Possible Unprecedented Third Party Debate
Submitted by Will-Ebert on Tue, 09/09/2008 - 13:18
Will Dr. Paul be announcing a Unity Party or will we soon be seeing a massive unprecedented debate between third parties sponsored by the Campaign for Liberty? I believe the evidence points to the latter and we will soon be seeing a unified effort to get all third party messages out in an effort to break the two party system.
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Don't let the AP make you think that Ron gave them everything...
Do you REALLY think Ron is going to give to the elitist controled AP exactly what he is going to be announcing tomorrow???
Come on you guys put your thinking caps on.....
This here might be PART of it...but nowhere near the whole deal
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Paul would
recommend to vote for third party candidateS, but not officially endorse them, though he may endorse their ideas.
A debate within third parties are not going to be of much help, their contrast is more with the two major parties.
Ron's press release stated that he was going to speak on...
HIS intentions, NOT what we should do....keep that in mind folks
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Ron Paul is not big on Boycotts and Lawsuits, but what if
What if they are going to announce a rally next door to the next debate put on by the Commission for Presidential Debates?
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"3rd party" debates
I watched a few debates featuring only 3rd parties in 2000 & 2004. They were not billed as third party debates as such, but the Repocrats always refuse to attend anything including any other candidates. Empty podiums for those guys. I was shocked in 2000 that Buchanan and Nader even refused to debate Harry Browne, Howard Phillips and John Hagelin.
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Buchanan and Nader both thought that debating lesser known candidates would be admitting that they are also unknown. They also would have gotten schooled by Browne and Phillips.
Given that Phillips and Buchanan are personal friends
I doubt Pat would have been owned by Howard. They are both very sharp, very smart, and well-educated people.
That said, I like both of these men very much. They have long been men that I have been pleased to have worked for.
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2004 on C-SPAN online
It was titled "Road to the White House: Third Party Cadidates Debate"
"2004 presidential candidates from 3rd parties met on the campus of Cornell University in Ithaca, New York for a 90 minute debate. Government Professor Theodore Lowi of Cornell moderated the event. Participants include Michael Badnarik, Libertarian Party; Michael Peroutka, Constitution Party; David Cobb Green Party; Walt Brown, Socialist Party."
http://www.c-span.org/search.aspx?For=third+party+debates
Buchanan and Nader refused to debate in 2000 because they thought it would make them look like fringe candidates. But on principle they should have participated.
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My guess is they are going to
call McCain and Obama to an ALL candidates debate.
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hmmm
I just don't see them attending something like that.
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Debates not "Unprecedented"
I predict a Fusion Alliance, a sort of Partisan Detente and a divvying up of the Electoral College for a common Paulian purpose.
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I like your thoughts on this
I like your thoughts on this....... keep thinking professor!
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I hope its not a debate, between 3rd party candidates.
The sheeple would not watch it. The sheeple would watch if we had candidates debating with Obama and McCain.
I hope for Ron Paul 3rd party run, or Ron Paul endorsement on a candidate.
I hope Ron doesn't endorse all 3rd party candidates, because it would dilute the protest vote.
Only my opinion.
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At least one poster said there already were 3rd party
debates (2000, 2004?). Can anyone verify this? If true, this removes 3rd party debates from the table of ideas. Also, is it possible that all 3rd party presidential nominees (pn's) attending tomorrow's announcement, are clueless? In other words, can the individual parties get together and decide on a unity ticket w/o consulting their pn's first nor tell them after the fact?
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1996, 2000, 2004
I watched them all on C-SPAN.
Here is the link to the C-SPAN video for 2004. I doubt they have the '96 or '00 debates digitized:
http://www.c-span.org/search.aspx?For=third+party+debates
Road to the White House: Third Party Cadidates Debate
2004 presidential candidates from 3rd parties met on the campus of Cornell University in Ithaca, New York for a 90 minute debate. Government Professor Theodore Lowi of Cornell moderated the event. Participants include Michael Badnarik, Libertarian Party; Michael Peroutka, Constitution Party; David Cobb Green Party; Walt Brown, Socialist Party.
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yes there were 3rd party debates
I forget the sponsor, but they appeared on Cspan and PBS. In one case they asked the candidates the same questions that were asked at the main debates.
It must be more than a debate
I'm thinking Class action law suit, including asking for an injunction against the debate commission.
All that is going to happen is
Ron Paul is going to say, here are the 3rd party candidates who all want a piece of the pie. Vote for one if you feel they represent you.
I guess it's the most major thing Ron Paul can do at the moment though since he will not run or endorse.
We're still stuck at "Grassroots needs to save America" right now.
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Getting into the debates is NOT essential.
Why put yourself at the mercy of the MSM slime? All that is really needed is a collection of feeds from the major party debates over the last year, including the most current. Then, allow the third party candidates to answers the questions presented to McCain and Obama. Sure, you can invite the jerks from the MSM if you choose, but they are not really necessary. The key is to make certain third party debates are accessible to the vast majority of potential voters.
This is 2008, not 1960, nor even 2000. The MSM has lost its grip, we just haven't yet mastered using our alternatives.
Debates are nothing.
It isn't 1960 anymore and television has changed from that-thar-high-tech thang that it used to be.
Few educated people watch television nowadays, for anything other than the weather reports.
Meanwhile, even fewer uneducated people watch televised debates and C-SPAN. They're watching American Idol.
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There is very little at all
There is very little at all unprecedented about a third-party debate. It would go totally ignored, except perhaps on C-SPAN, which is what happens to other third-party debates.
C-SPAN has been HOSTING these debates for decades
Nothing unprecedented AT ALL about it.
And, you don't announce a debate by saying the announcement "will be one for the ages", like the email that went out last night.
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Good grief, people
I hope it is not a debate.
What is unprecedented about a third party debate. I've been watching them on C-SPAN for decades. Nothing new, and certainly nothing earth shattering about that.
Read this email sent out from Jesse Benton, and tell me honestly if this sounds like an invitation to the announcement of a debate:
"Because of the importance of the event, we have rented their ballroom, which will have room for about 200 supporters.
"This announcement promises to be one for the ages and have as deep impact on this and future elections. Your presence to cheer on Dr. Paul and add your energy and excitement to the day would be greatly appreciated."
Debates are not announced liked this.
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I do hope it's something
I do hope it's something more important than a debate.
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Nope
no unity party, Nader has already said no unity party and you have virtually no chance to build a unitary party between the CP, LP, GP and Nader Independent.
The common factor is foreign policy, and there may be some alliance. You can talk about a unity between most of the LP and CP or between the GP and Nader Independents perhaps, but the party leaders cannot decide on that, and much less Dr. Paul. I do not think the CfL should sponsor debates, do you have an idea how much it will cost? Probably millions... perhaps there will be a combined advertising, where all sides involved contribute (and not only Ron Paul supporters).
I think in this year the 4 main third parties can work together by not having more than one third party in a certain district and all the supporters of different third parties support the 3rd party candidate, so that you would have even Greens voting for a CP candidate and visa versa.
Preaching to the choir?
I may be incorrect about this but it seems like a debate between the 3rd party candidates will be just that, another debate that only the choir will hear and will already know all the details?
This does not merit the title of "Major Announcement"
Who will really care about what they have to say other then we the people who already know the truth?
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Except not all third parties are on the same page
The Greens, Libertarians and Constitutionalists all have radically different opinions when it comes to how government should work.
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agree
Getting into the debates is vital.
Otherwise the monopoly will not be broken.
I hope that at least Barr and Nader get in.
Baldwin sadly has almost zero media coverage.
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