Barr Has Lost My Vote
I don't post here that often, but I have consistently defended Bob Barr against unfair attacks against his genuineness, his personal and professional history, and his positions.
After snubbing Paul, Baldwin, Nader, McKinney, the CFL and the national press, however, the Libertarian candidate Bob Barr no longer deserves defending and no longer deserves my vote.
I support Chuck Baldwin as of this morning.
I encourage others to join me in doing so.
UPDATE: I have just joined my local Chuck Baldwin Meetup Group and look forward to getting active again.
UPDATE2: Just donated to the Baldwin campaign. This is serious, folks!
UPDATE3: Everyone should email or phone Bob Barr's press secretary and let him know how pissed we all are:
Andrew Davis
202-731-0002
andrewdavis@bobbarr2008.com
Barr was a little too zealous in downplaying Ron Paul's media
After his CIA experience, you would think he would have played smarter than that - oh, I forget, it doesn't matter what his experience is or how intelligent he is, if the GOP and McCain are pulling the strings.
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
barr never had my vote! am
barr never had my vote! am I just smarter then you earthling pieces of trash?? lol!!!!
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bob who?
Oh, that neocon. Yeah I vaguely remember him.
Yeah, he's that guy who
Yeah, he's that guy who screwed over Paul and all those other third-party candidates who put message before egos and showed up to support a common platform. And then went onto slam Paul and his supporters and grandstand in the press... you remember him.
Heh. definitely not getting my vote
It kinda comes down to the old saying of 'actions speak louder than words'.
His distant and recent past scream "I'm a raging dick."
Not Only That
But I revoked my membership In the LP... this party has been captured and is no different than the uniparty, and I can no longer be a part of it.
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Bob Barr? He's done!
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Lost my vote
I never really liked the guy either. Something about the guy creeps me out. His voting record also sucks, and I was amazed the LP chose him.
I have supported Libertarians in the past.
I voted for Harry Browne. Bob Barr, you are no Harry Browne.
Bob Barr will not be getting my vote.
Bob Barr is the best thing to ever happen to the Constitution Party.
R.I.P. Libertarian Party
LP cause of death: Stake through the heart inflicted by Bob Barr.
Bob Barr can........
go ahead and grab a shovel.........because he is done.
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Is anyone else Distressed??
Congrats to our Hero Ron Paul for throwing us a bone on the election. I can't wait to see the 4 way (maybe 3 way if Barr stays pissy) debate. It will be awesome!
While I'm so happy with the "vote 3rd party" message, I'm concerned that we, the 3rd party minority, will split our votes by 3 or 4 people, and the majority will only split by 2 people. That's so CLEARLY a losing strategy for this election, is it not?
I had no idea that Nader and McKinney were anti-Fed (though they don't specify what they support... which does worry me, as I am for private money...government run money is only slightly better than secret, monopoly, government sanctioned money). But given that stance, I would be fine if either of them beat out Baldwin... or Barr.
Can we get one of these 4 candidates to pledge to focus only on these 4 issues, and nothing else? Then pick just one of them to whom we can give all of our support, and give the other 3 cabinet positions?? Ron Paul will be our UN ambassador... or Treasury secretary... or supreme court appointee.... or Fed Chair!
I am reminded of James K Polk who came to office with his.. 4 or 5?... point plan. He said those would be his goals, he would achieve them in one term, then be done. He had no other projects. He was also considered a "dark horse."
I am staunchly pro-life, and I quiver to think of an Obama administration that would exacerbate the genocide of the pre-born, but I would vote for a pro-choicer if they promised to maintain the status quo. Might some pro-choicers pledge the same for a pro-life candidate who promised to maintain the status quo?
I fear that 3rd party turnout will be better than ever before this year, but that McBama will still win. Can we wait 4 more years to try this again? Will such voices still be tolerated and legal when McBama wins? Will we ever have the same momentum in the future that we have now? If RP asked you to vote for McKinney, or Nader.... or Baldwin or Barr, for that matter.... would you do it? Is Ron Paul lacking the drive to buck the system in a way that only he could?
He never had my vote either.
Given his past, I always felt uneasy with him.
Now I'm sure he is a GOP diversion.
But now that Ron Paul is endorsing us to vote third party, and Bob Barr has exposed himself, it makes the decision fairly easy for me;
Constitution Party!
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
he never
EVER had mine, for the record.
Can't Vote Baldwin...
As I'm an Atheistic Buddhist. I wish the CP would drop the Judeo-Christian hogwash in their platform so I could vote for them, but such is life, I guess :-/. Barr really was a poor choice for the LP though. I'm not sure what I'll do now.
You've got more important problems
than figuring out who to vote for, man. How bout saving your eternal soul?
The christian thing bothers
The christian thing bothers me, too, so I will not join the CP, but I will still vote for Baldwin, as he is more in tune with my philosophies than any other. HOWEVER, since they ALL agreed on these top 4 issues, which are ones that most concern us these days, I would proudly cast a vote for any of these three, if Baldwin was not on my ballot. They ALL know what is best to keep our freedom, and they are ALL non CFL pro freedom choices. I am not afraid of any of them.
I'm An Artist....
but please watch this video - all the way to the end....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkZB8SlPnTE
peace!
Definitely makes me rethink Baldwin...
But I still worry about the planks on the party platform. Do you know if the CP is committed to the whole "natural marriage" thing and abortion thing on a national or state level? Because one of the big selling points for me about Ron Paul was that he could be in office fighting the good fight against the oligarchs, and not interfere with Vermont keeping abortion and civil unions legal because of his respect for state's rights. How does the CP stand?
That's a good video. The
That's a good video.
The only problem I have is there are religous beliefs within the Constitution Party platform.
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
It Is Great
for helping calm the theocrat label....
guess we need to remember too - that we are not joining a political
party - we are wanting to support and vote for an individual with the
message that resonates within us....
remember, Ron Paul ran in an ugly party - but I totally supported him
and voted for him and still support him!
But the stuff that Republican Party says (the neo-con one) isn't anything
to get excited about - it has a whole lot of bad in it.
but I wasn't voting for RP because of his party afiliation - it was strictly
based on his Freedom Message ... and so too - now I support Baldwin
to continue the Freedom Message .... regardless his faith or party affiliation.
peace!
Point well taken.
Point well taken.
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I agree, the Constitution
I agree, the Constitution Party should drop the idea of mixing church and state, even if that is how the Constitution was formed.
I would also support them much more if they did that.
But, out of the endorsements Ron Paul made, I have to say Chuck Baldwin is the best, so I will vote for him in support of Ron Paul.
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
I'm a deist. My advice to
I'm a deist.
My advice to you: Put the Constitution first. Baldwin does.
Baldwin puts the Constitution before his Bible?
I doubt it seriously.
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Baldwin seems to follow Ron Paul's example
I think the Bible actually says it best " Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's "
Baldwin is a wise enough man to recognize that God doesn't want anyone converted at the barrel of a gun. He can honor and worship his God according to the Bible and he can serve his country best by upholding the Constitution.
Right
Good point.
Ron Paul does a good job of not mixing church and state, in fact the Constitution forbids it, Baldwin and the Constitution Party should follow Ron Paul's example and follow the Constitution a little closer.
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
Help a Dummy like me out here...
Where in the constitution are these word written?... "mixing church and state, in fact the Constitution forbids it, " feel free to copy and paste from it..
I did see something about promoting a religion but have not run across what you posted...
confused and need clarification, .
Lots of places
See Danbury Letter, Everson, Reynolds, and so on. IT IS SETTLED LAW.
And this topic has been bandied about on here in the past.
No need to revisit the past just because someone doesn't know how to research.