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UPDATE 9/20 ~~We need a King!~~

UPDATE: Well how do these words sound today, after our 'king' and his court have given his minions unlimited authority to heap trillions of dollars of debt onto the next 5 generations of serfs in the kingdom.

King George IV is about to end his reign of power....hopefully.

See if this fits...

Nevertheless the people refused to obey the voice of Samuel; and they said, Nay; but we will have a king over us; That we also may be like all the nations; and that our king may judge us, and go out before us, and fight our battles. And Samuel heard all the words of the people, and he rehearsed them in the ears of the LORD. And the LORD said to Samuel, Hearken unto their voice, and make them a king. And Samuel said unto the men of Israel, Go ye every man unto his city.

The people of Israel wanted a King who would judge, or rule, them, a king who would go out before them, and a king who would fight their battles. But what was it that Israel had at this point?

To answer that question, we are going to have a look at chapter 7. Starting at verse 3:

And Samuel spake unto all the house of Israel, saying, If ye do return unto the LORD with all your hearts, then put away the strange gods and Ashtaroth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astaroth from among you, and prepare your hearts unto the LORD, and serve him only: and he will deliver you out of the hand of the Philistines.

The children of Israel responded with repentance. They returned to the LORD. Verse 6:

And they gathered together to Mizpeh, and drew water, and poured it out before the LORD, and fasted on that day, and said there, We have sinned against the LORD. And Samuel judged the children of Israel in Mizpeh.

What happened next? Well, the people had returned to the LORD, so he delivered them out of the hands of the Philistines. Verse 10:

And as Samuel was offering up the burnt offering, the Philistines drew near to battle against Israel: but the LORD thundered with a great thunder on that day upon the Philistines, and discomfited them; and they were smitten before Israel.

The LORD thundered with a great thunder. The LORD himself delivered Israel. On this occasion he didn't use men. He used used the forces of nature. God delivered Israel out of the hands of the Philistines. God fought their battle for them. All Israel had to do was mop up afterwards.

What was it that the people ask for in the next chapter? A king who will fight their battles. But what did they already have? A God who would, and did, fight their battles. "Put not your trust in the princes nor in the son of man...Happy is he that hath the God of Jacob for his help, whose hope is in the LORD his God."Psalm 146:3,5 Israel had the God of Jacob for their help, yet they wanted to put their trust in princes and the son of man instead.

Remember when Israel was in the wilderness, and they got fed up with the mannah? Guided by a pillar of cloud and a pillar of fire, their clothes did not wear out, and their food miraculously appeared for them every morning. Yet they still weren't satisfied. They wanted something more.

The same thing is happening here. They have got God on their side. But they want more. Actually they want less but they want what they think is more. Instead of God fighting their battles, they want a king to fight their battles.

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Thanks, DWB and healthnut4freedom

Back on September 10th (below), healthnut4freedom said: "Are you trusting in God or man?"

And I was just struck with something for the first time. Why did I not see this before?? Like, back before the primaries?!?! Sure would have come in handy back then.

How many of my Christian friends have said, "Well, I may not really like McCain, but we have to vote for him, or else we'll get Obama"?

Rather than sticking with principle, and trusting that keeping principles is sufficient, Christian voters believe that they have to compromise on principles and vote for someone they don't really want, because there's "no way" they'd be saved (politically speaking) otherwise.

Voting for a third party candidate is a wasted vote, they say.

Guess they never heard that David and Goliath story in Sunday School. They are putting their trust in man, not God. Instead of remaining true and acting with faith, they feel the need to take matters into their own hands and try to control the election, NOT by choosing the right man, but by voting against someone they don't want; and the only way to do that, in their mind, is with the "firepower" of a brand name GOP contestant.

There were a lot of people who said they would have voted for RP, but, you know, that whole longshot thing just didn't shore them up enough to pull the lever for Dr. Paul. O, ye of little faith.

Your opinions are yours, and that's fine with me; my opinion is that God has particularly blessed RP with gifts to lead our nation out of its horrid mess and into a promised land of sorts. We had an opportunity to put our votes where our faith is, and we proved ourselves to be just like Israel wanting a king, telling God we know how to handle things better than He does. We tell him want we want, and...He lets us have it. And how.

Thanks, healthnut -- I can at least spread this message now to my Christian friends.

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Very Best Post Yet!

Thanks Daddy!

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

The credit goes not to me...glad you are blessed and can hear it

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wow, that wasn't what I expected

But, good post!

IMO the Ashtaroth of today isn't Barr, Obama, or even RP... it's the cult of personality around the office of the presidency.

I'll have more to say about that over time. :-)

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Got YOU To open it.......Now...Is it still stupid?.

"Sorry, Charlie. StarKist doesn't want tunas with good taste - StarKist wants tunas that taste good." ...

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That's what I tell

my Christian friends. Are you trusting in God or man? When you vote for the lesser of evils you are still voting for evil. So you are trusting in man so you won't get taxed more or so you won't get into more wars. Either way, it is in man and not in God. I, for one, will trust in God but I have definitely been thrown a curve today.

Healthnut4freedom

"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6

Healthnut4freedom

The lip of truth shall be established forever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment...Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are His delight. Prov 12:19,22

God wasn't surprised...

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not a curve bro

its all part of the plan.

There's an old saying,

JM
God helps those who helps themselves. Well I think it is time for us to help ourselves. I don't see any way to get a foot in the door of our present political system. Our gov. has declared war on the terrorists, but we the people have suffered also. Not in lives so much but in our basic rights and freedoms. I think it is time we have our own election. An honest election by the people. If our present political system, which is totally corrupt, doesn't want to govern by the constitution, then I think it is time we had an honest constitutional election of our own. One for the people, if you will. So if we help ourselves to a constitutional election, it very well could be that God would help us.

JM

"Trust no future, however pleasant!

Let the dead past bury its dead! Act, - act in the living Present! Heart within and God overhead."

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Rom 1:16-32

16 The Just Live by Faith

For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek. 17 For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, "The just shall live by faith."

18 God's Wrath on Unrighteousness

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man — and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.
24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; 32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.

While thrid party candidates talked about 4 key issues today the two main parties fought over which one of the pigs has lipstick on. How is that for a debase mind.

If America grabbed a hold of God...not religion...WOW!

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That is what set me

free!. Our church's (religious orders) are a heavy burden to bare, just as our government and taxes are...when "man-made" interferes with God-made...it always gets messed up. God=fre-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-dom..

WHAT is THIS????? LOLOLOLOL

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Surprise!

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Thank-you for "reigning us in"

Let's take a moment of silent prayer and ask our "KING" to lead us.

PyraBang for Liberty

PyraBang for Liberty

Ron Paul,

has asked us to get debate access for the 4 candidates that he endorsed.

No need to pray.

We must start working towards Dr. Paul's wishes for the betterment of America!

Exactly! Damn it people listen to the interview

"Evil flourishes when good men do nothing."
—Edmund Burke

Oh sorry for talking about our power source....

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Power Source

I like that..and you are quick witted.

I

will begin to pray for this.:)

Always love your posts

I do get tired of those who want Ron to TELL US WHAT TO DO. Because he HAS told us what to do...... THINK, and ANALYZE within the context of freedom and the Constitution and make your decisions on that basis. I think it was BRILLIANT to get the candidates to sign on to the four major points of agreement. Those issue are a crucial starting point.... AND a starting point on which neither of the two MAJOR parties stand. But after the four points it is up to us to read and investigate and think and DECIDE. We are individuals who are supposed to be thinking, responsible adults. Opening up the election to more than the two major parties is a GREAT objective and fits with the message of LIBERTY. But the DECISION of who is the best is up to US.

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Viva La Revolucion!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmaTNf4YhEs

The news conference today was way bigger than,

us deciding who to vote for.

We are the remnant of 1.2 million Ron Paul voters.

The news conference today was about getting the 4 candidates who have agreed upon 4 key issues Debate Access.

That is what is was all about.

If we get debate access, we influence 40 to 50 million people.

That is what we should be doing!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nothing happens when you first pull the pin...but later...BOOM!

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Calm down...

The Daily Paul isn't sinking. Just give it some time, man. People just need to collect their thoughts, bounce opinions off one another, and come to their own principled conclusions after all the hearsay, confusion and hullabaloo have died down. This happens often when major announcements have just been made, and different people with varying opinions on the matter are scrambling to have their voice heard in the temporary maelstrom.

Weren't we all psychotic about Sarah Palin at one point? Common sense will kick in before long. :)

For liberty!! *gong*

For Liberty!! *GONG*