*Ron Explain Why We Should Support Socialist Candidates?

And Ron Paul is trying to steal/wreck it.

The more angry disappointed people he can gather, the more people will seek alternatives.

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The 4 competitors agreeing to split and focus their efforts across resources(voters) increases the probability of each competitor succeeding or scoring higher than either of the major party competitors. Doing this by draining away electoral votes from states with weak 3rd party support and accumulating a winning number of electoral votes in states where 3rd parties are more viable. That's what I get from Dr. Paul's plan.

he wants to help break up the two party system and take away as many votes as possible from BOTH establisment candidates.
And sorry, it's not only pure speculation but even quite slanderous to say there is a secret deal between the GOP and Ron Paul to help McCain that way.

Dr. Paul cured my apathy

I have been reading posts all day and I am confussed. I don't want to vote for anyone other than Ron Paul now does it waste my vote if I write his name in or like I have been told by others it will work towards giving more votes to mclame or obamer? I have never been involved in this and I am still trying to understand it all. Thanks everyone for all your info.

if you weren't thinking!

This is the point that Ron Paul was trying to make...
It doesn't matter what party you're in, but if you were thinking of voting for Obama because you find him LESS evil than McCain...why waste your vote on LESS EVIL when you could vote for a 3rd Party candidate that represents you better? (Nader or McKinney)
HOWEVER...if you were thinking of voting for McCain because you find him LESS evil than Obama...why waste your vote on LESS EVIL when you could vote for a 3rd Party candidate that represents you better? (Baldwin or Barr)

AND...when the dust settles...IF Obama or McCain still wins..America would see that the winner only got some ridiculous percentage (like 16%) of American citizens who REALLY supported everything that candidate said. At which time even those of us that are still asleep would be face to face with the glaring truth of how broken our system is that a President can be elected when they only get 16% of the vote. THAT would shatter the hold the two parties have on us and wake everyone up to the fact that even LESS evil is still evil and in 2012 we will DEMAND better candidates from ALL parties!

THAT is what you should have walked away with....and if you didn't atleast get that (you may have picked up more subtle things) then you should probably watch it again!

to vote for Nader, NOT Obama. That's the point. Showing the current Obama supporters that there is a viable and better alternative. He isn't going to get them to change their liberal views but if they agree on these four critical things, then they will not vote for one of the lesser of two evils.

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"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6

in the first place.....................after that we can make the rules
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where he had an opportunity to explain what he was trying to do, he said his reasoning was this: according to his calculations only about 16% of the votes actually goes toward the candidate that wins. About 60% of the population for one reason or another doesn't vote or votes 3rd party. GET IT? 60% of the votes...now if according to paul4won those 60% of the votes of any of the third parties, their electors must submit those names to be voted on:

AMENDMENT XII

Passed by Congress December 9, 1803. Ratified June 15, 1804.

Note: A portion of Article II, section 1 of the Constitution was superseded by the 12th amendment.

The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate; -- the President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted; -- The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. [And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President. --]* The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

Dr. Paul is simply attempting to break the strangle hold the two parties have on the political arena in this country and is doing it by speaking to the widest audience possible; he is asking people to ask questions, to start thinking differently.

While I know there are those who are upset by this move, upset by McKinney's presence or Nader's presence, let's face it, the true powerful enemies are not to be found in the Green Party or in Nader's ranks, but in the Entrenchment Republican and Democratic Party Machines. We are faced with Leftist Socialist on the Democratic side and National Socialist on the Republican side, the real enemies are within these two party machines.

“Men do not willingly read unpalatable truths of themselves. The people like those best who fool them most by pandering to their vices and flattering their foibles”—Admiral Raphael Semmes.

Besides vote principle over party. He's saying if you believe in a candidate then vote for them. Don't vote cause you're in a party or you don't think your guy is going to win.

The hosts try to steer the conversation and make Dr. Paul look like a fool. They aren't fooling anyone.

By the way, aren't you canadian-so you won't vote anyway?

What he says is that people should support the 3rd Party candidates of their choices.
Not everybody agrees on which candidate, but they can all vote against the entrenched status-quo.

That's all there is.
You can't read any more than that into it.
It's a simple concept.
Those are the ideas that can get across.

BULLSHIT.

He's not planning on endorsing Nader or McKinney and is not voting for them either.

He merely brought together the 3rd party candidates because he knows they're better than the 2 status quo candidates who are the same on the issues. He urged people to consider these other candidates and to pick the one we most identified with.

He has not endorsed anyone and he's not choosing for you, and he's CERTAINLY NOT endorsing Obama or McCain.

you, legalizeliberty. You have the gall to slam Ron Paul this way....this absolute BS you posted above, to impugn his motives....and on a Ron Paul site, to boot....
Bob Barr would be the type of person to pull that type of stunt, not Ron Paul....and need I remind you that true American Patriot, Kokesh, publicly and to Barr's face, renounced this day his support of Barr!!!! I suppose Kokesh had the motive of giving McCain a win, too, or do you forget that he was flashing signs against McCain at the RNC??!!

knows that Nader and McKinney will take Dems votes
and Baldwin and some others will take Reps

anyway - who cares who gets them taken away -

Ron wants we the people to rise up and think and show them
that we don't cave into their 2 party crap - if those candidates don't
care about the Major Issues - we care about.

vote for who you believe can change this mess we are in!

NON Interventionism!