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Third Party Voter Base

Hi Everyone,

I am new to posting on this site. My question is this: Realistically, if everyone who is associated with any third party votes third party, how many votes would that be and how will that affect the Reps/Dem party?



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If everyone doing time for

If everyone doing time for non-violent drug use and crimes would get their friends and relative's to vote 3rd party, you would have the largest voting block in the history of the States.

And the winner of the 'No-Prize' is.....find out at node 98787

And the winner of the 'No-Prize' is.....

No more than several hundred thousand if you only count

those actually registered as an alternative party voter. Many states do not allow such registrations, so if one goes by votes garnered on average, at most, you are looking at a million or so. If you add in people who are registered with and normally vote with the two major parties, then its a whole new ball game as Perot got over 19% in 1992. That was about 19 million voters for him in that race if I recall correctly. The same number today would be closer to 15% or a bit lower as there are more voters who have participated in recent elections. (allegedly - I'm sure there was a bit of ballot stuffing at the central tabulators)

There are not enough third party regular voters to do much if any damage. You have to go after independents and disgruntled members of the other two parties to win.

there was only 1% in the last election

that's not enough to do anything. forget parties. just work on the issues. if you run for office, forget about the third parties unless you know for a fact you can win on the ticket, or unless you feel you can have a big enough effect on the other candidates, which nine 99 times out of 100 means nothing.

Ross Perot got 19.3%

before this economic collapse.

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What happened to the Perot Voters?

I've often wondered what happened to that 19.2% of the voters who voted for Perot in 92. He even got about 10% I believe the next time he ran.
That said, the bulk of new voter registrants are going for the Independent
category. As an example, 19% of newly registered voters in Florida are independents. You people(in the Perot tradition ; )) might also want to check out the group below---

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Third_Parties_Coalition --progressively oriented

Extremism in the pursuit of liberty is no vice and moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.

Barry Goldwater

Extremism in the pursuit of liberty is no vice and moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.

Barry Goldwater

Like Ron Paul said

we have the majority against the two parties.
If we could only get the third parties to unite we would win!

Forget about 3rd parties

The results for the 2008 elections indicated that only about 1% voted for 3rd party candidates. You can't hope to win at the national or even state levels(most states) with that kind of voting. Sadly, most are still buying into the 2 party system.

Extremism in the pursuit of liberty is no vice and moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.

Barry Goldwater

Extremism in the pursuit of liberty is no vice and moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.

Barry Goldwater

Debatable.

Third Parties represent a rocky, difficult path to victory, but so does attempting to "take over" in the two prevailing parties.

In fact if you want to look at that depressing 1% presidential vote tally for the Third Parties again, I must point out that it was 1% MORE than we achieved in the Republican Party.

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Kevin it was way above 1%

take a look at the stats and those non voters.

(Better) to be confused in the search for truth than fully confident and sound asleep in a dream of lies. ~ Michael Nystrom
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Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Hi,

I don't know if actual numbers can be applied here, but I've heard the figure of 20% commonly used to describe potential 3rd Party numbers as a percentage of total votes..

However, this year is a "wild card" because there is alot of dissatisfaction with the mainstream candidates. So, there is no telling how many might defect to a 3rd Party because of that.

Additionally, if numbers can become in that 20% neighborhood, or more, it can really affect the claims of "mandate from the people' for the mainstream candidate that eventually wins(presuming one does).

Regarding the effects on the mainstream parties, it could easily be a fairly even split. There is alot of dissatisfaction on both sides of the aisle this year.

Ron Paul's Appeal

Ron Paul's appeal today at the press conference was for voters who normally vote for what the consider to be "the lesser of two evils" to instead vote for a third party that reflects their vision for America. Democrats would vote for McKinney or Nader, and Republicans would vote for Baldwin, Barr or, for a lucky few in a couple of states, Paul.

He wasn't just talking to third party people.

base vote

VOTE against issues & programs not against people or party, at this point. TO , FREE up the wallet is FREEDOM.
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my vote is for Frank Moore!

He's an independent candidate running out of Berkeley. He's got write-in status in 24 states including California, NY, Pennsylvania, Illinois.... Amazing platform!!! I'm voting for him not because of any voting/political agenda, just because I think he's got the best ideas!

www.frankmooreforpresident08.com

Welcome

It really doesn't matter if we vote 3rd party and these votes take away from the two main candidates. Because the 2 leading candidates offer us more of the same. In fact, they are all but the SAME. They are puppets. Both parties promise us outrageous taxes and more spending. One just a tiny bit less. Meanwhile our children and grandchildren will pay the price of this charade.

In my opinion...

At this point right now either McCain or Obama are going to win. However, I think what Ron Paul is trying to do is begin the REVOLUTION of opening access to ALL candidates and break the stranglehold that the "evil ones" now have on the elections (only acting like two people are running). So this is a START. If it gains enough momentum it could show the people of the country that there is another way! A third party candidate may not WIN, but we will have begun another movement to gain FREEDOM in our elections. So even if McCain or Obama still win......we are no worse off than now... but we have sent a message and started a movement. WAKING THE PEOPLE UP TO THEIR POWER.

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Yes, Yes

I agree, vote third party send a message. Peace

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check out Frank Moore!

Frank Moore is an independent running out of Berkeley. He's qualified to be written in on the ballot in 24 states including California, NY, Pennsylvania and Illinois. Check out his awsome platform at
www.frankmooreforpresident08.com