What's lost in this Paul/Barr cat fightSubmitted by richiep on Thu, 09/11/2008 - 12:04
Wow, what a difference a day makes. One press conference showing the bad political skills of BOTH Ron Paul and Bob Barr, and look what happens to this place.
Lets look at this objectively. To me, most people on this site sound like fools they way you have been attacking Bob Barr all along. You sound EXACTLY the same as the masses that are defending McSame over Obamba, or the other side of the coin, the ones who want Obomba over McSame. To all of us, we look at them and laugh saying rightfully so, they are both the same! Well the truth is, they could look at us and say the same about Barr and Paul. They are far more similar than different and its not just of late, Barr has always been know to be good on privacy issues, leaving aside his bad political move on the PATRIOT Act, which he originally opposed but voted for it to help weaken it.
Both of these men have made some bad political moves. Lets look at some of Pauls' first. The New Hampshire Primary. Do I really even need to say anything about it? I was up there - I took time off from my life to help him win that - and I saw a mess of an operation up there. I can remember this and other boards and email lists being filled back then with all the, "Lew Moore is a traitor" talk and whatnot. Paul's campaign made a severe and uncorrectable political decision to not blast that state with money that the campaign had! He made other blunders too, but none was bigger than his outright refusal to say FU to the Repugnats and their hopelessly corrupt party. As Barr pointed out yesterday, Paul himself said that there is no hope to that party in 1987. Paul did so poorly in 1988 that he changed his mind on that and went back to the Repungants. To most political people, he was seen as invisible in Congress, which must be true as how many of you never heard of him until one or two years ago?
Paul could have and should have done this year what he was unable to do in 1988, start a third party run with a head start. Not a good head start, but an unbelievably good head start!
Now his latest bad political move, trying to have it both ways. He wants to stay with the Repugnants, but want people to say FU to them. To do that he has to align with anti-liberty candidates so he promotes the idea of opening up the process. I personally think this is a good idea in theory, but it doesn't work when he is staying with the Rs. To be effective it would have to have been delivered with a speech that he's going Independent in Congress - he won't do that. I 100% believe he's be more effective in Congress that way and get more TV time because of it to promote the ideas that matter.
Now as for Barr, his move yesterday was a calculated one but not very well though out. He should have shown up as he should have know that there are the Baldwin people out there looking to take him out more then the McSame staff. The only way they know how to promote Baldwin is to attack Barr, instead of going after McSame like Barr is. The talk on this site alone on how Barr's a neo-con plant... its just so laughable. Yeah well tell that to us in PA when you see how we could loose our statewide candidates as the Repugnants are suing to have Barr taken off the ballot.
Now I see the latest email coming from people on both sides on this cat fight. Barr's people are not playing this out in smart way at all. They are acting like the Paul people did after the New Hampshire failure. I'm past the point of even caring who is right or wrong in this latest spat.
Maybe its just impossible to run a bigger nationwide campaign with decent campaign people. As for me, I'm turned off to both campaigns from this. I'm going to try again and ask for my 3k of donation back to Paul's campaign (made between my wife and me), as they have donated 25k to the repugnants and I want no part of that. (to date no one from his campaign has called me back) As for Barr, I'll vote for him as he is a good choice, as I would still for Paul if he were on the ballot.
Bottom line to both of them, its their political moves that are bad, not their political beliefs.