LP Co-Founder: "The Barr Campaign Is Over"
by David F. Nolan
(Libertarian)
Thursday, September 11, 2008
As of yesterday afternoon, Bob Barr's Presidential campaign is effectively over. There were signs of serious trouble even before yesterday, but his "no-show" at Ron Paul's Campaign for Liberty news conference -- followed by an insulting suggestion that Ron should join Barr on the LP ticket in the VP slot -- demonstrated just how out-of-touch the Barr campaign is, and how poor Barr's vote total is likely to be.
In earlier articles here on nolanchart.com I tried to give Barr every benefit of the doubt. I observed that in theory he should be one of the Libertarian Party's stronger Presidential candidates. I opined that while his pronouncements on the campaign trail were hardly hard-core libertarian, they were mostly to-the-point and well stated. I did not support him for the nomination, but I was more or less comfortable supporting him once he became the LP nominee.
There has been evidence all along that the Barr '08 campaign has been mismanaged. Ballot access drives were begun late, and conducted erratically. As of today, it appears that Barr's name will be on the ballot in 46 or 47 states. (Harry Browne appeared on 50 ballots in 1996 and 49 in 2000. Michael Badnarik made it onto 48 in 2004.) Barr has failed to achieve ballot status in West Virginia, due entirely to Shane Cory's ineptitude, and there are lawsuits pending in five states (LA, MA, ME, OK and PA) to determine whether Barr will be on the ballot.
Fundraising has also been a flop. As I write this, the fundraising "meter" on the Barr '08 website shows the total raised by the campaign at $881,500 -- about $700,000 since the Denver nominating convention. That works out to about $6,400 a day or $200,000/month. In the days leading up to the nomination, Barr's people were throwing around numbers like $20 million. The reality is likely to be barely more than $1 million.
But all that would be beside the point if Bob Barr were campaigning proudly as a Libertarian and taking advantage of every opportunity to reach out to like-minded Americans.
Unfortunately, he's not. Following advice from his campaign manager, Russ Verney, Barr has avoided use of the "L" word wherever possible. There's a big empty space in the banner at the top of the Barr '08 website, where the word LIBERTARIAN could (and should) appear. It doesn't, despite several suggestions that this be remedied. Barr's campaign literature, signs and bumper stickers do not include the "L" word either. And a press release issued by the campaign earlier this week describes Barr as a "Former Congressman" with no mention of the Libertarian Party.
Clearly, Barr is not running as a Libertarian; he's running as an independent candidate: "Former Congressman Bob Barr." Which may be just as well, given the way he's been behaving.
Yesterday, Congressman Ron Paul held a news conference to denounce the two-party duopoly. He invited four alternative candidates -- Chuck Baldwin, Bob Barr, Cynthia McKinney and Ralph Nader -- to participate. Baldwin, McKinney and Nader showed up; Barr did not. Instead, he held a separate follow-up conference of his own at which he tooted his own horn and "invited" Ron Paul to be his running mate. This was insanely stupid, for several reasons. First, because Barr has no authority to unilaterally change running-mates. Second, because it's a insult to Ron Paul, who is far better known and more widely admired. (Reportedly, Ron Paul and his top people are furious.) And third, because even if Ron Paul accepted the invitation and the Libertarian National Committee approved the substitution, it is too late to make a substitution on most states' ballots.
For a description of what happened at the Campaign for Liberty press conference, see this Washington Post article.
Why has the Barr campaign has gone so badly awry? The simple answer is that the two men running it -- Russ Verney and Shane Cory -- are not Libertarians, do not understand what motivates Libertarian activists, and have no interest in building the LP. Verney is a gun-for-hire of no discernible ideology. Cory is a Republican who left his former job at LP headquarters in disgrace, after abusing his authority prior to the Denver convention. (Just today, Verney posted a Campaign Update on the Barr '08 website, praising George W. Bush for his "leadership" during the days following the 9/11 attacks seven years ago. Any true Libertarian would have instead pointed out that Bush has USED the 9/11 attacks as an excuse to erode our civil liberties!)
With these two running the campaign it will continue to embarrass Libertarians and waste our resources. Bob Barr will never qualify for inclusion in the phony "Presidential debates." He will not get the 5% of the vote that would qualify the LP for future matching funds -- which it should not accept in any case. Indeed, at this point it seems likely that Barr will not get even 1% of the popular vote. (Bettors on intrade.com are currently betting 2:1 against Barr receiving 1%.)
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It would be nice to see the
It would be nice to see the Libertarians purge this character from the ticket. Not to mention in the party's best interest.
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Great looks like I might be throwing a vote
away and not voting this round at all. I can't vote for the CP.
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Bump for
Bump for Chuck
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Fair tax support was definitely evidence
Barr's support for the Fair tax was definitely evidence of flawed thinking and deception. All(?) of us here know that the fair tax is basically a scheme that wouldn't work. Penalize people even more for spending their money. He talks about some of the issues pretty well, but I don't trust him. He either doesn't really understand how freedom works or he is just trying to get power.
Dr. Paul said he would vote for the Fair Tax too.
They have the same position on taxes.
How about a couple sources:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI5lC4Z_T80
http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2006/tst101606.htm
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KOOL.
he he.
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Actually, Ron Paul only
Actually, Ron Paul only stated that the Fair Tax would be better than our current system - but not optimal.
Dr. Paul has also stated that in regards to the Fair Tax, he's concerned that the government might implement the Fair Tax increases but then never get around to getting rid of the other taxes it was meant to replace - and we would end up with both.
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Of Course
Anybody who was actually familiar with Ron Paul remembers his stock phrase during the campaign -- "Repeal the income tax, and replace it with NOTHING."
Just what we need, the federal government tracking EVERY single transaction we make.
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good riddance
How many states
Is Chuck Baldwin on the ballot for president?
Does anyone have the number and which ones?
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Barred
Barred from the Revolution! weeeeeeeeee!
Bye Barr!
Bye Barr!
-- Chuck Baldwin is closest to RP's message. --
To quote this article: "Why
To quote this article: "Why has the Barr campaign has gone so badly awry?" Because liberty minded people aren't idiots. Barr was a neocon stooge from the start and has officially 'jumped the shark'. He was never trusted here, nor should he have been. I'm proud of the patriots here who stood up and spoke out against his "candidacy." How could we EVER support a presidential candidate who voted for the 'patriot act'. Never.
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Truth is treason in an empire of lies.
Agreed
Neo-Con through and through!
No evidence has ever been presented that Barr is
a neocon after he converted to libertarianism and non-interventionism. No evidence from before that point either, if you use the correct definition of neoconservatism.
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There's no evidence Barr is
There's no evidence Barr is a neo-con, but his V.P is one.
Mr. Patriot Act is just a contemptible jerk who supports Bush, and shows no outward signs of libertarian sincerity.
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Read closer. He says "vote for Bob Barr in November."
"By all means, vote for Bob Barr in November. I plan to, and I urge every Libertarian to do likewise. Whatever vote Barr receives will be seen by most people as “the Libertarian vote” and we want that to be as high as possible. And if you want to campaign for Barr locally, then do so. Print up flyers, put up homemade campaign signs, etc."
He just thinks sending money won't be useful.
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"Just like Alex Jones will do; he'll try to put words in my mouth... You try to put words in my mouth too, just like Alex Jones does." - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2370864598223573012&...
What part of it's over do
What part of it's over do you not understand?
First, accept that the fact that the Barr '08 campaign is effectively over. Don't waste any time or money supporting a campaign that avoids the "L" word, has demonstrated its incompetence time and again, and goes out of its way to insult friends and allies.
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Evidently they are still
Evidently they are still paying Shill Checks this week.
When Barr drops out of the race and/or returns to the Republican Party, this character will disappear like a puff of smoke.
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It's not over. He's wrong.
Barr campaign will go on, and he will continue to make media appearences. And his polling will continue to rise.
Most people aren't so petty. The reason Barr didn't show up is because Dr. Paul's staff didn't give him the full details of the press conference. He didn't know he was going to be sharing the stage with socialists. I'm glad he bowed out. I would have done the same thing.
It's great that you're voting for Baldwin. I support that as well. Just don't vote for the socialists.
Avoiding the "L word" is good campaign strategy. Dr. Paul avoided calling himself a libertarian too in this campaign (small l libertarian) unless he was asked about it by reporter. Most Americans are turned off when they hear the word "libertarian."
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This is a Tempest in a Teapot
This is a tempest in a teapot. Lets all work for whatever candidate we think is best to promote liberty and quit arguing with each other who made a faux pas, hurt someone's feelings or misunderstood. There is an election in two months.
It's not a tempest at all,
It's not a tempest at all, it's Barr showing his arrogance and stupidity.
He is not a Libertarian, and anyone worthy of the name would not consider voting for him.
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There is no argument. Barr
There is no argument. Barr did what he did for personal gain and political expediency. He broke his word and commitment...end of story.
The only arguing going on here is with Daily Paulers and Barr paid staff/shills.
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