Bankers shocked by "The Mythical FDIC fund"
Bankers are apparently shocked (literally "SHOCKED" I tell you) to find out that the FDIC Insurance Fund is nothing more than an "accounting fiction"!
How did they finally "discover" this? Well, apparently it was recently (8/27/08) admitted in a document by Bill Isaac, the former FDIC chairman, in a TRUE piece of comedy {you HAVE to read it} which he entitled "The Mythical FDIC Fund" (see link to PDF below -- also linked in article.)
The money quote is right at the start of the article:
http://seekingalpha.com/article/95129-fdic-insurance-fund-it...
FDIC Insurance Fund - It Doesn't Actually Exist
posted on September 12, 2008
by Vernon HillWhen FDIC head Shelia Bair says her agency might have to bolster the FDIC's insurance fund with Treasury borrowings to pay for the new spate of bank failures, a lot of us, this 40-year banking veteran included, assumed there's an actual FDIC fund in need of bolstering.
We were wrong. As a former FDIC chairman, Bill Isaac, points out here, the FDIC Insurance Fund is an accounting fiction. It takes in premiums from banks, then turns those premiums over to the Treasury, which adds the money to the government's general coffers for "spending . . . on missiles, school lunches, water projects, and the like."
The insurance premiums aren't really premiums at all, therefore. They're a tax by another name.
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The rest is even funnier.
What this articles proves is what I have long known; most bankers (these days) don't know their head from their, well you know. Amazingly I had this figured out and FULLY explained to me back in the early 1980's when I worked as an Asst. Manager in a small bank branch (under the tutelage of a REAL banker, who explained the whole fiat scam to me {as well as a lot more on how to determine whether people were a good debt risk, additional knowledge today's bankers are also apparently completely ignorant of} ...he also explained quite clearly that the system would eventually collapse; and he was only wrong is his prediction of WHEN it would all collapse; Carl thought it would happen before the year 2000).
Basically today's "40 year veteran" bankers are the equivalent of Ma & Pa Kettle (who thought banks kept their money in that vault and watered it daily to somehow "magically" make it grow).
Hi-larious.
Read the document that has them in a tizzy.
The BEST part of *THAT* document:
When I [William M. Isaac] became Chairman of the FDIC in 1981, the FDIC's financial statement showed a balance at the U.S. Treasury of some $11 billion. I decided it would be a real treat to see all of that money, so I placed a call to Treasury Secretary Don Regan:
Isaac: Don, I'd like to come over to look at the money.
Regan: What money?
Isaac: You know . . . the $11 billion the FDIC has in the vault at Treasury.
Regan: Uh, well you see Bill, ah, that's a bit of a problem.
Isaac: I know you're busy. I don't need to do it right away.
Regan: Well . . . it's not a question of timing . . . I don't know quite how to put this, but we don't have the money.
Isaac: Right . . . ha ha.
Regan: No, really. The banks have been paying money to the FDIC, the FDIC has been turning the money over to the Treasury, and the Treasury has been spending it on missiles, school lunches, water projects, and the like. The money's gone.
What REALLY is hilarious is that somehow these bankers think that a vault full of FRN's (aka "dollars" [sic]) would somehow be different than any other form of "IOU" that the government would put there. Proof positive that nearly all bankers are as ignorant as the rest of the public, and...
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Ya know..this is not a fund,
Ya know..this is not a fund, exactly. It is sold as insurance, I believe. IF so, then the insurance commissioners should have a field day with this one. They MUST account for where their insured's money goes, and they must have money to pay claims. This could possibly unravel BIG time if people went for it..
WRellim
Thanks for the info! Do you know anyone that could post this info about the FDIC on you-tube? we could then email all our friends and all we know to check it out on you tube,sence most people wont take the time to read about this Very important info. This would surely Wake Up a lot of people! what do you think?
Not sure how you would turn it into a video...
I'm not sure how (script-wise) you would turn it into a video.
I mean it's about bankers finally "realizing" that the FDIC fund was "raided" years ago... how do you translate THAT into a video?
The only thing I can think of is doing the "interview, questions & revelations" type scenario, and I can't see how you would get any banker (even a local one) to sit down for that.
And it would basically have to be someone from the FDIC itself that was interviewed (ala the Aaron Russo style interviews of Federal Reserve people), as anyone "lesser" like a local banker is too easily dismissed by the viewers as just being confused or ignorant or misleading them.
I think the basic idea -- that the vast majority of people watch videos sooner than they read and understand text -- is definitely sound... but creating believable "education" or "revelation" types of videos is also a lot of work.
I guess I had thought (or perhaps mistakenly "hoped") that this type of thing was one of the purposes of the C4L organization.
WRellim
Thank you for your reply, I was just hoping the Idea for a video/interview could be done. I believe if the video was made, we could realy Wake People Up and at a much faster rate. I to hope that the C4L org will consider somthing such as this. campaignforliberty
Yes
I picked up a short 10 minute video at the Rally thanks the people at the JBS booth. It's called "Take Your Money Back!" and it's all about the amount of Federal taxes we pay and how it's time to end the income tax NOW!!!
If JBS can do it, I'm sure hoping that the C4L will put forth some of these kinds of efforts too.
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I call BS
Someone is working an angle here, I could not believe the Chairman of the FDIC would think there is a vault of FRN's just sitting around. Fiat currency is a ponzi scheme, he would know that in order to get his job. He is passing the buck.
Social Security had a fund once
now it's in the general fund. A pay-as-you-go mentality that has us screwed. Why would FDIC be any different? The US Gov't does not save $$ for anything.
Oh, I can believe it (not in the sense of literal FRN's) but...
...in the sense that they actually thought there was a "fund" with ASSETS of some type behind it.
They just never bothered to look into what those "assets" would be... they preferred to remain ignorant.
Bankers are just adept at playing a certain type of "3 card monty" -- for most it is simply a game that they were "trained" to play -- they never bothered to see what really underlies the game, but rather just try their best to "play" the hands they are dealt, and with the rules as they understand them.
Most of them are not if the "J.P. Morgan" typology -- instead they are simply run-of-the-mill people, and are caught up in the same game as everyone else (just wearing a slightly different hat).
Is there such a thing
as a safe place for cash? Or is it better to just not have cash.....
FDIC insured account will "guarantee" that your "dollars" get
...replaced with other "FRN's." (Though they might be "devalued" dollars).
That part is not a "fraud" per se.
But if what you are concerned about is preserving the "absolute" value (as far as that can be determined) then keeping large amounts in "dollars" (or any fiat currency) is probably not the best place.
Hence the fact that so many are investing in commodities (whether PM's or ETF's or etc).
And no, there is no truly "safe" place... which is the whole reason behind Ron Paul's indignation at the lack of a stable (solid) currency.
Basically everyone in the world is required to "place bets" (via your savings, your debts, and your wages & investments) in the grand gambling game of modern monetary manipulations -- whether they want to play "speculator" or not.
The vast majority of the population will end up with the short end of the stick.
Well
Well, I should be surprised, but i'm not. It's the same deal as Social Security.
What's next, now that they drop the pretenses?
All of a sudden the powers behind the powers are more or less publicly boasting that they have fooled everyone.
What's next when they drop the pretenses so willingly?
Oh, I don't think they're dropping any pretenses...
It's just that a small number of them (bankers) have just found out that one of the "pillars" they have relied upon (because of their own naivete) is not what they thought it was.
And only a subset of them will realize the true impact and think it all through.
For those few, the ground shifted underneath their feet (like a 5.0 on the Richter scale).
But I guarantee you that MOST people in the banking industry will NOT be aware of this, not until the pillar itself crumbles (and perhaps they will live in denial for as long as they can even after that happens).
Hence I posted it more as a source of (ironic & sad) entertainment than any true "revelation."
As for those who truly understand the fiat money system... this doesn't really change anything (it's just a confirmation of what we already knew).
But the "illusion" and "pretense" they present to the public will remain the same (its just that now a few more bankers will be aware that they are selling snake oil, whereas before they were "true believers").
and
The politicians haven't got a clue either about the monetary system, banking, budgeting and saving.
You'll know it's coming down when the fed can't find anyone or any country to sell its bonds to and they force grossly higher taxes on us to fund the deficits...
lalallaaaa Federal Reserve
lalallaaaa Federal Reserve Bailouts going to cripple the economy and send up into a hyperinflation hyper depression
this one will be called ... THE GREATER DEPRESSION
So the Government will have to borrow
to pay depositors....no problemo right?
IMF to audit US Books....rut row Scooby
http://business.theage.com.au/business/imf-finally-knocks-on...
Don't look for any "truth" from the IMF.
Besides, auditing the "books" will not show the truth about the "accounting fiction" -- as long as that fiction is accepted as a valid activity all they will verify with the audit is whether the "numbers" add up.
Prelude to receivership if so desired maybe?
What's the protocol on that kind of thing?
Doesn't this article make
Doesn't this article make you scratch your head and say, "who owns who?"
It should be blantantly obvious that since the IMF/World Bank was given the U.S. Treasury as it's sole checking account through the Bretton Woods Agreement, that it is the IMF who truly owns the U.S.
Who was it that said, "Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation and I care not who makes its laws?" Ahh, yes, Mayer Amschel Rothschild.
http://teamlaw.org/history.htm
Alas, The Emperor Wears No Clothes.....
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AND you thought Bankers
were ignorant.
You should see Lawyers, they have no CLUE also to what is really going on.
Hell I have only met 1 that could define PERSON as is used in Ballentines 3rd blacks law 6th ed or 26usc 7701(A)
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WoW!!! I can't believe I was
WoW!!! I can't believe I was JUST talking to this bank executive of 37 years about something similar just a few days ago! The "ruse" I now see is that they force the banks to ALL have this insurance--even local banks--so they can tie them up tightly with "federal" regulations. She told ME the Federal Reserve WAS part of the government, and that all our checks and electronic transfers went through the Federal reserve AND the government was part of it, blah blah. One of the things I had been wondering ALL along, too, tho we did not discuss it, was ..IMAGINE an insurance company where you pay premiums, because you are FORCED to, and they NEVER have to pay any claims. Imagine how much money they should have piled up when 9 measly banks fail and they have to pay a few claims after decades of none. They should have PILES of money!
Americans need this info. They need to see how corrupt the government has become, because it is TOO DAMNED BIG!
Great post.
Maybe he would not believe that the IRS
Not part of GOVT also.
Diversified metals VS Steve Morgan, t-bow trust, IRS
Atleast you have a court case to prove him wrong on this one.
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Like Social Security...
or any other 'fund' the gov't was supposed to be maintaining as a safety net, we will ultimately find out that they've spent every penny we assumed they had ever put away for a rainy day and then some.
All we have as a legacy is debt.
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
We are a debtor nation... there is NO money
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That was awesome info:
I was especially stuck at the point between 15.30 and 15:50 where it was said the public determines how much cash is printed and then goes on to say that it is all demand driven from the bottom up.
Thanks for posting and I intend to share it with everyone I know.
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Ummm... wrong thread...
I think you meant to post this comment on the "Meet the Federal Reserve" video thread...
This one:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/57944
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