Pat Robertson to endorse Rudy Giuliani - MSNBC

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DE4DF133EF...

Every good Christian ought to kick Robertson right in the ass!

"Senator Goldwater, [who] once famously remarked, "I think every good Christian ought to kick Falwell right in the ass."

to think of the craven manipulation afoot. But I feel fine now, with the realization that such blatant god awful hypocrisy will only serve to destroy the illusions of many good people...who will be open to a little Ron Paul reality. Pat's extremity is Ron's opportunity.

So much for Pat Robertson's bid to lead evangelical America.

"Government is not reason, it is not eloquence; it is force. Like fire it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."

If the evangelicals won't back Rudy then why would Pat?
Support for Isreal maybe?

I cannot waite for this idiot Robertson and CBN to feel the blow back because of this! this guy has made a deal with devil... literaly!!!
and we wonder why this country is in the sad sorry shape its in.. when our supposide Christian leaders cannot tell the difference between right and wrong its all over folks! Makes me so mad!
RON PAUL IN 08'09'10'11'12'13'14'15'

How long does it take to taint your entire career and give up any credibility you had left? Let's see...How long was that press conference? Amazes me to no end...not that he had didn't many faults, but mainly that a man who has consistantly advocated Pro Life philosophies dump them in fear of Hillary and the idea that you or I face a real grave danger from Islamofascists. This will most likely start many Christians (even the millions who thought he was theologically off the mark like myself) scrambling for truth. I promise you this will rock the waters and our man, Ron Paul, will benefit from this. God Bless Ron Paul and God Bless this Nation.

It will be a lot easier to get his "former followers" now. Now that they realize even Pat Robertson never believed what he was preaching (and making tens of millions as a perk) Now is the time - any relative or friend that had been boondoggled by this guy, just as when his cohort and business model Jim Baker went down, is ripe to hear truth, liberty, justice!

Dear Pastor Robertson,

I am shocked and deeply saddened to learn of your endorsement of Rudy Giuliani for President. Mr. Giulliani is NOT a Christian Conservative. The following scripture comes to mind: Acts 20:28-30 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.

Surely there will come a PRO LIFE ,CONSERVATIVE, CHRISTIAN CANDIDATE, emerging soon from the lower tier of candidates with a message and a platform we can support.
We must remain patient. In only a few short weeks that leader will appear and it will not be Giulliani, Romney or McCain.

Sincerely,

Steven Orrange
Georgetown, Tx

Dear Pat,

He is an excerpt of a conversation you had with Jerry Falwell discussing why 9/11 happened:

Falwell said, "The ACLU has got to take a lot of blame for this. And I know I'll hear from them for this, but throwing God...successfully with the help of the federal court system...throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools, the abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked and when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad...I really believe that the pagans and the abortionists and the feminists and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way, all of them who try to secularize America...I point the thing in their face and say you helped this happen."

Robertson - "I totally concur, and the problem is we've adopted that agenda at the highest levels of our government, and so we're responsible as a free society for what the top people do, and the top people, of course, is the court system."

Just how angry will God become if America elects as its president a man who:

1) supports abortion under all circumstances;
2) supports homosexual marriage, cross dresses, and marches in gay parades; and
3) openly commits adultery and lets his mistress cohabit with him in the mayoral mansion of NYC?

More to the point, Pat, don't you think endorsing a man like Rudolph Guiliani for president will make God angry at you? Of all people, you should know better.

Dear Pat Roberson,

How could you OPENLY betray the true meaning of Christianity, by endorsing Rudy Giuliani, a man who’s not even been loyal to his own family, a man who is on his third wife, and who is openly pro abortion?

How could you support a man who is directly responsible for the deaths of countless firefighters regarding the 9/11 twin tower collapses, due to his own form of corruption as mayor of New York City?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaCYEEO-58I

How could your support a man who knowingly and opening lied before the congressional hearings about why those fire fighters did not get out before those buildings collapsed? A man who lied to congress, by saying they chose to be patriots and fight on, instead of getting out. A man who absolutely knew the real reason they did not get out was because their radios would not function in high-rise conditions. A fact he fully was aware of since 1992, which ultimately led to their deaths. I suggest you CHECK OUT THE FACTS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaCYEEO-58I

Giuliani, has since fought very hard to keep this information suppressed from ever seeing the light of day, but it is just now getting the attention it needs.

In conclusion, I supported you personally when you ran for president yourself in the 80's. I became a delegate back then to help you get the chance at becoming the Republican Nomination for the general election, because I believed in you back then. I CONTINUED to endorsed you even after your most ‘embarrassing comments’ during your election campaign, where you stated you had confidential sources, ‘confirmed proof’, that there were nuclear weapons in Cuba and the Government wasn't doing anything about it. The President back then was Ronald Reagan, and he challenged you to bring forth your proof, which you could not do. He called your bluff, forcing you to completely recant your story as being unfounded (most people considered you a liar back then). The press had a field day with you on that one, DOES THAT BRING BACK ANY MEMORIES for you.

I will never support you, or your religiously hypocritical organization again, as long as I live. I will be publishing this email as far and wide as possible... YOU MAKE ME SICK!

May God continue to bless Ron Paul, a true Christian, a man without ungodly ambition.

hjschaapman

It's interesting the spin that some of these so-called Christians have on the events before Jesus returns. They don't seem to study the Bible much but more rely on their own ideas and what suits their selfishness. We are not supposed to be thirsting after war and bloodshed and supporting liars, we are supposed to be making disciples of all men (teaching people about Jesus) and Peter says in 1 Peter 4:7-9
"But the end of all things is at hand; therefore be serious and watchful in your prayers. And above all things have fervent love for one another, for "Love will cover a multitude of sins." Be hospitable to one another without grumbling."
Somehow we keep missing the message of the sermon on the mount and insincere people calling themselves Christians but are really the Antichrist (acting in place of Christ and against Christ's principles) seem to be getting the most publicity.
Ron Paul is the real deal and God knows it. We know it, too. So set us follow Peter's instructions and pray for him and love one another, be hospitable and stop grumbling. ;0)

Healthnuttie for Ron Paul

Does anyone know any other Christian leaders who endorse Ron Paul?

Perhaps efforts in letter writing could be used to re-inforce their support and leadership and influence.

Here's one that I know of named Chuck Baldwin:

http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2007/cbarchive_20071106.html

...that by inciting a world conflict that the savior will come about, I feel this is the same attitude many Christians have toward global conflict. It's like they want a scenario where the sh*t can hit the fan, so long as they are not personally inconvenienced, so that their savior can also return. It's the epitome of selfishness. For generations people have wanted the return of their Messiah in their own lifetimes, which is why peace really doesn't suit the agenda.

And we've already been conditioned to believe that the only "peace" that will come, will be a false peace by an "Antichrist". So the conditions to have peace overthrown is already in place.

It's almost a self fulfilling prophecy, and years upon years upon years of this bloodshed and nothing happens. No one rides out of the sky to put an end to anything.

And here we have a true champion of peace, a literal, physical person you can see, who's led an exemplary life, who's made it his life's work to promote liberty for all, and he gets shafted for a pie in the sky.

I mean seriously. I don't have a problem with faith based propositions but there has to be a sense of reality when you look at whats going on in the world. People need to look to themselves before they look upward to the sky. People need to collectively be the change that they want to see in the world, and Ron Paul is the catalyst to making that happen, along with the many others who are also working toward these goals.

...But then you have people like Pat Robertson who need death and destruction, who need force and fraud, who need coercion to bring about change. That is not freedom.

My question is: Why is the return of a Messiah exclusive to only world calamity? Why can't we maintain a peaceful world to wait for this return?

"Dear Mr. Brody:

I find Pat Robertson’s endorsement of Rudy Giuliani very offensive. The Value Voters gave Mr. Giuliani less than 2% of their vote. Mr. Giuliani does not represent what I feel are Christian and family values. "

Actually I find Pat Robertson and Rudy Giuliani both extremely offensive, but Robertson puts himself up as a Christian. How can a Christian endorse Giuliani? Robertson is obviously more of a Neocon than a Christian.