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Inexpensive Alternative Housing...

I am working on designing a quality house people can build themselves cheaply and quickly and not have a mortgage. I have settled on what are called ferro-cement houses. Ferro cement is what you see on stucco houses however they are wood framed and covered with 3 layers of cement a scratch coat, a brown coat and a color/texture coat. Most in ground pools are made of ferro cement and many ocean sail boats and ships are also made of ferro cement. However my design will have no wood frame it will be all steel framed. Cement, sand, rebar, and wire mesh and or fibers are still some of the cheapest building materials available and can be made into any shape...

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I want to build a replica of Moticello

awesome design. Surprisingly compact.

i would like to see

dorm style housing, with private bedrooms but communal living areas

might even be able to use storage unit type metal construction to bring costs down

Hey! I live in a dorm

On my floor there is my family, 2 single male adults and....28 10th grade boys! I'm in charge. Oh, it's funtime 24/7. We have a couple communal living rooms and a huge dining hall too.

I'm fairly certain though that most folks wouldn't want to live like this :)

h-daddy

Aaaah! I finally

got your link to work and now I understand your idea much better. I bet it works just fine.

You could even do interior walls, benches, counters too.

h-daddy

OK, so I live

in an 1833 farmhouse which is a beast to heat in the NW PA winters - but it's paid for.

We have 40 acres (and a mule) - the good news is a gas well will be drilled on the property shortly for free heat. Whew!

We also have a very rare necessity - spring water! Gravity flow off the hill - no pump necessary. Great, huh? Small stream flows beside the house which is very common for old farmhouses. They build them and the barn close to running water back then.

Can irrigate garden, is necessary - again, gravity flow through a hose set upstream.

roughly

roughly how much does it cost to have a well drilled?

that sounds like a great setup

We recently bought forty acres too. we're up high but there's still water so we're going to drill above our home, which is in a valley, and gravity feed the water while we also water the cattle in the pasture above. Got an awesome pond loaded with bass, and we're going to dig a pond for raising catfish. Rabbits eat scraps, crap in the worm boxes below, worms eat said rabbit poo and crap worm "castings". That is the best nutrient for your soil that you can get, and its free. also you use the worms to feed the catfish, or to fish. Believe me there will be plenty.

I read an old old mother earth news article where a guy was doing this in town. He was raising fifty catfish at a time in a barrel, of course he had good circulation for the water. Had some rabbits, and did the worm thing. And he did it in town...I was thinking about doing that in town when luckily we found this acreage. Now we're going to throw some goats, ducks, chickens, sheep, anything we can eat, into the mix.

Sounds like you have a dream setup..good luck!

You can give a

small home a feeling of being larger by opening up to the roof - w/o rafters. Waynes coat on the ceiling and stain light for the feeling of even more space.

I saw a sm ranch done this way - two bedrooms and a den. When you walked in, it looked huge! Large living room with optional dining room table at the kitchen end of the room. Half wall open to kitchen for food pass through and expand the feel of the kitchen also.

Many trucks to give the 'feel" of a larger home with the economics of a smaller one. If no basement, heat in the floors is the way to go with supplemental heat in the peak.

Another one I saw, you walk in to living room/dining room and off to the right is the kitchen (L shaped) ALL with open to the roof. Huge space for family to gather - and was only two bedrooms. It is my 82 yr.old aunt's retirement home on a golf course (for resale purposes).

Yes definitely opens up a

Yes definitely opens up a room however you still need to insulate the roof since you don't have an insulated ceiling

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I have always thought that the best way to

lower housing costs is to get rid of all the codes and zoning regulations. In areas of Maine where all this stuff is minimal folks put up their own housing all the time. Places with 2 acre, or even 5 acre, minimum lot sizes and intensive building codes make it so the average joe can't even live there. The building codes stifle creativity and resourcefulness.

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I agree that is one way to

I agree that is one way to lower costs. There are areas in most states that have minimal codes or no codes. Usually rural or mountains with small populations or remote.

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Very cool but high

Very cool but high maintenance. You need a good roof with large overhangs

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That is very very

cool. A hobbit house!

h-daddy

Pole Home

We are going to build a home that looks like a log home but instead it will be a pole home. Much like the beach houses, except that our poles will be the support for our floors and roof, exactly like a pole barn, only finished out. Our local electric co-op is letting us have the poles for free, and then we just paint them several times to seal in any contaminates, and then fram them up on the outside of the structure, or fully encase them in the wall. There are no load bearing walls so it can be as open as you want it, you can add on to it at any time, and using poles you can build on slopes, or whatever type of land you have with no sight preparation, and of course no expensive concrete foundations.

The rest is going to come from a discount lumber store close to our town, and Craigslist.

I applaud your work, inexpensive housing has always been something I've worked on designing. We're planning on building our outbuildings and animal housing using different ideas such as papercrete, cobb style, straw bale, and stacked cord wood. Have fun!

I was actually thinking of

I was actually thinking of also doing a pole and beam structure and a catenary dome ferro cement and the log ends could stick out sort of pueblo style and the ridge pole could sit in the peak even but it would be domes instead of square that would give it some log accents and contrast. There are all kinds of things you can do with this stuff.

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What I'd suggest, actually,

What I'd suggest, actually, is the pole method (also known as post-frame construction), using large scale lumber--20 foot 2 x 6s--laminated together into 4 x 6 or 6 x 6 beams. This way you get the advantages of a posthole foundation with square planes of lumber that are more easily joined together than poles/logs.

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I've looked into that

in my searching. I plan on using laminated beams encased in rough cedar as my actual beams. I'm just using the non creosote utility poles as my support. Think beach home, but rather than building a platform and framing it up, the poles are six feet deep, and they run all the way through your home. With the help of a few laminated beams it can be nearly as open as you want it to be. Oh yeah, and cheap. :O)

I wouldn't.

Dale,

There are a lot of great alternatives for low-cost building, but I would not try living in a house built with preservative-treated utility poles. Creosote is for ground contact, not for human contact.

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These poles

don't have any creosote in them, and luckily they have been steam cleaned. On top of that they get four to six coats of paint, And they will be either completely inside the wall (giving alot of insulation space) or they will be completely outside the structure, in which case they will be rocked from the ground to the actual home six feet above.

I've seen this done and you can have a beautiful, open, home with log siding and pine interior. The cost is incredible, especially when you get things off of craigslist.

My neighbor

build one of these, and you cannot tell, from it's looks, inside or outside.

Be careful if they have been treated with creasote.

That is a very strong chemical that can bleed through and burn you skin plus it's probably toxic to breath the fumes.

definitely

no creosote. I've seen a few done this way, and I've read several great books on this method. I'm sold on it. LOL

Pole homes are great for catching the breeze.

Most homes in my area are pole homes.

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I know a little about this

I know a little about this subject because over the past two years, I have been building a renaissance faire. We've created many small buildings.

Ferro-cement/concrete stucco is indeed the perfect construction medium except for one big problem: It's a tremendous amount of work. It is much cheaper than wood frame, but also much, much slower to do. It can yield very pleasing results, especially if you use white portland with white or colored sand---but it's a chore to build.

If you want to build an easy, inexpensive small house, I recommend using wood "clapboard" construction over a post and beam ("pole barn") frame. Very easy learning curve, and it creates a very light, strong, solid building. Stain it instead of painting, so that you can continue to upgrade its exterior with minimal fuss.

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I don't know where you get

not sure why you get slower then wood frame. I could have a shell up in a few days to week depending on the size. if you spray the concrete on then it's even faster. I would say it's easily comparable if you use cement mixer.

But then again I am not sayings it the only way and peoples mileage may very depending on how they go about it.

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see my post above

This is exactly what we are going to do, only we are going to go ahead and frame up between our poles and run log siding on the outside. However if we were in a pinch clapboard would be the much more economical way to go.

Here's a really cheap housing idea

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Yeap I built one of those too.

It was a Souix Tee Pee design, about 20 feet tall and with a liner inside that provided some insulation as well as channeled the smoke to the top. They are beautiful structures.

so

have you ever put a yurt together? I have been looking at yurts and teepee's from the colorado yurt company..quite expensive but we've got some good ideas.