If Ron Paul isn't right for our country then why does the MSM always go to him for solid answers about what is going on? You don't hear them asking Obama or McCain WHY this is happening only what they are going to do about it (so they can spew BS motivational speeches with no real answers). When it comes to asking WHY they always go to Ron Paul. So if he's got the answers then he should be the one behind the podium that has the presidential seal on it... ;)
Submitted by pawnstorm12 on Thu, 09/18/2008 - 03:27.
And neither of the other 2 candidates can speak intelligently about monetary issues.
Why???
Because they don't fundementally understand economics as Ron Paul does.
Why???
Because it takes a LOT of reading and hard work to fully understand economics. Sometimes it gets plenty boring too.
But Dr. Paul has studied it for decades and has explained to us over and over about sound monetary policy.
Only HE has the qualifications to be president right now. NONE of the others do, and America has missed its BEST CHANCE.
What a shame.
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Submitted by stephenmwells on Wed, 09/17/2008 - 20:49.
I love to say he told you so...
SO I will , he told ya so.
OH Ron Paul is a fringe candidate , he is crazy, he is a loon, and so on and so on. But you know what, sometimes its those crazy people that have the vision. The vision to think with deep understanding and then they cry out and no one listens until his cause proves correct then everybody is clammering to get him on to give his thoughts.
America really does need to ditch the sitcoms and ball games and get back to reality, which is over seeing the government officials to ensure they do what is expected of them. Otherwise they run rough shot and do as they please cause everyone is on Prozac, booze or TV. My god what has this nation become.
Submitted by ......... on Wed, 09/17/2008 - 18:43.
Ya know, I was just thinking about something he said. He was essentially talking about the debt owed and that all this new "bailout" money is just going to add to that national debt instead of really solving anything. However, that got me thinking: we have been borrowing and borrowing from ourselves for years and years. Why all of a sudden does that seem to be showing its effects now? Why now? In some ways, it seems arbitrary. In other words, if a friend owes me $1,000 but can't afford it this month, I would just wait till he can afford it, even if that's a year from now. Am I missing something?
if he does not, no problem, you can borrow forever..
the friend always wanna get paid though...
otherwise no one would ever have to work LOL
all can just lend to each other... and all starve together
Submitted by ......... on Wed, 09/17/2008 - 19:12.
First off, I guess you read it wrong. I was saying someone owes me, not the other way around. Now yes I understand eventually you wanna get paid. My point is why now? That's my primary question. It seems arbitrary.
He knows how to fix it, knew how to avoid it..no one listens..Cavuto wants to forget "dire" news..When will RP get a chance to FIX this whole malarkey??
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Submitted by SIERRAHPBT on Wed, 09/17/2008 - 16:23.
derivatives... HUNDREDS OF TRILLIONS OF $ DERIVATIVES used as assets on the books that are not worth the paper they are printed on!
gold and silver baby! get it now!
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on Fox. They got so many emails yesterday from the comments on Oreilly they had to get him on. I bought gold today, (should have bought yesterday) and my advisor said people are finally starting to wake up, but he is having a hard time gaining an inventory.
Submitted by MichaelMcC on Wed, 09/17/2008 - 19:14.
If I have it correctly (and I am NOT an economist - Austrian or otherwise):
If a bank/S&L/CU fails and is not bailed out it may be deflationary: The extra money that had been created by the fractional reserve banking through that bank vanishes. If that vanished money is greater than the amount of new-printed money that goes into the FDIC/etc. payments covering the shortfall when the depositors get paid off up to the insurance limit, the money supply has shrunk. (Losers are those who had more than the limit deposited and the FDIC insurance funds that cover the part of the shortfall that isn't covered by new money. Winners are those who took out the bad loans that they never pay off. Those who have assets denominated in dollars win by the excess of vanished over new-printed money.)
But if they bail it out totally with fiat money - or if the shortfall is too great - there's more printed than vanishes and it is inflationary. (Bad loan makers are bigger winners than the over-limit losers, those with dollar-denominated assets are now losers and make up the value of the surplus of the new-printed over vanished money.)
What happened just now is that the AIG and Fannie/Freddie bailouts are an enormous (and still largely unbounded) hunk of new-printed money and the market is starting to react to that.
Maybe somebody more knowledgeable can confirm or correct that?
I saw this live and am amazed how quickly you got a YouTube up. Good Job.
As usual, RP was right on the mark.
As you may have noticed, Dr. Paul has been keeping up with our movement and was even aware of the video we got on the front page of Digg yesterday (as well as a few other YouTube videos) about how he was predicting this market "correction" (collapse) as much as 5 years ago. I am always enthralled to learn what we are doing here out in the field continues to feed up to the C4L.. THIS, my fellow DailyPaul-ians, is true democracy at work in the information age, and what I hope will become the model for future generations. Ron Paul may very well become known as one of the "founding fathers" or visionaries of USA 2.0.
Dr. Paul has so much to say, my only critique is that he tries to lay it all out so quickly, it's a bit of a frantic pace and he may lose some of John Q. Public just due to the speed he talks about it all. The media is much to blame, too many times have they interrupted him during interviews, but now that they are all paying more attention to him and letting him speak, I think he should just slow down 15-20%. That may cut out 1 part of an intended 5-part message but it's the J.Q. Publics out there we need to get interested in what he has to say, enough so for them to go do some research and wake up to the frightening possibility of a USSA in their lifetimes.
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Submitted by BenMont1981 on Wed, 09/17/2008 - 16:04.
To relate this to something most of us have experienced I am going to use the game of monopoly. In monopoly you have a banker. This person generally makes change, pays players after they pass go and handles the property transactions. The Federal Reserve in the United States, to a large degree, is the same as the banker in monopoly. They control an infinite supply of paper currency.
Actually... that isn't really a good analogy. Prices in Monopoly are fixed and not subject to inflation. The banker has no power whatsoever in that game. It's merely a job somebody needs to do for the game to work. Much different from real life.
Oh Sure! NOW they want to interview him!
My first reaction to this was Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
I know I'm preaching to the proverbial choir, but it just irritates me to no end that "now" they start talking to Ron and taking him seriously!
They always go to him for answers.... why?
Here are rhetorical questions.
If Ron Paul isn't right for our country then why does the MSM always go to him for solid answers about what is going on? You don't hear them asking Obama or McCain WHY this is happening only what they are going to do about it (so they can spew BS motivational speeches with no real answers). When it comes to asking WHY they always go to Ron Paul. So if he's got the answers then he should be the one behind the podium that has the presidential seal on it... ;)
Very good point...
And neither of the other 2 candidates can speak intelligently about monetary issues.
Why???
Because they don't fundementally understand economics as Ron Paul does.
Why???
Because it takes a LOT of reading and hard work to fully understand economics. Sometimes it gets plenty boring too.
But Dr. Paul has studied it for decades and has explained to us over and over about sound monetary policy.
Only HE has the qualifications to be president right now. NONE of the others do, and America has missed its BEST CHANCE.
What a shame.
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I love to say he told you so...
SO I will , he told ya so.
OH Ron Paul is a fringe candidate , he is crazy, he is a loon, and so on and so on. But you know what, sometimes its those crazy people that have the vision. The vision to think with deep understanding and then they cry out and no one listens until his cause proves correct then everybody is clammering to get him on to give his thoughts.
America really does need to ditch the sitcoms and ball games and get back to reality, which is over seeing the government officials to ensure they do what is expected of them. Otherwise they run rough shot and do as they please cause everyone is on Prozac, booze or TV. My god what has this nation become.
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Ya know, I was just thinking
Ya know, I was just thinking about something he said. He was essentially talking about the debt owed and that all this new "bailout" money is just going to add to that national debt instead of really solving anything. However, that got me thinking: we have been borrowing and borrowing from ourselves for years and years. Why all of a sudden does that seem to be showing its effects now? Why now? In some ways, it seems arbitrary. In other words, if a friend owes me $1,000 but can't afford it this month, I would just wait till he can afford it, even if that's a year from now. Am I missing something?
at some point your friend gets tired of w8 ing
if he does not, no problem, you can borrow forever..
the friend always wanna get paid though...
otherwise no one would ever have to work LOL
all can just lend to each other... and all starve together
/Mike
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First off, I guess you read
First off, I guess you read it wrong. I was saying someone owes me, not the other way around. Now yes I understand eventually you wanna get paid. My point is why now? That's my primary question. It seems arbitrary.
well why now ? hmm I guess it has to come some time
maybe it has reached a point now that was to big..
If I read you wrong sry..
but a lot has to do with confidence from foreigners in the dollar...it seems it is falling and then it all falls, as it has no backing...
/Mike
/Mike
Front Fell Off
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcU4t6zRAKg
He knows how to fix it, knew
He knows how to fix it, knew how to avoid it..no one listens..Cavuto wants to forget "dire" news..When will RP get a chance to FIX this whole malarkey??
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link?
anyone got the link to the video they are talking about in the interview?
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not sure it was a video..
might this be it ?
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul128.html
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derivatives... HUNDREDS OF
derivatives... HUNDREDS OF TRILLIONS OF $ DERIVATIVES used as assets on the books that are not worth the paper they are printed on!
gold and silver baby! get it now!
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wow amazing.. did you HEAR
wow amazing.. did you HEAR .... SKYROCKETING INFLATION.. so much for the deflation theorists! rethink your plans!
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Deflation/Inflation in bank failures
If I have it correctly (and I am NOT an economist - Austrian or otherwise):
If a bank/S&L/CU fails and is not bailed out it may be deflationary: The extra money that had been created by the fractional reserve banking through that bank vanishes. If that vanished money is greater than the amount of new-printed money that goes into the FDIC/etc. payments covering the shortfall when the depositors get paid off up to the insurance limit, the money supply has shrunk. (Losers are those who had more than the limit deposited and the FDIC insurance funds that cover the part of the shortfall that isn't covered by new money. Winners are those who took out the bad loans that they never pay off. Those who have assets denominated in dollars win by the excess of vanished over new-printed money.)
But if they bail it out totally with fiat money - or if the shortfall is too great - there's more printed than vanishes and it is inflationary. (Bad loan makers are bigger winners than the over-limit losers, those with dollar-denominated assets are now losers and make up the value of the surplus of the new-printed over vanished money.)
What happened just now is that the AIG and Fannie/Freddie bailouts are an enormous (and still largely unbounded) hunk of new-printed money and the market is starting to react to that.
Maybe somebody more knowledgeable can confirm or correct that?
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Thank you
I saw this live and am amazed how quickly you got a YouTube up. Good Job.
As usual, RP was right on the mark.
As you may have noticed, Dr. Paul has been keeping up with our movement and was even aware of the video we got on the front page of Digg yesterday (as well as a few other YouTube videos) about how he was predicting this market "correction" (collapse) as much as 5 years ago. I am always enthralled to learn what we are doing here out in the field continues to feed up to the C4L.. THIS, my fellow DailyPaul-ians, is true democracy at work in the information age, and what I hope will become the model for future generations. Ron Paul may very well become known as one of the "founding fathers" or visionaries of USA 2.0.
Dr. Paul has so much to say, my only critique is that he tries to lay it all out so quickly, it's a bit of a frantic pace and he may lose some of John Q. Public just due to the speed he talks about it all. The media is much to blame, too many times have they interrupted him during interviews, but now that they are all paying more attention to him and letting him speak, I think he should just slow down 15-20%. That may cut out 1 part of an intended 5-part message but it's the J.Q. Publics out there we need to get interested in what he has to say, enough so for them to go do some research and wake up to the frightening possibility of a USSA in their lifetimes.
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How To Steal In Day Light or A Lesson From The Fed. In Winning M
To relate this to something most of us have experienced I am going to use the game of monopoly. In monopoly you have a banker. This person generally makes change, pays players after they pass go and handles the property transactions. The Federal Reserve in the United States, to a large degree, is the same as the banker in monopoly. They control an infinite supply of paper currency.
http://benjaminmontgomery.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/how-to-st...
http://benjaminmontgomery.com/
Actually... that isn't
Actually... that isn't really a good analogy. Prices in Monopoly are fixed and not subject to inflation. The banker has no power whatsoever in that game. It's merely a job somebody needs to do for the game to work. Much different from real life.