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Submitted by Chessienut on Fri, 09/19/2008 - 21:47
they win. Who of us is ready for an armed march on the traitors in Washington? I'd dare say the only positive responses to that query would be from government plants or provocateers. Whos amongst us is going to be the first in line to be cut down by machine gun fire which our govenrnment has already shown it will use to crush dissent? When we are done flailing ourselfs and bemoaning the current state of affairs and are really ready to put our lives on the
line to rescue this noble experiment let me know. I really want to have my kids grow up in a free nation and will gladly sacrifice my life to ensure it happens. Time to walk the walk.
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It MUST be the WOMEN, and YES, I am a woman
the "paul4won" was in reference to a candidate, not me. Anyway.
I am ready, but not ready for violence. If the women were to take to the streets, unarmed, en masse, we could make it happen. There is a march planned Saturday in DC, I think.
Girks?
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.
Got news for you
The US Soildiers, will be played and used like pawns against us.
You should study a little about the civil war. It was not a war for or against slavery, it MOSTLY was an economic war, In reality, A hostile corporate takeover plus subjugation.
In this day of the information age, THE NET MAY WORK. Hell you just have to get it in the mainstream sites to sway people into looking at the DP or other freedom loving sites.
Freedom may be worth searching for.
Remember, Dont battle the govt with guns(ALONE), Beat them in court, in state legislature, or hire Ron Paul for president.
I'm concerned with all of them
being stuck in another country fighting their when TSHF here. I don't know but it would make sense that "They" would not want our own service people here to help defend us. I could be wrong and it is pure speculation on my part. *** (Posted in wrong spot - in reference to our military being on our side)***
"For with God nothing shall be impossible"
Most of those soldiers that
Most of those soldiers that signed, up signed because they believe in this country. How many men and women signed up after 911?
Synopsis: If you unite the armed forces in a cause far from home where they may be killed or become sick from the depleted uranium, then they will either come home in the process of dieing due to the illness or not come home at all. If 911 never happened and we still found ourselves where we are today. Those service members would be hear today looking for a cause to fight for, something to give life meaning. If the powers that be had not staged 911 then that cause would be a lot closer to home.
These men and women probably have dreams of what they might have done or capitalized on other opportunities had they not signed up for something that they felt at the time was bigger then them, bigger than their own dreams, desires, or opportunities for without the protection of their country what would they have? Their country needs them but they will either not be available or only in small numbers. It is by design and it's a tactic that has been used threw out time in many ancient cultures. That until now forgot what previous plots had been played out by or on their ancestors.
"I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever." - Thomas Jefferson
"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it."
As far as the Police or Armed forces are concerned
I wouldn't hold out much hope on their assistance. One only has to look at the actions of the police in Texas where they forcibly took hundreds of children away from their families. You think they didn't know how unconstitutional their actions were? I personally am aquainted with prison guards who are as a criminal as any they are watching. Imagine a guard who does heroin in charge of a prisoner who is there for weed. And lets not forget a college in Ohio called Kent State.
If not us than who?
For the time being, I would join your local militia.
First things first. Don't assume that every American understands what you do about fiat money, the federal reserve, the income tax, illegal wars, false-flag attacks and other abuses of the constitution.
Once you have joined the militia and prepared your family for the hard times ahead (with supplies), one of the most patriotic things you can do is man your keyboard and get the message out. Also to encourage those who are not online to question the TV and print media.
"As for me and my home. We will read Peter Schiff."
Good luck with that.
My grandfather used to say taking was the only way. He might have been right. The DC trash is constantly occupied with their latest business of serving themselves. Few of them want anything to change. Playing footsie with the corporate world is far too comfortable. I for one am ready at a second's notice to do whatever possible to protect future generations from the gigantic crime wave we now face. But who will join me?
Every single day I experience an unsurmountable degree of frustration (sometimes even outright anguish) over this very issue.
As antsy as we might get, however, the time has to be right. A victor needs patience.
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Timing is EVERYTHING.
In a matter like that.
Not something to go off half-cocked on.
When you start it, you'd better be able to finish it.
Not a matter for emotional minds to be involved in.
REBELLION TO TYRANTS IS OBEDIENCE TO GOD
This was written on the very first United States seal created by Jefferson, Franklin and John Adams. Think about what that means?
Remember, "the pen is mightier than the sword"
We need to be involved politically and take over these parties. That is the first phase of civil unrest.
Attempting to take over these parties
has been proven to be futile. As an example I might point out the unconsciable actions of the Nevada GOP just a couple months ago. They will not hesitate to violate or even change their rules or laws to ensure their continued grip on power. We have tipped our hand this election and you can better believe they will have plans for us in the next.
If not us than who?
I agree 200%
I jumped right in to the GOP; they closed ranks and shut all the RP people out, except the ones who were willing to support McCain.
At the local and county level, the GOP is worth being active in. At the state and federal level, they are lost to us. We cannot compete with the lobbyists or NWO elite, we will never win them back. They need replaced, and we can not do it through the election process, they control that.
When people are ready to accept that big, ugly, reality, then maybe we can find enough nerve to march en masse. I am ready, I will take the front line. Friggin cowards in the military OUGHT to be on the front line, that is their job. However, if all we can get is a middle aged housewife to stare down the evil in government, I am ready. I will be in the face of the State Chair today, and hopefully the Congressman, although he tries to avoid me.
I have thought from the beginning it is up to the women. If we marched and they fired on us, THEN the men would get pissed enough to do something besides type. Maybe.
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.
Please don't forget the brave men and women of our armed forces
Many, Many, Many of them will be joining us. A lot of them will "stock-up" before coming over.
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Really? What do you base that on?
There was a period about 6 months ago where I would have agreed. Now that the "surge worked" they all seem to have gone back on the blue pill. EX-military, now they are locked and loaded. Active military, proud to serve, and the media just lies to us, and we don't understand. How is this one: "Saddam WAS a weapon of mass destruction, in his person."
I am coming around to not so much supporting the troops. There come a point when we are ALL personally responsible for our actions. How many of these people are in there just for money? They call it "the poverty draft" but at some point, one has to take measure of what they are doing to get their paycheck. Serving the armed forces of evil is NOT OK. "The Universal Soldier" really IS to blame. GWB has never fired one shot at an Iraqi.
Yes, I have family in the military, and one of those 4100+ that died in Iraq was a relative. I am still allowed to have an opinion, and even express it as long as I do it very carefully.
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.
Unless its a simultaneous mass movement in the armed forces
You can bet the first Patriots to attempt to come over to us will be dealt with in the harshest manner available to make examples of.
If not us than who?
Good post Chessienut, but
while they have their armies and money machines, we are armed with knowledge and truth. We can't win by fighting on their terms, we must use our own weapons.
An earlier post said the pols and banksters are losing the war by themselves; in their greed and overconfidence they are cracking their own system. As their failures mount and cut deeper into everyone's standard of living and security, more and more people are seeing beyond the smokescreen.
Now is our time! With words, on the net, in our neighborhoods, we have actual answers, we can explain how the political/international- finance classes have sold us out; we can help people learn how to say no, how to refuse slavery, refuse the war/empire machine.
You are right, we can waste time just talking to ourselves on the D.P.
OR we can come here to continue educating ourselves, to inspire and encourage each other, share resources and strategies.
Then take all of that OUT INTO THE WORLD. It's not a battle of bodies,
but of ideas. We are far better armed.
I'm a parent too and understand your fears. But think how much your love of freedom has enriched your life. Give the same gift to your children. The more people who share the love of freedom, the more we all have to live for.
Truth might be on ourside but
how can we deal with such an overwhelming amount of people who are willing to gladly accept the lies being fed to us? How can we wake up the sheep?
If not us than who?
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I loved your post, thank you dear, and that is coming from an ex-military member btw!!!!
Nothing beats one on one conversation
It can happen any time, any place. Strike up conversations with total strangers when you are in line at the store or out for a jog. Don't beat people over the head with facts, just let the conversation flow. Listen carefully to what other people say, and let your ideas of freedom and liberty slowly filter into the dialogue. Or if you're not comfortable talking to strangers, just wear a Ron Paul shirt everywhere you go and be really nice to people! ;-)
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Well if you weren't on a
Well if you weren't on a government watch list you are now. lol
Is this the situation where you can't effect change if you die and can't effect change unless you die? Say you do die then what? You don't get to see the results. Will anybody notice? Maybe if enough of us die someone will notice... Or perhaps the media will just cover it up and spin it in their favor. I can't even imagine what would have to transpire for a full on armed uprising to occur in the states. I'm sure when the time comes you'll know it.
"I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever." - Thomas Jefferson
"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it."
I know I am on...
a government watch list....I don't care. They can arrest me, they can torture me, they can kill me, but they will not take my beliefs, or my thoughts from me period, and I will not be silenced until death. I have fought for this great nation in the military, and for it's people, and I will not give up without a fight.
I figure if I'm on it
I might as well give them something to watch.
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Shoulda seen the look on my famillies face...
When I told them I was sure I was on some govt watch list. Their eyes got all big as they stood their in shock.
"I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever." - Thomas Jefferson
"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it."
I first appeared on their list in the late 60's
That was a cake walk compared to now. We all aren't young pups in this forum you know. What happens when the number of us being watched becomes greater than the number of watchers?
If not us than who?
Too soon. Give these pols more time to rally America for us
They are doing a great job of destroyin things that matter to our slumbering countrymen.
If we moblize now we have no numbers.
Budget cuts will come, THEN you'll see America jump.
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Our keyboards...
if used correctly can bring more change much easier than bullets. I agree, if we get too involved bitching on this board we will accomplish nothing. If we spread the message of liberty to all corners, from the Daily Kos to the the New Republic, maybe we can prevent sacrificing our lives. If not maybe at least we can have a few more of us when it becomes time.
I really think that with any significant, intelligent opposition that the establishment will just melt away. Perhaps it is more likely they would just change forms and become the leading advocates of reform. Either way, I can't help but get the feeling that we are winning... although we are loosing our shirts in the process.
I've already taken the oath
To defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. An armed march may be a little too ambitious and we could lose the core of the militia in one battle.
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an UNARMED march is what we need
and yes, people need to be ready to die for it. Those who come to arrest us will be armed.
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.
A patriot such as you
might be tried for treason with the current state of affairs and our current perverted rulers. No longer is the Constitution the law of the land, rather it is the law of the ruling elite, the Constitution and its adherents are impediments to them. When is the last time the US supreme court, note the absence of capitalization, came down on the true side of anything Constittutional?
If not us than who?
There will be no trial
That I can assure you. I think Patrick Henry said it best.
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There will be no trial
second that!
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