Baldwin's Letter

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For those of you scared to death of Baldwin because he's a (horrors!) Christian, here are his views. They are very much like Dr. Paul's, which is why Dr. Paul endorsed him:

Thank You, Dr. Ron Paul

By Chuck Baldwin September 23, 2008

http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2008/cbarchive_20080923_2.html

Yesterday, September 22, Congressman Ron Paul publicly gave me his endorsement for the office of President of the United States. In his blog at the Campaign for Liberty web site, he said, "I'm supporting Chuck Baldwin, the Constitution Party candidate." (See the complete statement at: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog/?p=582 )

Obviously, I could not be more delighted and honored to have Dr. Paul's endorsement. I called him last evening and thanked him personally. And now I want to thank him publicly.

I am fully aware that Dr. Paul was under considerable pressure from various groups that were actively soliciting his support. I can honestly say that I never lobbied Dr. Paul for his endorsement. He knew I would be thrilled to have it, but I have too much respect for Ron Paul to be so presumptuous as to expect him to endorse me. I completely understood his neutrality. He has strong ties to both the Libertarian and Constitution parties--not to mention the obvious fact that he is a ten-term Republican Congressman with much support from the Republican Party in his home district.

I was happy to support Ron Paul during the Republican primaries, because I believe in the same principles. I personally campaigned for him in several states and in this column. And I asked (or expected) nothing in return. In fact, I have stated this publicly, time and again: if Ron Paul had won the Republican nomination for President, I would not be running. I would still be supporting Ron Paul.

I am running for President because the Republican Party rejected Ron's Paul's message of constitutional government, fiscal responsibility, and non-interventionism. Therefore, someone had to pick up the mantle and carry this message into the general election. The Constitution Party asked me to be their standard-bearer in order to bring this message to the American people in November. So, here I am. And now, Ron Paul's endorsement is further substantiation that the message of constitutional government will
not die in 2008. The American people still have a real choice instead of the big-government, globalist, interventionist, "big box" party candidates, John McCain and Barack Obama.

Ron Paul's message is my message; Ron Paul's fight is my fight.

I want to return America to constitutional government. "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." (Amendment X) I believe that, and will govern the Executive branch of the federal government accordingly.

My sworn oath to the Tenth Amendment means I would dismantle the Patriot Act and restore law enforcement to the states and local governments, where it rightly belongs. Yes, this includes the so-called "war on drugs" and the so-called "war on terror." No more warrantless searches and seizures. No more eavesdropping on Americans' phone calls, or collecting Americans' emails, or spying on American citizens without court order and oversight. No more stripping Americans of their constitutional rights in the name of
"national security." In addition, I would use every power and authority vested to my office to preserve and protect the right of the people to keep and bear arms. And, yes, I will immediately restore Posse Comitatus. As President, I want to protect America from Washington, D.C., as much I want to protect it from foreign powers.

I will also take the words of the Declaration of Independence seriously, where it states, "That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States." This means the day I am sworn in as President of the United States, the New World Order comes crashing down! The NAFTA superhighway is dead. The North American Union is dead. I will work to eliminate NAFTA, CAFTA, GATT, and the WTO. The FTAA is DOA. I will not expend tax dollars for the support of the United Nations.

Furthermore, I will take my oath to the Constitution seriously, when it
states that one of the express purposes of the federal government is to "repel Invasions." This means we will secure America's borders, because the illegal immigration crisis is more than mere immigration: it is an invasion, and I will stop it! Even if I have to send the U.S. Army to the borders, we will put a stop to this invasion of illegal aliens. I will also aggressively prosecute those employers who knowingly hire illegals. And did I mention that my first day in office is Border Patrol Agents Ramos and Compean's last day in prison? I will personally open the prison doors and restore to these
men their freedom. I will also give them their jobs back (with pay), if they want them. And one more item on this point: my first day of office is also U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton's last day on the job.

I also share Ron Paul's concerns for the way the two major parties have allowed the United States to become a meddlesome, interventionist, nation-building empire for the sake of satisfying the greedy machinations of international bankers and power-hungry politicians. I will not only bring our troops home from Iraq and Afghanistan, but also from most of the other 130 nations that currently house U.S. forces. I will end foreign aid. I will get the U.S. out of NATO. It is past time for the European states to defend
themselves. It is time for us to stop sticking our nose in every other
nation's business and start taking care of the United States. The Warfare State will kill us. Global empires are not sustainable. I repeat: global empires are not sustainable. If history teaches anything, it teaches that.

Furthermore, the Bush doctrine of pre-emptive war is over, when I become President. Because I will take my oath to the Constitution seriously, I would never send troops to invade and occupy a foreign country without a Declaration of War by Congress. In dealing with rogue terrorist organizations such as al Qaeda, I will seek letters of Marque and Reprisal from Congress, which would give me the authority to use whatever special and/or private forces are necessary to seek out and destroy those who desire our hurt.

And even though I am a born again Christian (as is Ron Paul), I would take my responsibility to protect the religious liberty of every American seriously. People have the right to worship God (or not worship God) according to the dictates of their own conscience. Whether one is Baptist, Catholic, Mormon, or agnostic, people have the right to practice their faith as they see fit. I am absolutely dedicated to preserving religious liberty. Religious tyranny is as evil as political or social tyranny. And, as I will be no man's slave, neither will I be any man's master.

I also share Ron Paul's commitment to the sanctity of life. When I become President, I will use the bully pulpit of the White House to press Congress to pass Dr. Paul's Sanctity of Life Act, which would overturn Roe v. Wade and end abortion-on-demand. On this topic, the GOP is especially hypocritical. The Republican Party controlled the entire federal government for six years and did nothing to save the life of a single unborn child. Saving unborn babies from the abortionists' scalpel is more than rhetoric with me, however.

Another area of agreement with Ron Paul is my philosophy of economics. Dr. Paul has been predicting the current financial meltdown in this country for years. And when all is done, the current bailout being proposed will do more harm than good. The problem is, America's leaders have rejected sound money policies for years, and the chickens are coming home to roost.

As President, I would seek to overturn the 16th Amendment, eliminate the Internal Revenue Service, and disband the Federal Reserve. I would lead the charge to return America to sound money principles. I would seek to reduce federal spending to constitutional levels by eliminating those same federal departments that Newt Gingrich promised to eliminate in his Contract with America back in 1994 (and then failed to do). I would seek to eliminate the Departments of Education, Commerce, Energy, etc. I would demand that Congress pass a balanced budget and that we stop deficit spending.

Neither John McCain nor Barack Obama will do any of the above. If he were President, Dr. Paul would do it, however, and so would I.

Needless to say, I am both humbled and honored that Ron Paul would place enough faith in me that he would endorse me for President. I can think of no higher compliment to my candidacy. I here and now publicly thank him for this vote of confidence. I know my Vice Presidential running mate, Darrell Castle (a former Marine Corps officer and Vietnam veteran), joins me in inviting all of Dr. Paul's supporters to help us take the message of constitutional government into the general election on November 4. Thank you.

*If you appreciate this column and want to help me distribute these
editorial opinions to an ever-growing audience, donations may now be made by credit card, check, or Money Order. Use this link:

http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/donate.php

*Disclaimer: I am currently a candidate for President of the United States on the Constitution Party ticket. My official campaign web site is located at: http://www.baldwin08.com/

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i emailed this all my

i emailed this all my contacts and introduced them to chuck and why I was voting for him, I did it politly and said I wanted them to have another option they wont hear on TV or the radio and I labeled the subject line "real change" now we will see if any ask questions. With the country crashing so fast hopefully people will start waking up fast.

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Daily Pauler's that will be at NJ reception for Baldwin....

I will buy you each a drink!!!!
We deserve one.
So look for me - and say the secret password (actually it's a secret "passphrase" it's "dailypaul! where's my drink?")
say that passphrase to this guy:
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that's me

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In or around Central NJ?
Come meet Chuck Baldwin September 26th
7:00 pm- 10:00 pm
Firehouse Restaurant, 455 St. Georges Ave., Rahway, NJ
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Free entry - donations appreciated and needed!
See you there.

So be it!

We're going to a meet and greet rally for Chuck Baldwin in NJ Friday night!

I will see you there

I can't wait to meet with like-minded people after a week of pleading with my "conservative" friends, to no avail again.
Why don't they get it? It only took me a couple of years after I turned voting age to see how rotten and corrupt the system is, how a vote for the Rep and Dem for Prez was the "wasted vote" that they love to reference, how the media has become the mouthpiece for the one party system spreading lies and propaganda while pretending to be "left" and "right" to cover all bases....etc.
I wonder ...why were we blessed (or cursed?) with such discernment, while others it seems do not have the capacity to break free from the matrix. And I mean some really good, smart people!
So frustrating.

The fears about Baldwin's religion are overblown

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Very clever!

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Thanks for your kind words, Qwerk.
Several people I know, who opposed RP in the primaries, have now told me they wished they had supported him, as it is so obvious how right he was. We've gotta strike while the iron's hot, and keep Dr Paul's name and ideas out there for all if those just now begining to wake up.

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Not All Atheists Are as Well Adjusted As Me

We have cause to be resentful, I suppose, about a culture that visits us regularly with scorn and opprobrium, and plenty of us were warped as children by rogue shamans, so I can certainly understand the enmity toward theism that is occasionally displayed on these fora. To a great extent, I share it. I think that theism and statism are manifestations of the mental and emotional disorder known as collectivism, and that it leaves the vast majority of its victims fully functional, and, in many cases, quite pleasant company.

This Atheist Fanboy Pothead Polygamist has no quarrel whatsoever with Mr Baldwin's theism. I take him at his word when he says that he supports the letter of the Constitution.

That's good enough for me.

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we should have a beer together

north florida here.

Liberty University scares the hell out of me, but I do take Chuck at his word on the Constitution.

Evangelicals tend to respect us Mormons very little;

...about as much as they respect you atheists: so, I can understand where you are coming from. I respect all persons of good will and welcome all to fight along side me for our common interests. I've particularly enjoyed your contributions, Prof, to conversations here that have done much to help educate people.

Hell, so-called "good Christian people" chased my people across the entire U.S., and even out of the country entirely, only to then send the U.S. Army to occupy our territory. So-called "good Christians" stood by (or participated) while my people were raped, murdered, and had all manner of violence perpetrated against them...all because we have a different (and dare I say more rational) understanding of God and because we dared to practice polygamy.

For those two things, we were worthy of scorn and death at the hands of so-called polite Christian society. In one state, the governor declared we were to be exterminated, and in fact it was legal to kill Mormons in Missouri well into the 20th century as a result of Gov. Boggs' Extermination Order.

The Republican party itself was founded, in part, to drive my people out of existence. Yet I was able to vote for Ron Paul, a Republican, knowing that party history, and party affiliation, are meaningless in the end. My vote was for Ron Paul, not a party or a platform of a party.

A few years ago it looked like the Constitution Party might be taken over by the hardcore evangelical protestants. Perhaps the influx of Ron Paul supporters can help prevent that. There is a faction of the CP membership that hates Catholics, hates Mormons, and pretty much everyone else. I do not believe Mr. Baldwin is among those, nor is Mr. Phillips, the CP's founder and also a friend of Dr. Paul's.

I am hopeful that in time the CP platform can be tempered and maybe resemble the USTP platform of the early days.

Be that as it may, I vote for the man and the message, not the party, and Chuck Baldwin is the right man with the right message.

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I Don't Respect Mormons

at all, and having been Catholic for 23 years before receiving Jesus Christ as my Saviour, I respect them even less. However, that is immaterial. I believe in religious liberty for those I don't respect as much as in my own. If I can hinder YOUR religious liberty, when you get the steering wheel, you can inhibit mine. I'd rather both of us have freedom, and Chuck Baldwin is of the same mindset.

So you're a bigot then?

I can respect someone without agreeing with their religion. Very sad that you cannot. You do not have to like someone's ideas to give them basic respect that should be due all persons in a civilized society.

Jesus Christ is my Savior, too, and I suspect he does not like people who claim his name to go around disrespecting people. We commonly call it the golden rule.

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Yes, I

don't respect things I strongly oppose. Do you?

I don't respect heretics. Do you?

I don't respect child abusers. Do you? Or are you a bigot?

But whether or not I respect those I strongly disagree with, they have constitutional rights, such as religious liberty, that I will defend.

BTW, Jesus didn't respect everyone. He even called names and hurled harsh insults at times.

Especially considering

well.. the sad reality.
If Ron Paul thinks he's ok, so do I.

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'Would you be free men or slaves?'
Restore the Republic.

'Would you be free men or slaves?'
Restore the Republic.

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Chuck Is Dave

Chuck is Dave. Dave is Ron Paul. We are Ron Paul.
For Freedom, Prosperity, and Peace.

WWRVF (Who Would Ron Vote For)

Baldwin '08

The Corrupt Fear Us.
The Honest Support Us.
The Courageous Join Us.

President Ron Paul 2012.

I like him because he puts

The principles of the Constitution first.

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Ha, ya beat me to it.. thanks

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Thank you

This should make it clear to anyone accusing Baldwin of being a Christian bigot.

In my observation; some posters here seem to HATE Christians more than they LOVE Freedom.

Well, I would at least go so

Well, I would at least go so far as to say that they fear religious and moral trivia more than a Police State. Which is, I must say, disturbing.

SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States

SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States

Baldwin is good enough for me.

I'm supporting Baldwin for President and BJ Lawson for the House. Hey, I don't agree 100% with everything he is for, but I didn't with Ron Paul either. But they are 99% better than Obama or McCain.

Let's not bicker back and forth who is better or worse. It only lets the others win, and they are. We need to organize and motivate people to vote for SOMEONE.

Up until now, there has been no candidate to rally behind. Ron Paul has given us our liberty orders and it's up to us to get the word out that Chuck is our man!

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A great empire, like a great cake, is most easily diminished at the edges. - Ben Franklin

I Don't Agree With

Myself 100% of the time :-)

Baldwin may not be perfect in everybody's eyes, but he is not part of the Republicrat system. He is against the New World Order, the Fed, the UN, etc. He is for limited gov't, gun rights, free speech, free religion, etc.

Ron Paul supports him for good reason. If we can get 5-10% to vote for Baldwin, it will send a loud message and recruit more for the Liberty Revolution.

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'Would you be free men or slaves?'
Restore the Republic.

'Would you be free men or slaves?'
Restore the Republic.

Sweet!

thanks for posting....
wow - wonderful ......
I keep liking CB more and more -
baldwin 08