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Does anyone here actually still believe the government is in charge?

I'm just checking. If you think the government is in charge please post and several of us will cordially and pleasantly explain and give many references that will cure you of that outdated preconception. There are two families in charge of the western world and a few thousand people working for them directly. The rest of us, governments included, are their sheep. Please ask away, challenge, get mad, but read and watch what we show you and you WILL be free.



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soup is cooking like the Clinton days.

YES ;politics as usual.
says

You mean the Cecil Rhodes scholar right?

He loved Dr Quigley. Dr Quigley clarified what patriotism means. Service to the lords.

There is a corporation owned

There is a corporation owned by the IMF that is acting like government that has been in charge for quite some time. And it gains jurisdiction over the people because the people ignorantly contract with it by their use of it's SSNs and TINs.

How many here have ever taken the time to read the Social Security Act of 1935? http://www.ssa.gov/history/35act.html What does it describe? What is created when one contracts with it and is entrusted with it's number? Who is the beneficiary noted in the Act? Who does the number belong to?

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Financial crisis>
Iraq War>
9/11>
43rd Administration>

banking cartel = lies

One upside of the current crisis is that the monster finally shows its face and can be demolished

Defend the Constitution!

Rockefellers & Rothschilds

Rockefellers are the main family running the show here in the US
Rothschilds are running the show for Europe
Those 2 are the tip of the pyramid
My grandad was telling me that 15 years ago

VOTE CHUCK BALDWIN

A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.

No it is not the government...

It is the man behind the curtain, and all his clonies. When we find out who they are, only then can we fix the problem.

we know who they are

their day is coming

Contact me MikeLawson....

I really want to know who the scumbags are please. You can contact me here or at tessielace@aol.com

Nope.

and haven't been for a while.

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How does JP Morgan fit into the picture...

They just bought WuMu out. Are they a part of the secret ruling elite?

Yes JP Morgan is a big part of it

They are the private bank that the illegal fed can launder its drug money through.

Money

Our dollars are Federal Reserve Notes and this is the legal tender according to congress. Does this mean that every transaction is fed owned and operated thus anything we think we own is really property of the fed?

“Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - Bastiat

In a sense yes

Because every dollar is a loan and until all the interest is paid, they could attempt to argue that they own your stuff.
The fact is if all debts were paid, there would be no FRNs in circulation at all. But the debt itself is a scam and a deception. Ask the guy who built your house if he got paid. The "debt" is fiction. They have been building the fiction for centuries. Since 1971, it has become a complete fantasy.

So if I don't really own anything

and everything I have purchased is really stolen property if I try to keep it, what is the purpose of continuing to pay my bills/mortgage if I am trying to dismantle a system I am so entwined in? Yes, I will be free when shtf but am I wasting my time now by propping up this evil system?

“Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - Bastiat

but in a shtf scenario

and things turn violent, will any of this matter considering that our national debt will never be paid of in my lifetime and this country will fall apart if the bankers tried to reclaim thier property.

“Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - Bastiat

If the american people refuse to play thier game

and demand sound money, wouldn't this break down the system and cause a shtf scenario thus making a huge majority of the populous criminals because they dare go against their government despite how honorable their cause may be? Just wondering

“Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - Bastiat

Nobody's going against the government

its the cartel we want. I don't think the government people enjoy being slaves any more than the rest of us. They get killed quicker.

I agree... look at what happened to

Kennedy.

MLK

Huey Long
Abe Lincoln
Saddam Hussein
Andrew jackson (failed attempt)
and the list goes on

could've fooled me

cause they sure "make" a lot of money dealing with them.

“Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - Bastiat

a long time ago it was a partnership

now its a hostage situation.

So it ultimatley doesn't matter

whether or not we continue to play their game because the bankers own everything and will do anything in their power to stay in control.

“Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - Bastiat

Isn't continuing to pay your bills

propping up the system because we are dealing with their money. Thus, the only way to fully break from the system is to dismantle the current government that condones these acts and start anew. I can't imagine the scene this would create if it happened, but it would be beautiful.

“Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - Bastiat

NO!! They are a bunch of weaklings

and theres only a few thousand of them. we could eliminate them overnight.

After this past week

I think it pretty obvious who runs the country. It's not Congress and it's not the executive branch. It's Henry Paulson's buddies that have bought and paid for Barney Frank, Chris Dodd and Nancy Pelosi.
 
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OK, so now that we all know its not the government

can we start organizing the battle of bohemian grove?

Hey, let's crash the party..........

"Observe the masses,and do the opposite."

"Observe the masses,and do the opposite."

"It will be a freak show alright"............

"Observe the masses,and do the opposite."

"Observe the masses,and do the opposite."