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UPDATED 1/12---VIDEO: FOREWARNED... WHY MILITIAS ARE NEEDED >>>>>NOW!!!<<<<

PLEASE ---watch this short video... and then watch it again....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQXQfJ9Ge6A

Then IMMEDIATELY do two things....

1) make a list of what YOU would need to start your own.

2) Go to these two posts and read them well ..and good(print them if you can! )
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/46983
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48592

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Bonus step show this video to at least 3 people you know and trust..ask them to join you.Pick an easy name for your 'new' group... Now you have your core group, enlarge it as slowly or quickly as you can. Be wise and careful... but most important-- work together as a team to prepare.

Post your "new teams group" suggestions and ideas here for getting ready.....(ie water, food, storage, ammo, homemade "stuff" , etc...

>>>>>>>>>>>UPDATED!!!!!!!!!<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
here are some valuable links that have been suggested ....

Please be proactive and take action.... to not do so is to sign a death warrant for your nation... and quite possibly your self..
http://www.constitution.org/mil/mil_us.htm

http://www.meetupalliance.com/Constitutional_Compliance

http://www.committeesofsafety.org/ NEW JUST ADDED!!




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HERE IS AN UPDATE....

THIS WAS NOT AVAILABLE (or not known) when this thread was made..

I have added it to the main thread...

http://www.committeesofsafety.org/

please check this out..and join it for the safety of your family..and our nations future...

I voted for Bush because I watched TV and believed

it. I was uninformed....duh.

Now I am telling everyone the truth and helping them become truth based instead of lie based.

I suggest that the concept of a militia serves the cabal more than it serves the needs of the citizens.

The cabal needs groups to "use' to serve their propaganda purposes. I assure you they are ready for a militia and probably have their own created militia which they will use to serve their needs.

These folks already control EVERYTHING...you disagree?

You stand on your own telling the truth. People start to be like you and stand on their own and tell the truth.

As far as I'm concerned we owe a debt to the gun owners because the threat of their arms has kept us safe from this government.

The cabal would LOVE to see people in a militia format...they would have a media field day....and they would win.

It would actually help their cause....think about it...they certainly do. You think they're going to be caught off guard?

As above they have anything you do fully planned for and will turn it against us.

Stand on your own and tell the truth. Have your gun and have it loaded and tell everyone the truth.

You start making emotional decisions and you are just working for them.

The reason for the RP movement's success was everyone was working on their own.

THEIR IS NO DEFENSE against independent action....none. It is impossible to plan for and impossible to stop.

There are a host of easily executed choices for them to defend their interests from any type of coordinated effort.

People who think Fox is real change when they learn the truth. That is how we win. Millions of us spread out, unpredictable, doing the ONE thing they FEAR the most. Telling the truth.

Their entire damn world is built on a lie...their greatest enemy the one thing that will bring them to their knees is the truth and well know it.

Unify

you mean they would love to see people standing up for what they

believe?? Like Ron Paul? Like true patriots? Look it shows us in the
Constitution how to stay free, and keep a free nation/state!!!

WHAT ABOUT THE WORD NECESSARY DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND!!

"A well regulated militia is necessary to the security of a free state."

Constitution of the United States

If you keep eliminating parts of the Constitution that you don't agree with...how much longer will it take you to start to agree with liberals... communists and socialists???

"Like Ron Paul? Like true

"Like Ron Paul? Like true patriots?"

I wasn't aware Ron Paul was part of a militia. He wears a nice suit and a tie, not a ghillie suit and an AK-47.

Dr. Paul is also more softspoken than any of us, and more committed to nonviolence. I'm not saying nonviolence is the answer to everything, but there is a time to take a stand physically. We aren't at that point.

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Support the Constitution of the United States

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Look at an active forum post

titled, The Security of a Person posted by FreeManOnLand. The video is long but has a very relevant activist concept: common law corps of Peace Officers,
check it out, seems an interesting legal extension of the militia idea -- at least in Canada; maybe here too.

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The most effective

The most effective resistance in any situation is individual,independent and, for all intent and purposes, invisible. The last thing a real resistance fighter would want is to be connected to another fighter or group, to have the possibility of detection, betrayal or coerced informant within such a connection.

While I have nothing against militias, per say, I personally see a real danger in being associated with such groups if I am ever to be called upon to resist tyranny; the reasons should be obvious, but perhaps not. If it ever comes to the place where open resistance is necessary, then you do not want to be known, believe me that is the absolute last thing you would want.

There should be no connections, no information that links you to another person or group of people who are known in terms of resistance. Once more, it is vital to maintain the stance of compete anonymity if such a stage is reached within the political arena, in this or any other country. You do not want to be associated with street protest or other demonstrations if you feel that at some point in the future you may be called upon to resist, this sounds odd, but you don't want the authorities to associate either your name or your face to anyone.

During a "crack-down" the first people who are arrested are those with known associations which, by the way, will also always endager your immediate family memebers even if they are not associated with such groups or even share in the same political views as you.

In order to be completely effective, it is vital to appear to be a compliant, normal, "law-abiding" citizen; continuing to work, be productive and generally non-descript in every possible manner during the day while leading a very careful life of resistance during the night hours. It is also important to know that there will need to be various levels of resistance, some will not be called to physically resist but will play an equally important role to the cause of Freedom and Liberty by being "paper-resisters", in other words creating massive amounts of paper-work for the bureauracy to deal with, misleading, misinformation and rabbit-hole paper tricks. There are others who must be infiltrators into the very heart of Leviathan, working on the inside to create confusion, misdirection and to allow for information to seep out about the Leviathan's plans and operations.

Remember, the best counter to tyranny is one that tyrants cannot discern or identify. Even being on the DP, talking about this type of information could be considered potentially damaging to our cause. I use three levels on encryption and an offshore proxy server to surf the web even when I come onto the DP. Even my emails are encryted. It is vital to remain unknown in every aspect of your life, invisible to prying eyes and ears.

REMEMBER THE WAR OF THE FLEA!

http://www.1776solution.blogspot.com

I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. Barry Goldwater

http://militantjeffersonian.com

"Men do not willingly read unpalatable truths of themselves. The People like those best who fool them most, by pandering to their vices and flattering their foibles" Raphael Semmes

Well said.

I do admire the militias for their heart. I've always been a loner though it's just the way i am.

"Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multicultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstances of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat."

"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it."

Great plan for the self-directed,

and we need more self direction to be sure, but I think there are many who will never find it within them unless they are part of a group. At some point of critical mass (like the crowds that tore down the Berlin Wall) it is beneficial to belong to a group. Until that point is reached, however, there is danger in numbers. I fully agree.

New Hampshire and Ecuador.

Republicae's picture

I agree, my experience has

I agree, my experience has taught me that insurgency and counter-insurgency is not very successful when it comes to large operations. It is better to use a small weeding spade than a bull dozer in such cases...

http://www.1776solution.blogspot.com

I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. Barry Goldwater

http://militantjeffersonian.com

"Men do not willingly read unpalatable truths of themselves. The People like those best who fool them most, by pandering to their vices and flattering their foibles" Raphael Semmes

first off...may I say that Iove that quote... I wish all

Pattriots..and Ron Paul Republicans would remember it..and memorize it ..and not just the words but the meaning!!

...and second of all I agree with you.... Should we ever need our militia to wake up and save our nation... it will only be successful in the beginning at least.. by taking on small operations... much like gurilla warfare.....

no full on head to head contact against the "PTB" so to speak...

..at least not until we have more support and numbers....

First of all I think asking

First of all I think asking others to form Militias is a last resort in my opinion and is up to the individual if he/she believes they are in that position. Remember that doing so will escalate things dramatically for you and your families. Courage and Honor will always prevail and I believe if you are doing with those values, above fear and hate, positive things can come from such actions.

I would say that massive boycotts of large Corporations that are in bed with Gov't is the best solution. We are living in fascist Plutocracy with Corporations in control of Gov't so I believe we need to weaken the Corporations first and then take back our Gov't though electing third party candidates who pledge to take our cause to congress. Profit reduction or destruction is more powerful than militia's, at least that's what I think.

"Americans need to take a Democrap and wipe it's Republican from the history books of this once great Nation"
-Concerned Citizen

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."

you.. know lets reevaluate what you said.....

First of all I think asking others to form Militias is a last resort in my opinion and is up to the individual if he/she believes they are in that position. Remember that doing so will escalate things dramatically for you and your families.

So here is my question to you...if the below statement is true..then is the necessity of a free state, or having one, an option for you?

It seems to me that every single Ron Paul supporter who loves liberty and freedom and this nation will immediately form, or join a local militia. To not do so is admitting that you do not agree with the Constitution..or you think following it is an option, not a requirement. IF MORE OF US HAD DONE WHAT IS STATED BELOW I GUARANTEE WE --AMERICA-- WOULD NEVER HAVE DETERIORATED INTO THE NATION IT IS TODAY!! ...the gov. would still fear its citizens...and congress/house of Reps. would listen to the will of the people...

"A well regulated militia is necessary to the security of a free state."

Constitution of the United States

Call it

a Civilian Security Force.

No, wait, ObombA has already taken that one...

"Tyrants fear nothing more than insubordination"

"It's just one big club... and WE ain't in it!"

Don't call it a "militia".

Don't call it a "militia".

Do what the Leftists do--change the word when the media marginalizes it. Especially since the Leftists are the ones who marginalized "militia".

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Support the Constitution of the United States

SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States

I recently had a police encounter

I won't go into the details. Suffice it to say, at the end of the encounter I said "Officer, may I please ask you a question about some things that are on a lot of peoples minds right now?" He said "Sure." I said "There are a lot of people concerned that we are going headlong into a Homeland Security police state, and people are getting pretty freaked out about it, and about many of these new laws being passed, not just the patriot act, but the Military Commissions Act of 2006 which suspends Habeas Corpus, the National Defense Authorization Act of 2007 which suspends Posse Comitatus and allows US troops to operate on US soil against US citizens, and NSPD51/HSPD20 which the president just arbitrarily signed into law with no 2/3 approval by congress, giving himself the ability to suspend the Constitution for anything as little as a stock market crash.

He said "well, I don't know about "all" of those but we really aren't allowed to talk about politics". I went right ahead and said "I know, but you can listen! You police need to know that We the People know you are looking out for us, and that we know when it comes down to it, you have our backs. I have always said that the State Patrol conducts themselves like Paladins, and you sir proved me right on that tonight by calling me "sir", and treating me respectfully, and I thank you for that". I went on to say "What you officers need to understand is that we have your back too. All you have to do is ask us. We'd rather be the ones to help you in times of crisis than have you resort to Federal help or Federal control should something major happen and we lose our Constitution."

I don't remember the next part exactly, but it was something along the lines of "Well I'll certainly keep that in mind and thank you. That is good to know!" His eyes were pretty lit up to be honest. I could tell that this type of thing is something that the police are obviously discussing amongst each other, and that my words really had him thinking.

Mind you, when he searched me, he found items on my person like my pink delegate button from the state convention, my delegate badge, my Constitution, my Ron Paul button, a Gadsen Flag patch and 2 Navy Jack patches, all with "Don't Tread on Me" on them, etc.

Setting brush fires in the minds of men.

Oh yeah! In Washington, we have a major ferry system. DHS is not in charge of doing the security checks, looking for bombs, dogs sniffing, etc. Our State Patrol is. I have heard of DHS people in Texas doing this work for $10.00/hr. and being really rude, ripping people out of their vehicles, throwing their stuff all over the street, and violating civil rights. I've not seen anything like that behavior here, but I don't take the ferry's often.

I don't often sound like it, but there is hope folks.

I agree.. and the more police, expolice, military, ex military

etc... that we can get... is very cool... If that officer did good.. perhaps you can put a good word in for him at his station.. talk to his superior.. I believe , that just by doing that.. he may continue acting in a professional way... rather than sliding down into the behavior pattern that is all too common with police these days...

BTW.... you seem well versed in the basics of our current constitutional decline... perhaps you should put together a small 5-15 min speach.. that highlights the problems of our current system(the things that you mentioned) and a 2 part solution.. one that would be something like organizing into local groups...(ie militias..or something) and a true longer term solution.. calling or asking for your audience to only support and vote for local, state, and national politicians who are committed to restoring our liberties, and rights that we have recently lost... you could get speaking engagements at police dinners, PTA meetings, local organizations... kiwans, etc... This could/would generate alot of potential allies for the future...

I would hope...

That like our serving troops where the support for Ron Paul and the Constitution ran high, it would also be so for our police.

Sad to say, but I think that the police, in order to follow the orders from above must do as they're told and if they trample our Consitutional rights...so be it.

Family members in the know of law enforcement, would do well to remind them of what's at stake down the pike and remind them that they too are American citizens with Constitutional responsibilities first.

"Bad men cannot make good citizens. It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains. A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, is incompatible with freedom." Patrick Henry

I'd say start with neighborhood watch meetings/groups

The government and police actually endorse neighborhood watch and provide materials for you. You could even get an officer to come down and talk at your local meeting with a little effort.

It's a great to go down your local police station/city hall or go online and print out neighborhood watch material on crime and getting a community to work together to stop it.

From there simple earthquake/hurricane/terrorism/disaster kits and food. Then finally after you've had member for a while you can start sending out info about the NRA/GOA without forcing it on them like a militant group.

The important thing is to use the system that exists to get as far as you and not fight against it. When the time comes to fight against it, everyone will know, but if they are not prepared to work together it won't matter.

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Great Advice

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Be careful Jdayh

you might be targeted like I was last night as being a fearmonger! :)

Where?? Was it here on DP? ... the only person who would

ever say that is someone who is either out of touch with reality (our current reality) or an agent..(and for the record their are conscious agents, and unconscious ones --the conscious ones are getting paid or compensated for what they do... the unconscious ones are not aware of what they do...you can tell them as someone who will not or can not have a conversation that leads to truth .. they do not like the truth..and/or are afraid of it.. and if you push the issues with these ones they will most likely get angry or attempt to "get revenge" on you for telling them or showing them the truth... I see it here from time to time.. People that are not fully awake.. people that have not seen the big picture.. the ones who still do not realize the depth of corruption our nation has fallen to..(or who just don't want to) These ones will attack intelligent common sense posts like this one... and others.

for the record .. you are not a fear monger... :))

It really happened

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/70374

Obama has been vetted over
On October 24th, 2008 aziza says:
Obama has been vetted over and over again. Read my comment to your co-fearmonger Debra62 below. It is stuff like this that at times gives the DailyPaul no credibility.

It was quite upsetting the whole thing really. Only because I don't post much and when I found that clip I was excited to be able to bring it here and share and then this person I never talked to goes off and says I was a fearmonger! Ahhh talk about being pissed! Oh well done and over with now but yeh thought it was funny when I seen this posted by someone I have talked to. :)

keep this in mind...

people who are either open or closet obama supporters.. would only say that... this site is full of possible predictions.. each of them laced with fear.. I would not take it seriously.. :)

I did at the time but over it now.

I also realize that people are probably feeling out of control with everything happening and maybe they just need to vent. But hey its all good.

An interesting philosophical point to consider

is the distinction between civil disobedience and civil militancy: civil disobedience traditionally lays oneself down in opposition while armed militancy would defend self-preservation in response to an unethically committed act of lethal aggression by the state.

Currently, it would seem civil disobedience is appropriate, although the unconstitutional Patriot Act etc increases elements of personal risk

while

i was watching that one i seen this one also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRhbCvGH-B4&feature=related

Jdayh- Info

I received this from Jon Roland from Constitution.org

The defeat of the Financial Markets Bill in the U.S. House of Representatives a few minutes ago is likely to result in a world depression that will be well on its way by election day. It is a critical time that demands the revival of the constitutional militia movement, (http://www.constitution.org/mil/cmm.htm) and the organization and mustering of units everywhere. We could soon be seeing severe hardship and civil disorder, far more than officials can handle, or will even try to handle except with violent suppression. Militia is needed to keep public order and defend against terrorism and crime during the downturn. The temptation will be for everyone to fend for himself and his own family, but there is no defense unless we also defend our communities as a whole.

To facilitate communications I have set up the Constitutional Compliance Meetup Alliance (http://www.meetupalliance.com/Constitutional_Compliance, and urge local units to set up meetup groups and join the Alliance, then elect committees of safety (http://www.constitution.org/mil/cos/cos_setup.htm) in each county to provide civilian leadership of units in that county.

Please spread this message widely.

thanks for that link....

I am telling people NOW IS THE TIME TO ORGANIZE....do not wait for all hell to break loose... start w/3 people... and go from there.. you can learn how to do this from some of these links.. (I will consolidate them into the main thread soon.) ...

BUT FOR A BASIC PLAN GO HERE.. AND JUST BEGIN.....
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/64588#comment-707659

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any more suggesttions??? There are over 100 comments..

but what about suggestions to forming a local militia?? does anyone have any more suggestions??

Post your "new teams group" suggestions and ideas here for getting ready.....(ie water, food, storage, ammo, homemade "stuff" , etc...