How It Will Start
Submitted by beelzebush66 on Sat, 09/27/2008 - 18:30Mark Koernke has been around the patriot community for years and is FED up . Remember when the Clintonistas tried to frame him for OKC ? Well ,this is his take on how the war will begin . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPxyd3HC12I
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Winston
Please call Mark on Monday and ask him about the things you're concerned about here tonight ( 512-646-1984) .I'll guarantee you'll get on the air . I'll be listening .Don't forget to identify yourself as Winston .
I have some doubts
Ruby Ridge
Waco
Oklahoma City
9/11
Iraq War
weren't these all government sponsored terrorism that killed innocents and there was no mass uprising. I've heard people talk about the American bloodshed once started will never stop-but I've seen over the past two decades egregious harm caused against thousands of innocents and still no uprising. What's the deal?
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flouride
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tell me about it
Am I really just sleepwalking through this life?
Not only flouride, but also hollywood/sports entertainment, do nothing doodads and hope crushing debt that most americans face.
I just bought a flouride filter for my house.
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wow...
I am seeing people I respect talking nuts and bolts......
and when I go out to my truck and drive around town, I see "pleasant vally sunday"
the disparity is surreal.....
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You guys really want to defeat The Empire?
First of all, you never attack your opponent's strong point. The jackboots want nothing better than you attack them with arms. As a matter of fact, if you don't do it, they will probably execute a false flag op. If you want to destroy these guys, take 50% of what you are spending at the gun store and buy gold (by all means arm yourself for self defense, just don't delude yourself thinking you can defeat The Empire with your pop-guns). The enemy's weak point is its economic, not its military. As long as they got money to buy guns, tanks, planes, missiles, bombs and soldiers, we cannot prevail with violence. Cut their economic throat, then we are talking.
The State seems to be
The State seems to be cutting its own throat, killing the only source of power it has: Fiat Money. Fiat Money, fortunately, has a very definite inherent terminal life-span. The DEBT STANDARD is rapidly approaching the end of its viability, as they continue to toss mounds of physical and digital fiat money onto the already massive mountain of debt, it will increasingly weaken every structure within The State.
Rags make Paper; Paper makes Money; Money makes Banks;Banks make Loans; Loans make Beggars; Beggars make Rags
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YES! corruption has destroyed
many a government.
BTW - How do you think the Colonists would have done
against England without the help of (those surrender monkeys) The French? Tell me: Who will send us the arms necessary (high explosives, anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons) to win the second American Revolution? Admittedly, we have the small arms necessary.
I think there are many countries
that would help us. Maybe we've been systematically demonizing and injecting puppet gvts into them for years. There are a few holdouts, think about it.
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have you heard of guerrila
have you heard of guerrila warefare? do you even know what that is?
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
"Ineptocracy: a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confisc
Ever play those hex based board war games ?
(like the ones from Avalon Hill). I remember one about the Russian Front. They had little square cardboard markers designating infantry, artillary, tanks, etc. This one had a little marker for partisans (Russian) and SS (German) units. One of the rules was there could not be a partisan unit within two hexes of an SS unit.
WinstonSmith
Is a pervert and is scared of rats,he has been ever since he was a child .
Yes but
Violent means will give violent freedom.
Mohandas K. Gandhi
Oh I assure you a good mind
Oh I assure you a good mind and a good rifle is all you will ever need. remember the weakest part of a tank is the gas truck that fills it up. No nation will ever conquer a highly motivated millita due to that reason. Iraqi's are still fighting back after 8 years and WE in our might and muscle have failed to stop them. As a matter of fact two puny countries have won the war against us and have brought our economy to its knees. Bin Ladin IF he did the trade center is laughing his butt off right now because the pot is boiling and the lid is about to boil over. Maybe they will wake up and decide they have went to far and give us back our freedoms.
I beg to differ the lebanese
I beg to differ the lebanese chased the isaeli military out of lebanon with suicide gunmen and maltov cocktails....
A exe marine the other day blurted out Obama isn't going to get his gun basicly saying he will kill anyone that tries to take his guns. I was suprised by his responce because he is retired military and I assumed he was with the system. We talked about guns and he gave a good boy when I told him my gun was a M1A. I don't think these fools will succeed in their plans at all and to be honest we are on the verge of turning into Iraq real soon and any nation that tries to restore order will have their economy go bankrupt as well.
We need to have faith and if all else fails make sure we do the right thing because we know the sheeple will not unless they wake up also. Hell martial law and food shortages could be the best thing for freedom ever. This depression is either going to create a bunch of nazi dick heads or its going to make a bunch of pissed off freedom lovers. Plus you know they are going to wake up when the government tells them the old will have to die for societies sake. I know they are not going to take my mother id definetly kill a whole platoon over that.
Bullshit
In 30 years I ain't seen a raghead Mujadeen without an RPG slung over his shoulder. Suicide gunman? Suicide bomber maybe. Got Semtex?
Don't need semtex
plastic explosives can be made from match heads and Vaseline and initiated by the airbag initiator from a car in the junk yard. Improvised weaponry is one of my areas of training.
Funny, I don't see matchheads on this list.....
Explosive Name Abbreviation Detonation
Velocity (m/s) Density
(g/cm³)
Aromatic explosives
1,3,5-trinitrobenzene TNB 7,450 1.6
1,3,5-Triazido-2,4,6-trinitrobenzene TATNB 7,300 1.71
Trinitrotoluene TNT 6,900 1.6
Trinitroaniline TNA 7,300 1.72
Tetryl 7,570 1.71
Picric Acid TNP 7,350 1.7
Dunnite 7,150 1.6
Methyl Picrate 6,800 1.57
Ethyl Picrate 6,500 1.55
Picryl Chloride 7,200 1.74
Trinitrocresol 6,850 1.62
Lead styphnate 5,200 2.9
Triaminotrinitrobenzene TATB 7,350 1.80
Aliphatic explosives
Methyl nitrate 8,000 1.21
Nitroglycol 8,000 1.48
Nitroglycerine NG 7,700 1.59
Mannitol hexanitrate 8,260 1.73
Pentaerythritol Tetranitrate PETN 8,400 1.7
EDNA 7,570 1.65
Nitroguanidine NQ 8,200 1.7
Cyclotrimethylenetrinitramine RDX 8,750 1.76
Cyclotetramethylene Tetranitramine HMX 9,100 1.91
Hexanitrohexaazaisowurtzitane HNIW or CL-20 9,400 2.04
Tetranitroglycoluril Sorguyl 9,150 1.95
Octanitrocubane ONC 10,100 2.0
Organic Explosives
Acetone Peroxide AP 5,300 1.18
Inorganic explosives
Mercury Fulminate 4,250 3.0
Lead azide 4,630 3.0
Silver azide 4,000 4.0
Ammonium Nitrate AN 5,270 1.3
Explosive Name Abbreviation Detonation
Velocity (m/s) Density
(g/cm³)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_explosive_detonation_v...
The main ingredient for match heads
safety matches anyway, is potassium chlorate. It is currently used in several black powder substitutes such as Pyrodex. It was also used extensively during WWI as an explosive for hand grenades and mortar rounds. The proper mixture is 75% (by volume) with 25% Vaseline. it has a blast velocity wave equal to approximately 80% nitro dynamite.
If you want to make something with a little more oomph, then you need nitric acid. If you don't have any, it is easy to distill from a solution of sulfuric acid with potassium nitrate dissolved into it. A simple distilling operation can be put together with a couple of bottles with thick glass like the old coke bottle and some duct tape. You are an amateur talking your shit to a professional. It is easy to see that you should be able to observe your tonsils as far up your arse as your head is protruding.
Match heads
I'm impressed! I haven't heard anyone talk about match head bombs since I was 15 years old. We are saved! (NOT)
I could care less about smoneone being impressed
I have been in enough third world shit holes over the years and have had to apply that training. There are certainly more powerful explosives that can be improvised like using ammonium nitrate, powdered aluminum and nitromethane properly mixed to get something equal to C-4. I don't make things like this now, but I know how if need be. Match heads and Vaseline is just a simple easily produced explosive with limited capabilities. I hope the need never arises, but if it does I will not be suffering from the same form of rectal optosis that afflicts you.
You couldn't
see your head in a mirror cause it's stuck so far up your arse. So what have you done today other than try to start shit on the Daily Paul.
Oh and I'm asking because I'm starting shit with your junky ass, cause I see what you are trying to do here.
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lol..... another jzneff..
lol..... another jzneff.. has all the answers before the questions are even asked.. I bet there were fools like him telling the colonials.. ohh don't fight the british they have superior muskets!
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
"Ineptocracy: a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confisc
Anyone who cannot see that the difference
between the disparity in arms between opressor and opressed in 1775 Vs. the disparity that exists today is an imbecile, plain and simpleton.
weapontry is only part of
weapontry is only part of the equation.. evidently you have not been in the military.. the imbecile is you!
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
"Ineptocracy: a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confisc
I'm sure The Imperium
is shitting itself at the thought of all you tough guys buying MREs, camo outfits and .223 amo down at the gun store (the store cameras are probably wired straight to Homeland Security).
Speaking on a purely
I am a peace-loving man, but I am also a student of history. Speaking on a purely hypothetical basis, there are numerous examples, both historic and modern, of ill-equipped guerrilla insurgencies that have won against far superior forces. The key to such successes is always maintaining supportive relationships with the non-combatives with the population of a country. As usual, when an internal conflict begins, a certain percentage of government forces will naturally side with the people of a country, transferring both superior weapons and training to the insurgents. Additionally, it is natural that there will also be a substantial transfer of weapons through commandeering weapon supply chains, manufacturers and through strategic strikes.
In such hypothetical insurgencies it is of primary importance that there are few, if any real connections between insurgents. Small guerrilla bands, perhaps two and at the most three, are extremely effective in sudden and unexpected strikes against the enemy. These units can harry enemy forces, disrupting supplies, and communications and fight a very subversive and protracted war with a great deal of success. It is also vital that there be invisible, independent guerilla fighters who, from all appearances, look as though they remain loyal to the oppressing government while maintaining a relatively normal life, working as everyone else, being a good citizen and neighbor; all the while they lead a very different life by slipping in and out of society into degrees of guerrilla actions. It is also necessary to have such guerrilla agents within various official positions, whether that be on a local level or at a higher level; these can serve as informants, if possible, to the actions being taken by enemy forces, they can also assist in gumming up the bureaucratic system as much as possible and safe without endangering their positions.
The targets however, must always be enemy forces and their collaborators only, never the general population. There is a great deal of difference between guerrilla warfare and what we know as terrorism, terrorists make no distinction between combatants and non-combatants, perhaps this is why terrorists rarely succeed in transferring the support of the population to themselves, they only tend to alienate them. The general population, after all, is the perfect pool for recruits to the cause of the guerilla warrior.
Once again, hypothetically, it would be necessary to target the enemy’s vital infrastructure, most of which would be very, very vulnerable Microwave, communications, radio towers, power supplies, water supplies, food supplies, rail, air, storage facilities of every kind. So, judging from history, even recent history, I do not hold any doubts that such an insurgency could be successful against superior odds.
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A thoughtful analysis
Particularly the part about friendlies in the government forces - however with embedded RFID/surveillance technology it is going to be very difficult to divert arms from the government to the insurgency. There is also the possibility that arms so diverted be remotely rendered inoperable once the diversion is discovered. Attack their weakness - cut their economic throat - end fiat money; It is their lifeblood.
Not really, the fact is that
Not really, the fact is that at the beginning of the conflict there will be, as with any internal conflict, a portion of the armed forces who will immediately transfer their allegiances to the people's cause. So, it would not be a matter of secretively transferring arms, it would be a matter of the initial push against the people. You have brought up an interesting point, one that I raised in my post After the Collapse and that is, with the global fiat monetary system reaching the terminal point of its life span, the likelihood of a protracted war by governments will be increasingly impossible to execute. Fiat Money, as I have said, is the Life-Blood of The State, Kill the Money, Kill the Leviathan.
Rags make Paper; Paper makes Money; Money makes Banks;Banks make Loans; Loans make Beggars; Beggars make Rags
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"Men do not willingly read unpalatable truths of themselves. The People like those best who fool them most, by pandering to their vices and flattering their foibles" Raphael Semmes