Time is limited - Let's collaborate to read the 106 page Discussion Draft
Submitted by cablenewsjunkie on Sun, 09/28/2008 - 14:40
Let's get at least 11 people on the Daily Paul to commit to reading 10 pages of the "Discussion Draft" (bailout bill). If you spot any wording that raises your eyebrows, post it here.
http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/28/news/pdf/firstdraft.pdf
Page #s:
1-10 - ME
11-20 - true_believer
21-30 - Jon Kirkpatrick
31-40 - healthnut4freedom
41-50 - MikeLawson
51-60 - Republican Liberty
61-70 - Anisha
71-80 - samadamscw
81-90 - LibBerte
91-100 - GaleRazorwind, dlind
101-106 - mizrae
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Some great stuff here.
My own (limited) take on this:
http://muddythoughts.blogspot.com/2008/09/analysis-of-bailou...
Part II may not happen now if this stays dead.
Sensible Amendments
Overstock CEO Comments on President Bush's Speech Outlining Bailout Plan
Wednesday September 24, 10:56 pm ET
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Is Something Not Worth Doing Worth Doing Well?' asks Byrne
SALT LAKE CITY, Sept. 24 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Overstock.com, Inc. (Nasdaq: OSTK - News) chairman and CEO Patrick M. Byrne comments on President Bush's September 24, 2008 speech outlining the President's market rescue plan.
Dr. Byrne commented: "This bailout is necessary to save the bacchanal that is our US financial system. However, at the core of the administration's plan is the assumption that Wall Street is worth saving. It is not. For years Wall Street has bossed Washington, DC around like they're hired flunkies, while preying on Main Street businesses and investors. The federal government should use this opportunity to extract from Wall Street concessions that could never be extracted were Washington in its customary subordinate position.
"If American taxpayers are to bailout the Power Elite, they should attach conditions. Taxpayers should share in any upside, and gaping flaws in the current system should be fixed. Towards that end, I believe that any bailout legislation should include at least the following protections:
1. Taxpayers need to share in the upside if the bailout works, to compensate them for the risk that the administration is forcing them to take. This could be accomplished through warrants on shares in the firms being bailed out, such as those Mr. Buffett extracted from Goldman Sachs.
2. The government should impose a tax on those that benefit most from bailout -- Wall Street itself. Perhaps a 0.25% transaction tax on all securities trades is in order? Such a tax would be insignificant to investors, while be largely borne by those that are merely speculators - including those that churn trades in an attempt to manipulate the markets.
3. Bailout or none, the government must fix underlying problems in our capital market. The fixes includes:
a. Reforming our stock settlement system so that trades actually settle promptly, precisely as Congress stipulated in 1934. This can be accomplished by putting in place a market-wide mandatory pre-borrow requirement (like the SEC did in the 30-day July 15, 2008 emergency order that protected the 19 financial institutions);
b. Creating the obligation that if a naked short seller fails to deliver a share, the broker-dealer must force a mandatory buy-in (as is done in civilized countries, such as Canada);
c. Tracking trades cradle-to-grave (rather than net blocks of trades against each other), so that it is obvious who the naked short sellers are and the total amounts they are stealing;
d. Providing regular, timely disclosure of when and how many shares have failed to deliver;
e. Enforcing the rules, including significant monetary penalties and jail time.
"Keynes said that an ocean of productivity can support a bubble of speculation, but an ocean of speculation cannot support a bubble of productivity. Washington has been captured by speculators at the expense of producers. I have long been talking about systemic risk and potential financial crisis (see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIHw7C73s3E for a three- minute video from as early as October 2005). I am proposing specific steps to fix the system. For those that agree with these fixes which protect Main Street Americans, I ask you to sign the electronic petition at http://mainstreetamericans.info."
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080924/law106.html?.v=98
Preliminary Report on pages 71-80
Below is after a second read through. I have to go to bed, and will give analysis in the morning. Some areas for further research are noted if someone wants to take them up...
Questionable terms which may be defined in the bill or elsewhere in law are placed in " "
Special notes of importance that sound fishy or outrageous or are otherwise too important to miss are denoted by one or more *
Questions for further research and/or comments are in ()
SUMMARY:
The first section (125) establishs a new legislative bureaucracy with an unlimited budget, which anyone, including Wall Street CEO's can be appointed to in order to provide Congressional oversight of the Secretary. There is potential for rogue members to act alone, and they can recommend EXPANDING current regulations to ANYONE who 'participates' in the 'financial system.'
The second section (126) makes it illegal to falsely advertise a product as FDIC insured, or that it is insured for more than it really is, and gives the FDIC and other agencies enforcement powers. The language is so bad, that potentially ANY business, even if no FDIC related claim is made, could be construed as breaking this law. (you have to read it to believe it) The FDIC is apparently also given jurisdiction over ANYONE not already under jurisdiction of another federal agency. (very strange, need some definitions there - please read and research)
Page 69 line 12 section 125
Establishes a new entity within the Legislative Branch called the Congressional Oversight Panel
Duties
Review current state of “financial markets” and “regulatory system”
Submit Reports to Congress
Regularly Reports (w/in 30 days of 1st section 101(a) or 102 use, and every 30 days thereafter)
Each use by Sec. of the Act *including contracting and admin
Impact of purchases on “financial markets” and “financial institutions”
Degree of “market transparency” from info on transactions made under Act
Effectiveness of foreclosure mitigation efforts
Effectiveness of minimizing long term costs to taxpayers
Effectiveness of maximizing benefits to taxpayers
Special Report (no later than Jan 20, 2009)
Regulatory Reform
Current state of “regulatory system”
Effectiveness of "regulatory system" overseeing “participants” in the "financial system"
Effectiveness of “regulatory system” protecting consumers
Recommendations for improvement
***including if “participants” currently outside the “regulatory system” should be subject to the “regulatory system”
Rationale for such a recommendation of new inclusion
Gaps in existing consumer protections
5 members, chosen by the Senate and House minority/majority leaders.
4 is a quorum, any number, ***even ONE, can hold a hearing
Chair or majority can call a meeting
**Can appoint and set pay of any employees it wants
Can ‘borrow’ employees from ANY federal department or agency
**Can hire/contract for professional services
Pay - equal to daily equivalent of the annual rate of basic pay for Level I of the Executive Schedule for each day actually worked on the panel. *including travel time
(can someone look up the figures from that pay schedule so we have a firm dollar amount?)
Full-time Federal workers, Congress cannot be paid, given allowances, or benefits for serving on Panel.
(says nothing of part-time emplyees or WHO can be selected to this panel, it is POSSIBLE that Congress could choose the CEO's or other such knuckleheads as members of this Oversight Panel)
Paid travel expenses *including per diem
(see USC 5: ch 57 sub ch 1)
Powers:
as the Panel considers appropriate:
Hold hearings
“sit and act at times and places”
Take testimony
Receive evidence
Administer oaths and affirmations to witnesses
of members AND agents:
anything the Panel can do IF the Panel authorizes them to
**not a specific authorization for a specific act, but a blanket “acting as or in the name of”
to demand AND receive:
**ANY information from ANY other department or agency they deem necessary to carry out section 125. (this section)
to receive and consider all reports submitted to it.
Panel will terminate 6 months after date in section 120.
Funding:
**Any amount necessary - ½ from the House account and ½ from the Senate contingent fund.
(that's right, ANY amount necessary, the Panel can hire ex Wall Street CEO's at millions of dollars to provide 'expert' advice if they choose)
Secretary must reimburse both accounts from the other funds made available to the Secretary by the Act.
Page 76 line 14 section 126
FDIC Authority
Prohibition of falsely advertising any deposit, liability, obligation, certificate, or share as FDIC insured if it is not.
*by using the terms:
“Federal Deposit”
“Federal Deposit Insurance”
“Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation”
and/or
“FDIC” as part of the business name or firm name (person, corporation, partnership, business trust, association, or other business entity)
** OR any combination of "such" terms listed above.
(presumably, no business entity may ever use two or more of the words "Federal", "Deposit", "Insurance", or "Corporation" in its name - for example: "State Farm Insurance Corporation" appears to be illegal now)
*by using any such terms **** “or any other terms, sign, or symbol” as part of an advertisement, solicitation, or other document.
(the way this is worded, ANY term, sign or symbol, FDIC related or not, would be a violation of this section!!!)
No “person” may misrepresent any deposit, liability, obligation, certificate, or share as insured if it is not.
Also prohibited: if above is not insured to the extent claimed
Enforcement authority to appropriate federal banking agency with respect to the violator or any “institution-affiliated party”
If such agency fails to act, FDIC can recommend they act using anything from section 8.
If such agency fails to act within 30 days of receipt of FDIC recommendation, or
provide an acceptable response plan, then FDIC can take the action itself.
FDIC has jurisdiction over:
****“any person other than a person for which another agency is the appropriate Federal banking agency or any institution-affiliated party thereof; and any person that aids or abets a violation of this paragraph by a person described above:
(so if a "person" is not under the authority already of another Federal Banking Agency, then they are under the jurisdiction of the FDIC by default - we need a contextual definition of "person" here. Is this ANY natural individual, or just related to financial institutions and their officers/agents?)
FDIC has authority to:
conduct investigations under section 10(c)
Enforcement actions under subsections (b),(c), (d) and (i)
None of this restricts powers given other agencies or individuals by other laws.
end of page 80 deals with new enforcement order authority under the Act and continues into other pages.
send your congressman to see what the treasury thinks
send your congressman to see what the treasury thinks and how the treasury plans on ignoring so many parts of the Bill
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/09/mussolini-style-corpo...
I read the whole thing
You know what I discovered? I have the uncanny ability to read something and then forget everything that I just read. Amazing huh? What I did come to realize is that this has been sitting on the shelf for years. Theatre is what the last few days have been. A big orchestrated drama. Who amongst public servants after reading this would pass this? Corporate whores and idiots. It is plain to me that this is not good for the people. I say that, but then again, I'm poor and insignificant.
better idea
Why doesn't everyone on this site read the whole 100 pages.
Are you learning impaired? They're taking away your freedom and money and all the effort you can muster is 10 pages?
http://actiontrigger.no-ip.org/
Yes, that would be great if
Yes, that would be great if everyone that helped aggregate this info was able to take the time to read the whole thing. We should all be doing that so that we see for ourselves just what we're up against - how the corruption has been institutionalized and the entitlement-to-power mentality that these people have.
However, I don't think any bill needs to be 106 pages.
And by divying up the work, it encouraged more people to take part in analysis of the "Discussion Draft" than otherwise would have.
I view it as a kind of training exercise for future leaders in the movement.
http://www.votepact.org/
http://opendebates.org/yourrole/petition/index.php
Thanks for volunteering!
You get right on that, kwas, and get back to us with all the salient and pertinent information! We love go-getters like you!!
changed my mind
Actually I now think nobody should read anything.
This bill is evidently a way of screwing you - "it" is not the problem, the problem is that you're owned. So to solve the problem, fix the guys who wrote it, not the bill itself!!!!!
http://actiontrigger.no-ip.org/
It's not exactly casual reading
could you please summarize it for us?
Explore Orthodox Christianity
How about this from Section 101
Not being understood by the American people is that China is the holder
of over $1.4 Trillion of US debt backed by the mortgages on the homes
and property of tens of millions these people which, in essence, makes
the Chinese one of the largest holders of land in the United States, and
which the Chinese government has stated they will protect ‘at all
costs’.
In rapid response to China’s demands that they be granted immediate
access to their American properties to protect their ‘investments’, the
United States is enacting a new law titled the Emergency Economic
Stabilization Act of 2008, and which in Section 101, Paragraph 7:3
chillingly states:
“Designating financial institutions as financial agents of the Federal
Government, and such institutions shall perform all such reasonable
duties related to this Act as financial agents of the Federal Government
as may be required.”
The United States Federal Reserve has further notified the China
Development Bank, the second largest bank in Asia and the main holder of
US mortgage debt instruments, that they will be designated by the US
Secretary of the Treasury as one of the financial institutions protected
by this extraordinary new law, and which, according to these reports,
will empower Chinese policing authorities the right to act as law
enforcement officers in the United States including granting them the
right to evict American citizens from homes whose mortgage debt is held
by China.
Unfortunately for these American people, their own public officials have
totally abandoned them as the American Center for Responsive Politics
has reported that the staggering amount of $2 Billion has been paid by
the perpetrators of this Global financial crisis to US Lawmakers, of
both political parties, to sell out their fellow countrymen as virtual
economic slaves to the all powerful International corporate cartels who
now rule over them.
"This used to be a government of checks and balances. Now it's all checks and no balances." (Gracie Allen for President 1940)
"This used to be a government of checks and balances. Now it's all checks and no balances." (Gracie Allen for President 1940)
wow scary
/Mike
/Mike
Front Fell Off
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcU4t6zRAKg
So, no number, but it's got a name
Per a Market Watch article entitled Text of economic rescue bill official summary, the proposal is called:
THE "EMERGENCY ECONOMIC STABILIZATION ACT OF 2008"
Still no bill with this name as yet, per Thomas.loc.gov.
Sapphira, can you please provide a link that ties the Sec. 101 excerpt with China? Or, is this your interpretation? Just trying to separate opinion and fact, here. Thanks.
Believe me. As much as I would love to I cannot right now...
But I will say this...
This is the reason why last week an announcement came out saying that China was halting lending to American banks and then within hours that was retracted.
Decide for yourself
"This used to be a government of checks and balances. Now it's all checks and no balances." (Gracie Allen for President 1940)
"This used to be a government of checks and balances. Now it's all checks and no balances." (Gracie Allen for President 1940)
If you still need someone for 71-80 I'm on it
I'll get to it right now, and if someone else has it, let me know.
I'm not sure what section it is yet, but a UK newspaper alluded to a provision which allows the secretary to by-pass normal hiring guidelines and procedures, and hire or contract with WALL STREET firms and employees to manage all these toxic 'assets.' So now, they ruined their own companies balance sheets with this stuff, and they get to work for the feds continuing to mismanage this crap.
Another pair of eyes can't hurt!
I haven't yet seen a full review on that section, so go for it. Even if another person is already doing it, "many hands make light work."
Perhaps kwas will lend a hand.
OK, got it. I am reading 61-70!
bump
Find the authority.
Amendment 10 - Powers of the States and People. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
They have no authority to purchase private securities to enhance the stability of anything.
They will all be impeached and recalled.
Just received Bill Buckler's Privateer last night
and this is what he said about SECTION 8
In Section 8 - A CLAIM BEYOND ALL LIMITS
In Section 8 of the Treasurer's bailout proposal, there is a claim to unlimited powers. We quote it: "Decisions by the Secretary (of Treasury) pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and commited to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency." If the US Congress signs for this clause it has abdicated its Constitutional responsibiliies. It will also have placed the US Treasury beyond the reach of the courts. Congress will have done this by an act of legislation enacted by itself!! THAT IS ABDICATION.
The US Treasurer, Mr. Paulson, will get an unlimited discretion. He could act as he pleased and would become a law unto himself, his decisions being "non-reviewable". So ends the rule of law in the USA.
From Bill Buckler's #613 Privateer 9-28-08
scary again
/Mike
/Mike
Front Fell Off
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcU4t6zRAKg
What page is this on?
What page is this on?
Maybe you were not addressing my post here
but in case you were it was on Page 1 of the Privateer by Bill Buckler #613
I'm not sure who Bill
I'm not sure who Bill Buckler is.. but the quote about not being able to challenge the bailout was in the original bill. I don't see that same clause in the proposed bill that everyone is proofing at the moment.
Keep filling in the blanks
I'm going offline for a bit, but will be back later to continue the compilation. So keep them reviews coming, folks!
some addtl comments on secs 128-131
sec 128 - ACCELERATION OF EFFECTIVE DATE
so basically as of this wednesday, the Fed will not only pay interest to its member banks on their reserves but allow them to maintain a zero reserve ratio, meaning that they no longer have to have any reserves with the Fed to operate...none, nil, zilch.
this means that the member banks will legally be allowed to operate, even if they're technically 'bankrupt'.
this also includes the 2 new member banks - Morgan Stanley & Goldman Sachs who were allowed in last week when Bernanke waived the 30 day waiting period.
btw, this was originally supposed to into law 3 years from now.
sec 129 - DISCLOSURES
(c) CONFIDENTIALITY - upon request of the Chairman of the Board, all information above will be held confidential and only available to the chairperson and ranking members of the committees (and according to subsection e, the Congressional Oversight Board).
(meaning not available to other members of Congress or the public)
(so much for transparency -- they're gonna keep the secrets 'all in the family', likely 12 members of Congress maximum.)
sec 131 - EXCHANGE STABILIZATION FUND REIMBURSEMENT
this one is interesting: Secretary has to reimburse this fund for the recent money market guarantees and protects the fund from any further losses by prohibiting the Secretary from using the fund to guarantee the money markets.
from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exchange_Stabilization_Fund
note: the fund was originally created out of the profits the govt made from seizing the gold of US citizens in 1934 then jacking up the price.
what this one does is shackle Treasury from using it in the future for anything else than what its designed for -- to manipulate exchange rates without the help of the Fed.
looks like Henry overstepped his bounds on this one. perhaps 'they' (Obama & his boys) realize they're gonna need as much as dough as possible to prop up the dollar.
get ready for the replay of the FDR gambit that created the fund in the 1st place.
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i'm researching sec 130 a bit more -- the Truth in Lending changes
i have a hunch there's some sneaky sinister lurking beneath the legalese.
Secs 128-131 = which pages?
Would that be within pages 71 - 80?
i'm not sure
cuz i guess i'm looking at a copy with a different page count than you all.
it seems from looking at the consolidation page that these sections are on pages 90-95 of your copies.
Let's not drop the ball!
There are still sections missing!
Take a look at the Consolidation thread and see what items still need to be covered. Then, come back here, pick a section, read, and post -- it'll be included in the consolidation.
Let's finish 'er up!
I really don't like this bill
This is the sec treas's power.
9 (5) Issuing such regulations and other guidance
10 as may be necessary or appropriate to define terms
11 or carry out the authorities or purposes of this Act.
Translation: make it up as you go along.
Aku Soku Zan
Aku Soku Zan
What page/section is that in?
Would you please provide the context? I don't have those phrases in the consolidation thread!
Thanks!