So this is what they wanted to prevent? oil, gas down, dollar, gold up not so bad after all.

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Thanks to all of you that pushed the issue. Tomorrow is just another day, perhaps the beginning of a more fair system. We can only hope and continue to speak out. and never believe it when someone says the sky will fall if you don't give up your money, liberty or freedoms. methinks thou protests too loudly.

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I believe I hear a price fix was on oil

I heard oil dropped ridiculously low today and they actually put a freeze on trading it or something. Yet gold looked very very good today. You should have seen the graph for T-Bills too. T-Bills were all in the green up up up.

It doesn't happen instantly

Hopefully not at all. But let's be real. This cannot go well.

YEP

I noticed

Fine. You want me gone. You got it.

I am so sick of people who say they have principles throw all principles to the toilet when it comes to certain people.

If you ever gained any power, it very much seems like you will be EXACTLY as bad as the Dems and Pubs.

boru

Has anybody noticed an abundance of trolls here lately?

Why did Ron Paul say bailout bill was the end of world economy

I don't care if it lead to the bill being defeated. That is some serious fear-mongering stuff.

And don't avoid the issue or kill the messenger. If anyone needs to be checked, it is the basket in which we have put all our eggs. You should thank me for having the courage to question questionable behavior.

And all I'm really asking for is an explanation. Why was this bill THAT bad? Or was it an over statement?

The US government does not

The US government does not have any of this money that will be used for this bailout, the previous bailouts or the next bailouts. The money will come from printing it, out of thin air, because taxing nor borrowing it is not an option at this time.

The creation of all the new money will dilute our current pool of money, which means lower valued dollars, which means inflation.

Basically, they are destroying the dollar.

We will not feel the impact of all these bailouts and financial irresponsibility immediately, but it will probably be soon (I'm guessing within 6 months).

When they destroy the dollar it will cause havoc around the world because the dollar is the world's reserve currency. Nearly every country holds dollars because dollars are necessary for purchasing oil, although that has been changing. Many other currencies are also pegged to the dollar as well, so when we destroy our dollar we are also destroying theirs. That's why many countries, especially in the middle east, have been considering to get off the dollar peg. Every time a country gets off the dollar peg that gives us fewer dollars overseas in which to export our inflation.

Probably the biggest fear is that China and Japan will dump the dollar. If they do that we can pretty much expect immediate worldwide financial crisis.

Ultimately, what it comes down to is that the value of the dollar is way more important than some wall street bankers.

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Have you READ the bill?

I have, and it is a serious P.O.S.

The Fed can already pump more money into the credit system -- this bill was *NOT* about liquidity... it was about authorization of more power to the U.S. Treasury to manipulate and control the market even further than it already can.

So why was Ron Paul saying the bailout = end of economy?

It was a bad bill...no doubt.

But the end of the dollar...the end of the world economy?

That's fear-mongering.

What would you call the complete devaluation of the dollar?

Look at Italy after WW2... look at Zimbabwe RIGHT NOW.

No one will sell Zimbabwe paper to print their money on. They can't even afford the paper it's printed on.

Wanna go there?

Let the big dogs take the loss since they reaped the profits all these years.

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

Donald Trump

is saying that oil will drop faster than it has ever dropped before. These people just want to destroy the middle class.

Do you have a link so we can

Do you have a link so we can verify the info?

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lower energy costs

not a bad thing. remember, in 2001 gas was a buck a gallon.

don't hold your breathe on

don't hold your breathe on oil dropping! they are still inflating..

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)

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