What do you use a bank for?
Dear Friends,
After a hard week in the financial industry many people don't know where to put their money. I want to ask you all a question, "What is the indirect reason for putting your money in a bank?"...I know the direct reason for putting your money in a bank, to keep it in a "safe" place. But the indirect reason you put money in a bank is so the bank can your loan money to other people. So banks are where borrowers and lenders can connect without every meeting each other...
So my next question is..."Why do we need banks?" If banks are merely lending institutions (by the way, they are also borrowing institutions) then all we need is a admin processing center that takes care of the way we invest in people and communities. I want to introduce you to http://www.prosper.com/about/ . This web site started in 2006 and has allowed for lenders (regular people like you and I) to freely loan to borrowers (regular people like you and I) more than $175 Million dollars.
This type of lending system cuts out two very important people...#1 it cuts out the Federal Reserve, the US's inflation and lending house. The Fed is the organization that allowed banks take money at very low interest rates so that the banks could take that money to create the housing bubble. and #2 it cuts out banks.
WOW!!! You are now free to pour directly into the lives of people you believe in or into businesses you believe in.
I know what you might be thinking..."How can I know who to loan too?" My quesitons to you, "Have you ever used Ebay?", "How do you ever know who to buy from on Ebay?" Simple, they are graded and their reputation preceeds them. There is no difference on this web site.
If you are still skeptical about this concept of loaning money directly to borrowers or borrowing directly from people; I encourage you to look a little more into it and consider thinking about how stable our current banking system is.
Finally, you must all know that even more important than protecting your Dollars from failing banks is getting rid of the "Dollars" that are currenly losing value at a greater rate than we can work a job. We need to get our country back on the Gold and Silver standard...this web site is one way to do that http://www.goldmoney.com/en/how-it-works.html and you can also hold your State (for me, it's Florida) to follow the Constitution's Article 1 Section 10 clause 1 that reads "No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility."
States are required by the Constitution to only use Gold and Silver in paying off debt, because Gold and silver hold their value while paper currencies can be inflated or deflated as we have seen throughout history and in our present world.
http://www.goldmoneybill.org/ - Edwin Viera established this idea!! Thank you Dr. Viera!
Hold tight to your loved ones. Pour into your communities with your time, talent and treasure. And be a free person not in bondage to the whims of men!
Yours in Health and Freedom!
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Use of Baanks
There are lot of uses of banks, first, the ssue of money, in the form of banknotes and current accounts subject to cheque or payment at the customer's order. These claims on banks can act as money because they are negotiable and/or repayable on demand, and hence valued at par. They are effectively transferable by mere delivery, in the case of banknotes, or by drawing a cheque that the payee may bank or cash. Second, netting and settlement of payments – banks act as both collection and paying agents for customers, participating in interbank clearing and settlement systems to collect, present, be presented with, and pay payment instruments. This enables banks to economise on reserves held for settlement of payments, since inward and outward payments offset each other. It also enables the offsetting of payment flows between geographical areas, reducing the cost of settlement between them. Third, credit intermediation – banks borrow and lend back-to-back on their own account as middle men. Forth, credit quality improvement – banks lend money to ordinary commercial and personal borrowers (ordinary credit quality), but are high quality borrowers. The improvement comes from diversification of the bank's assets and capital which provides a buffer to absorb losses without defaulting on its obligations. However, banknotes and deposits are generally unsecured; if the bank gets into difficulty and pledges assets as security, to raise the funding it needs to continue to operate, this puts the note holders and depositors in an economically subordinated position. And last, maturity transformation – banks borrow more on demand debt and short term debt, but provide more long term loans. In other words, they borrow short and lend long. With a stronger credit quality than most other borrowers, banks can do this by aggregating issues (e.g. accepting deposits and issuing banknotes) and redemptions (e.g. withdrawals and redemptions of banknotes), maintaining reserves of cash, investing in marketable securities that can be readily converted to cash if needed, and raising replacement funding as needed from various sources (e.g. wholesale cash markets and securities markets). Meanwhile, New home sales have taken the first upward turn in months. New home sales and housing starts have both increased in the last month, and the evidence suggests that it isn't just the typical post winter bump. More people are responding to the drastic drop in prices, and getting personal loans to obtain a new home or first home. Economists are pointing to a rebound of demand since the supply has dramatically increased, and prices subsequently dropped to far more competitive levels. The forecast of gloom and doom hasn't subsided completely, but stock market and new home sales rebounds indicate that we might be almost out of the woods.
I dont
any more since they freely hand over any records asked for without a court order
I KILLED THE BANKS
Keep things simple.
Wealth should be stored in goods, money should be spent and usury should be refused.
Wealth, to me,
is not equated to goods or money. It's a hug from grandma or a child, it's a smile from coworkers who appreciate your contribution - mostly intangible things. Exchange creates wealth, so it is not measured in dollars only. Material things have no intrinsic value.
Money is an exchange between people; dollars are only a representation of money. Money is created the moment you have a life changing idea, a trade of value between people. or a profitable exchange of knowledge. should be exchanged for services of value.
We are only stewards of our homes, our car, or property of any kind.
But, if you are invested in property, we must keep enough money to pay the taxes and/or insurance, etc. Because, we really do not own anything. If we don't insure and license our car, it cannot be used.
So, we are indeed stewards of everything unless it's not licensed and/or taxed..
I don't. I have not had any
I don't. I have not had any kind of a bank account in 18 years. It's a bit inconvenient, but I refuse to support an evil system. My advice to you is you better read the fine print when you sign up for an account. Unless things have changed since 18 years ago, the "contract" they make you sign states that you agree to abide by all the rules a edicts of the Federal Reserve. No Thanks!
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Goldmoney is great.
I've had an account with them for 2 years. Its the only place I know where you can buy gold and silver at close to 'spot' price. Right now the spot price for silver is 9.78/oz. and I can buy any quantity of silver at Goldmoney to add to my account for 10.17/oz
So you don't have
physical possession of your gold? How is that any better than the stock market? We have $ on paper, and that is all.
Now they will steal our 401k's and limit how much you can pull out every year, and your kids will only get half what is left.
I pulled my 401k over two years ago so I have control of my own money.
Letter to Bank
Dear Sirs,
One of my checks was returned marked "insufficient funds".
In view of current developments, does that refer to me or to you?
Yours Faithfully
WHG
Cleaner
Actually, where I live there is a shiny new bank branch placed at frequent intervals along most business streets. They seem to be vying for numbers with gas stations, convenience stores and fast food joints.
Remember when traveling that the banks almost always have much cleaner rest rooms than other places.
Government got involved...they're temporarily not allowing new
Government got involved...they're temporarily not accepting "new lender registrations or allow new commitments from existing lenders" until they're new registration system, which handles things for the "appropriate securities authorities", is in place.
http://www.prosper.com/help/topics/lender-quiet_period.aspx
That sucks.
lending without inflation = good
That's an interesting idea. I think I've seen this site before, shortly after it first open up for business, but at the time I didn't need to borrow any money, nor did I have any money to lend out (heh, same as it is now).
lending without inflation = good
I went
to a debate in massachusetts last night and spoke to a Rp candidate after the debate. She is doing the research on opening banks backed by metals. She wants to work real fast on this to get alot of people on board real fast. I will be having lunch with her soon and will post the details. Kill the other banks though.
What to use a bank for?
How about target practice?
Listen to this message - perhaps it will inspire you..
Is there an institution...
... that would act as a "bank" but would take in your FRN's (cash, paycheck, etc.) and convert it into gold or some other commodity, and issue a checkbook you could use to pay bills, plus a debit card for electronic purchases?
Basically what I'm looking for is a bank where the value of your account would be tied to the commodity so as to stave off the inflation tax. The fast liquidity seems to me to be the only problem.
I would pay a small fee for a service like this as opposed to the piddly interest we get from standard banks.
Anyone know of anything like this?
No, I don't, but I'm
No, I don't, but I'm certainly interested in something like that as well.
I suspect the U.S. Government wouldn't tolerate such a bank for too long, though. What you describe reminds me of e-gold, which I think has been raided multiple times by the government. Liberty Dollar was also raided as well. The government will go to great lengths to protect the artificial value of the worthless FRN's, while simultaneously destroying the artificial value of FRN's through inflation...
Direct Deposit :-( I closed
Direct Deposit :-(
I closed my not-so Safety Deposit box this weekend.
For my LLC's!
and then I pay myself via check, cash it and buy gold and silver. I write off all of my expenses and pay not taxes.
If you're going to play the House, know the tricks.
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I love this idea, it may
I love this idea, it may give just enough oppurtunity to pull off some ideas that I've been kicking around, though seriously. I just use a bank to cash my checks. I store and budget my own money, and I do not keep a credit card.
Would one have a checkbook to be able to write up checks
to pay off your bills?
Exactly-
If the difference between a bank and the Treasury is that a bank charges interest, why have banks? Furthermore, why have interest?
I’ve argued on a few other posts that interest is essentially a virus that degenerates the value of currency
(I believe this interest-free principle was behind Lincoln’s Greenbacks also)
I use it so they can steal 20 bucks every wire transfer I make
And keep me online on their damned HOTLINES and make me wait in line and give me unreliable ATM service and deny me access to my money while they play with their derivative gambling scams.
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for real?
your funny and your right....I use one for the direct deposit of my children's father's SS Death benefit check and to occassionaly help myself to a high interest loan when the need arises, invisible money floats sometimes.
"Ideas have consequences." Ron Paul
"...the most memorable concern of mankind
is the guts it takes to
face the sunlight again."-Charles Bukowski
People should be able to help
other people w/o interference of government.
The reason they don't is fear - fear of loss of their precious money.
Well, how have the banks worked for you?
People are assets!
C4 depository...
not to blow anyone's bubble.