OPEN THREAD: Forum Rules Suspended - Vulgarity needed - Prepare to be offended!
Michael - tonight you have to let us vent.
I am F'n Pissed!
We got into this mess because the GOVERNMENT stepped in to give lower income families the opportunity/ADVANTAGE in the AMERICAN DREAM of home ownership. The GOVERNMENT lowered standard thresholds of income levels, credit scores and debt to income ratios and drafted legistation that somehow implied a Government program meant it was Government subsidized or backed.
AND when the standards weren't low enough groups like Obama's ACORN Group threatened law suits as if the mortgage companies were being racists! FU OBAMA! and your GIMME something attitude and I sure hope your WIFE is PROUD for the 2nd time TONIGHT!
and you McCain just because you exist and voted for this! FU!
So is this what got us here! NO! it is our GOVERNMENTS wreckless spending, they had to bundle these risky mortgages into MBS and sell them to foreign investors so we could borrow money from China, London, Australia etc. and let them finance our wrecklessness because we have to OCCUPY every fricken country out there and intimidate the hell out of them into a DEMOCRACY! Let Freedom Ring!
OMG I am pissed!
Does it end there - no, hell no! It starts here, if this is not the straw that breaks the camels back what the hell is?
We have to end the FED,
We have to restore the CONSTITUTION!
We have to abolish the IRS.
We have to end the CFR, NATO, NWO, NAU and piss on builderburgs campfire.
I am so crazy mad right now, I have had it! It's time people for us to stand up in a way that is bigger than we have thought.
I told my husband tonight, what incentive is there for me to send in our mortgage payment tonight - we can get bailed out!





















Fuck it! Let's do it live!
NWO for Dummies
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"There can be only one permanent revolution - a moral one: The regeneration of the inner man."
—Tolstoy
"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."
If they pass it, it will fail a la Bill Buckler
"A Financial System on a Precipice"
On October 2nd, 2008 Lysa says:
Bill Buckler has nailed it in his Privateer issue #613
We all need to know this. I quote him here:
"Each weekend crisis has exacerbated the global problem. The Fed's de facto takeover of Fannie and Freddie has sealed the fate of the global market for US 'Agency' debt paper with total foreign holdings having fallen ever since July. 25% of US banks lost money as a direct result of the takeover. It is true that the losses so far are comparatively small (about $US 15 Billion) but the vast majority (85%) of the losing banks are also small, having less than $US 1 Billion in assets.
The Lehman Bros. crisis in mid-September was resolved by the US government staying away from the 158 year-old bank declaring Chapter 11 bankruptcy. The damage done here was profound and global. The Fed's reputation as the "lender of last resort" was damaged probably beyond repair. The Lehman bankruptcy was a direct cause of the much bigger crisis being faced this weekend because Lehman was a counter-party in the huge derivatives market. This led to a seizure in the market for (among other items) the Credit Default Swaps (CDSs) which form a large part of the "illiquid assets" which Mr. Paulson's new bailout plan is designed to mop up. AIG, the world's largest insurance company with a global financial presence, could not be allowed to fail so the Fed injected $US 85 Billion. WaMu could not be allowed to "fail" either. It was "sold" by the government to JP Morgan (shades of Bear Stearns) on September 25 for 1.9 Billion in what was de facto the biggest bank failure in US history. The purpose of the JP Morgan takeover was to prevent the FDIC from having to "rescue" the bank. That would have cost $US 31 Billion, two-thirds of the money the FDIC has available for such purposes.
But all of the above, and indeed all the serial "crises" which the Fed and the Treasury have been dealing with ever since the first cracks appeared in the US mortgage markets early in 2007, were but an overture to what is going on now in Washington. This bailout plan is the last straw. It is an attempt to pretend that the paper "assets" (officially valued at $US 700 Billion but in reality worth on paper at least $US 5 TRILLION) can simply be made to "go away" at a stroke of the legislator's pen. On its "success" depends the last shreds of fiscal credibility maintained by US financial regulators. IT WILL, OF COURSE, FAIL.
The ideas that the government should "run" the economy and that a legal tender fiat "medium of exchange" created by whim out of thin air is the only viable form of money - are facing their latest crisis of confidence. People don't learn from history because they are ignorant of history, let alone rational economic or political theory. But sometimes the debate is literally dragged kicking and screaming back towards fundamental principle. We are on the verge of another episode. Mr. Bush, Mr. Paulson, Mr. Bernanke, and all the powers that be on the "Hill" and on the "Street" know this. Their desperation to literally paper over the situation without coming to grips with it proves this beyond doubt. Their entire power base rests on the system as it stands. That is why they are so desperate, if not to actually save the system, at least to prolong it until, in the words of Lord Keynes, they have reached their "long run".
Lord Keynes, when asked about the "long run" effects of the political, economic and monetary intervention he advocated, responded that: "In the long run, we are all dead". He is, we are not."
I am sure Bill Buckler, if he could, would vote for Dr. Ron Paul
Pass it far and wide if you want to. All the best for Thursday & Friday!
My Letter to the Editor
Title: Ron Paul Supporter on Bailout
This is why we're angry. This is why we make noise and hell no we won't go away. This is why we feel such an urgency for the future of our children and our Constitutional Republic. Don't ya think we're tired of yelling at the top of our lungs for well over a year now, "It's the ECONOMY that will bring us to our knees," only to be ridiculed and marginalized. At times questioning our own sanity because nobody gets it. Alienating our family and friends with our conviction, our passion, our knowledge that WE THE PEOPLE are being screwed and we're allowing it to happen. Only one man had the courage to tell us the truth. "Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our Liberty and Wealth are in jeopardy. Let it no be said that we did nothing."~Ron Paul~
What will you tell your children, grandchildren your role was in ending this insanity, in perserving their liberty and wealth? I can look mine in the eye and say, I cared, I objected, I did something. Get angy, WE ARE THE PEOPLE.. Let your voice be heard. They do not have our permission to pass their bad debt onto us and future generations.
Polite Vulgarity
Letushope, I just adore your "vulgarity" -- f'n, FU...it is polite vulgarity.
Personally, I don't generally tend to have a trucker's mouth, but certain recent events do indeed cause the sudden onset of coprolalia. It's good to have a place to vent and dump the trash; it sort of helps clean the house, allowing folks to move on to the next stage of the process. You know. Like how vomiting expels the poisons, and helps move you on to taking action which brings about healing.
And my, won't the "action" phase be interesting...
Prediction:
the senators that voted for the 450 pages of total crap will come to regret it sooner or later. It marks the end of their political careers.
h-daddy
Here! Here!
The key is to make sure that it is not forgotten!
Sorry folks but I have to
Sorry folks but I have to say a big 'FUCK YOU I TOLD YOU SO!' to anyone who voted for Bush in 2000!!!
I told my firends, family, and neighbors that if "Little Evil" got elected he was going to bring his cronies and hell with him and this is EXACTLY what he did!!!
Bush brought his train/bank robber gang with him to Washington and look what they did. He brought "change" alright, he raped and pillaged not only the Middle East but the USA also.
Just think about what happened in the last 8 years. Yeah sure Clinton caused some of this too but Bush capitalized on it.
Wait! Maybe that's it! Maybe Bush is smarter than everyone thinks! Maybe Bush knew Washington was a steaming pile of shit waiting to be flushed down the toilet. Maybe he just decided to be the flusher and while he was at it make all his friends rich! Maybe that's why Cheney said Bush will be remembered as one of the greatest presidents ever....
Maybe I've had too much to drink tonight....
2000 election
I think who ever got in would have done exactly what is happening now. They have their roles and do the bidding of their corporate masters. All paths lead to the same place that is how it was scripted.
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OK~ Heres my f-bomb!
To all you spineless traitors in the Congress!
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"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
I hope I get
sent to the same fema camp as you guys, there would never be a dull moment and I wouldn't have to worry about my grammar. LOL
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I am not going to an f***en
I am not going to an f***en fema camp! I'll die fighting first.
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We're Not
We're not going to any damned Fema camp quilt.
We are going to start kicking butt.
America is PISSED OFF!
We've had it!
" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~
" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~
What I remember from husband
What I remember from husband military years before we married. Please pardong spelling. I'm just doing phonetic.
DinkyDow, Muckyeye, DooMamie!
I'm sure one of those describes them. There were lots more but I'm drawing a blank.
Trust in God, but tie your camel tight.
"Socialism needs two legs on which to stand; a right and a left. While appearing to be in complete opposition to one another,they both march in the same direction." - Paul Proctor
Time is precious, and, we have a choice!
If we contacted our Ron Paul campaign leaders in each state,
and all those we are inter-connected with throughout our precincts, conventions etc. and direct them to help plan this here on the Daily Paul Forum, we might have a pretty good chance of creating a citizens revolt with the idea of making our voices heard. I have no experience with this but for what its worth we may demand the following, while certainly allowing for other suggestions:
1) Overwhelming vote of no confidence in our leaders
2) We the people demand 'sound' money, not inflated fiat money
3) We demand our leaders uphold and obey our Constitution or they should be forcibly removed from office!
4) We will not take out 'infinite' loans in our great grandchildrens' names for the sake of criminal extortionists in our government!
5) We overwhelmingly nominate Dr. Ron Paul and all those elected leaders who support and understand Austrian Economics be immediately appointed to positions of Secretary of the Treasury as his advisers
People, we have to reach all those who have legal expertise on this so we can truly pull this off and learn a thing or two or three in the process!
This is what I sent out to my connections:
Let's put our heads together people and create a plan. Somebody on Daily Paul suggested the following if the Bailout passes the House on Friday. Go here:
http://www.dailypaul.com/...
We need people who have some good knowledge of our bicameral system procedures for a citizens revolt! The ball is going to be in ALL our courts, 3.3million citizens across this country, less all those who wanted this mayhem.
If you have suggestions, guidance, ideas please bring this to the Daily Paul. Sign on as a member of the forum. We need a central place to plan.
Perhaps, those campaign leaders for Ron Paul in each State (they have the email addresses of all of us) can help with the dissemination of the best plan.
It's all up to us now. I say we need to maintain our moral, legal ground here and not lose our cool.
(Damn, I wish I studied law instead of Art! LOL)
When you say leaders?
"We demand our leaders uphold and obey our Constitution or they should be forcibly removed from office!"
When you say "leaders" don't you mean representatives?
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The Law
by Frédéric Bastiat
http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html#SECTION_G001
Time is precious, and, we have a choice!
If we contacted our Ron Paul campaign leaders in each state,
and all those we are inter-connected with throughout our precincts, conventions etc. and direct them to help plan this here on the Daily Paul Forum, we might have a pretty good chance of creating a citizens revolt with the idea of making our voices heard. I have no experience with this but for what its worth we may demand the following, while certainly allowing for other suggestions:
1) Overwhelming vote of no confidence in our leaders
2) We the people demand 'sound' money, not inflated fiat money
3) We demand our leaders uphold and obey our Constitution or they should be forcibly removed from office!
4) We will not take out 'infinite' loans in our great grandchildrens' names for the sake of criminal extortionists in our government!
5) We overwhelmingly nominate Dr. Ron Paul and all those elected leaders who support and understand Austrian Economics be immediately appointed to positions of Secretary of the Treasury as his advisers
People, we have to reach all those who have legal expertise on this so we can truly pull this off and learn a thing or two or three in the process!
This is what I sent out to my connections:
Let's put our heads together people and create a plan. Somebody on Daily Paul suggested the following if the Bailout passes the House on Friday. Go here:
http://www.dailypaul.com/...
We need people who have some good knowledge of our bicameral system procedures for a citizens revolt! The ball is going to be in ALL our courts, 3.3million citizens across this country, less all those who wanted this mayhem.
If you have suggestions, guidance, ideas please bring this to the Daily Paul. Sign on as a member of the forum. We need a central place to plan.
Perhaps, those campaign leaders for Ron Paul in each State (they have the email addresses of all of us) can help with the dissemination of the best plan.
It's all up to us now. I say we need to maintain our moral, legal ground here and not lose our cool.
(Damn, I wish I studied law instead of Art! LOL)
This deserves to be put on it's own forum thread
This deserves to be put on it's own forum.
Awesome Anisha.....NOTHING can stop a R3volution whose time has come!
Bullshit
This is utter bullshit!. I had a fucking hunch the Senate would pass this piece of shit attack on the constitution. I really didn't get that upset after the bill passed. This past weekend I went ape shit in anger after I read the original "bailout bill" that gave Henry Paulson dictatorial powers over the economy without any over sight. My next door neighbors heard me yelling for 5 minutes. I looked out the window and one of them was staring at me in disbelief. I will not repeat what gesture I used and what I said to them here...lol
On a positive note one of my Senators, Colorado's Wayne Allard actually voted Nay for the bill. On a negative note that son of a bitch traitor Ken Salazar of Colorado voted Yea for it. The House of Representatives dare not pass the bill on Friday if they want to avoid a bitch slap from me.
End rant!
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Our work has just begun...AGAIN!
Call all office locations, fax all, email all!
Then we work our buttox off to remove them from office when their term is ending. WE MUST PREVAIL! They don't even think of their families or their children. What kind of scum are these people?
All I can think of, in times like these, is that THIS LIFE IS THE SHORT LIFE! The next will be long and very hot!
Kind of off subject - but a guy who assisted O.J. Simpson in hiding and funneling money to him was on Dr. Phil toady. He wrote a book and is coming clean about what he did. Dr. Phil had the Goldmans on too. It was very interesting, that after 14 years, he finally came out and told the truth. He actually was an accessory after the fact but also knew OJ was guilty.
In politics, in 14 years, everyone has forgotten and can't do anything anyhow. The untold damage and havoc to millions of people can not be undone. No way to fix society or return common decency. In this case, it was one family (well, two if you count O.J. children who had to grow up w/o a mother).
Just nauseating, to put it politely. I just want to vomit!
Let it not be said we did nothing - we care for our fellow human beings and will be rewarded, in one way or another, to be sure.
God bless us all; remember, he who laughs last, laughs longer.
VOTE THEM ALL OUT! Work as hard for that as we did for Ron Paul.
Cornyn and Hutchinson, don't
Cornyn and Hutchinson, don't come home, bastards
Think for yourself, question authority
I second the motion,
those traitors need not come home. They are not welcome in the great state of Texas.
Hanging
When Sadaam was hanged, I was not happy but actually there was some sadness within me, seeing how someone's life can end so horribly from living for power, money, and just plain wickedness and no concern for others. He well deserved what he got!
I know of at least 75 others who deserve the same. I would not rejoice, nor would I shed a tear for them, but would give thanks for justice served for the good of all.
They are traitorist bastards!
" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~
" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~
I was sad!
We hung him, handed him over to be hung, because he refused to pin his dollar to ours, for no other reason.
He was not a good man, but don't loose sight of why he was executed it wasn't for WMD or for any other domestic threat they could dream up - it was for only one reason. He understood how pegging his country's dollar equal to our countries dollar and it was a loosing battle.
!!!Truth is treason in the EMPIRE OF LIES!!!
" Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental opinion of they day; but a series of oppresssions...pursued unalterably, through every change of ministers, too plainly proove delibrate, systematical plan of reducing us to slavery..."
Tho
when i watched him hang
a thought came into my head:
we are all saddam
still not sure what it meant
but i think you guys are close...
What Your Thought Was Telling You Is...........
Your conscience was telling you the truth.....we are all sinners.....great sinners. Some worse than others but great sinners nevertheless.
That is what the Bible is telling everyone, and that is the bad news.
The good news is that there is hope, and there is forgiveness.
Complete forgiveness!
Believe on the name of Jesus Christ as your Savior and be saved.
Peace, perfect peace knowing that whatever these maniacs down here do, an eternity of perfect peace and joy awaits all who will simply believe!
That's the best news ever heard in the lifetime of this great sinner!
" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~
" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~
holbrook
I believe you just wrote the PERFECT letter to send our Senators!
Mind if I "borrow" it?
By All Means Use It
We ourselves have got to "hang in there" through all this [ pardon the punn]
We still have hope
" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~
" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~
I'm not supposed to posting
while at work but I really don't give a rats ass right now because I am just as pissed as all of you, and I am a granny, and I will ask forgiveness latter for cussing, but fuck, this is betrayal at it's highest level by these bastards. Just pulled cash out of my ATM, will get the rest of the money out of the bank tomorrow. I'm done, and I will write the slimy bastards who voted yes and let them know how I feel. I'm almost 59 so my life span is coming to an end but my heart bleeds for my grandchildren and all of the children in this country. We have been sold out.
chinkadaro
I'm with you granny
I'm a granny too and I weep for my country and for my grandchildren and all the children who have no future to look forward to. I would like to see all these bastards who voted for the bailout water boarded or is that not harsh enough?
Sold out?
More like packaged and marketed as bird flu vaccine in labeled bottles filled with old dirty bath water mixed with old drain oil.