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Trying to make some sense of it all,
But I can see that it makes no sense at all.
Is it cool to go to sleep on the floor?
‘Cause I don’t think I can take any more.
Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right…
Here I am, stuck in the middle with you.

THAT WAS A DEBATE?

Pundits are trying for all they are worth to stretch a distinguishing promise from the recent vice presidential “debate.”

But was that even a debate; and did it not in fact virtually guarantee that neither party will serve us?

If you think you have heard monetary resolution from any of the candidates of this 2008 campaign, it is not possible your thoughts are credible: We don’t have to look back but for the blink of an eye to find that all the darlings of the mainstream media (owned by the “financial” “industry” now multiplying its stealings from us), attested that the fundamentals of “our” (their) “economy” (ways of stealing from us) are “sound.”

That’s all the basis for credibility we have ever had: mere unqualified and unqualifiable assertions. Outright lies; the most stupid things any self-ruling public could ever swallow.

The credibility anyone attributes to the present candidates is no more veritable. We have before us some of the worst public servants in history; and the greatest enemies of representative government therefore are the sheeple who keep these betrayers in power.

So disturbing is the lack of credibility of those in power, that they continue to refer to our form of government as a “democracy,” when in fact we are a rule of law, a representative government, “a republic.”

Whenever you hear another leader apply the term “democracy” to our form of government, what does that tell you of their perception of their obligation to serve you?

If it doesn’t tell you they sought power without the least regard for the rule of law which comprises and which alone can preserve a true republic, then you yourself have no way to understand they came to power instead to gut and destroy the republic by the very system they have now “rescued” merely to continue their gutting of the republic. The very thing they have preserved is your worst enemy (unless you too are a thief).

The very thing they have sought to do under your very noses is to secure their power to steal from you forever. The very thing they have protected is the instrument of their stealing; and they have even done this by ensuring the inevitable failure of their instrument of stealing will only cost you further, even as the present failure is engendered by the fact you are already incapable of paying.

Worse of course then, they have rescued nothing, because they have preserved the very fundamental process of the failure. Any monetary system subject to interest inherently terminates itself, because merely to maintain a vital circulation subject to interest, to the degree it is necessary to re-borrow principal and interest paid out of the general circulation, debt is inherently and irreversibly multiplied in proportion to the circulation (or capacity to service debt) by ever greater increments of ever greater periodic interest on an ever greater sum of debt.

Every such system was devised to steal from you; every such system can only impose complete collapse on itself over and over and over again. The present “debate” in fact carefully avoided discussion of that matter.

Why?

You know why: These are hardly foxes; but they are sooooooo… corrupt; and they are pretending to guard the chicken coop.

No less an icon of truth than Thomas Jefferson told us so long ago as well, that all these things would happen. He did not solve their fundamental causes, but he at least identified them; he did not mathematically perfect economy, but he came ever so close to doing so.

As Jefferson said, “If the American people ever allow banks to issue their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation [by having to maintain a vital circulation by perpetually re-borrowing principal and interest as subsequent sums of debt, increased perpetually so much as periodic interest], the banks and [bank owned] corporations which will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property, until their children wake homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”

But never in history has anyone proven usury served its subjects; and I myself provided the Reagan Administration with computer models in 1983, which, opposed to the purported (but never qualified) “soundness” of “our” “economic” fundamentals, predicted all this. Mere, basic calculations of the interest we would have to re-borrow to maintain a vital circulation projected not only the amassing of debt which will soon collapse “the economy,” but complete monetary failure at approximately 2010 AD.

The purported bailout or rescue has no power to avert that collapse, because it doesn’t even address the fundamental process which will *continue* to multiply debt into failure — interest. In fact instead, the purported bailout or rescue *preserves* the very process which will continue to multiply debt into inevitable failure.

Thus what was debated?

By avoiding the one crucial issue, did not the two parties of betrayal, the two candidates of betrayal, and the mainstream media, owned by the very betrayers… did they not instead ensure your destruction?

On the street, no American with their head on half straight believes either party serves them. People are bracing for martial law; to lose everything they have; to eat for the next two weeks; for a decade of a Second Great Depression.

“Your” government?

The detention centers are ready. The same troops who have been sent after false claims of weapons of mass destruction will now be the weapon of mass, final destruction of the republic for which they ostensibly stood.

Your republic in fact is already all but gone; you gave it up to usurers long ago; and now, you have what you have wrought.

In the second lifespan of the private “Federal” “Reserve” System, the writing has been on the wall for decades: The exalted President Reagan claimed he would balance the budget; he denounced President Carter for 4 years of deficits in which Mr. Carter amassed the seeming pittance of $150 billion in federal debt — less than $40 billion per year, while “your” Congress and President just gave $840 billion which you don’t have, away just yesterday.

But Reagan of course would soon multiply the federal debt of the entire previous history more than 3 times over; and the United States would plummet from “the greatest creditor nation” in the world to its lowliest debtor. That’s how long the writing has been on the wall.

As I warned President Reagan in 1980, and as I warn the American People now, the American People deserve — and should demand — a credible accounting for how, given the one underlying process of a monetary system which can only multiply debt into terminal debt, the purported policies before us *possibly* do *any* of the right things.

Americans aren’t going to get those answers, because the policies are unqualifiable, because the policies *intend* not to do the right thing for the people, and because the most corrupt are pretending to guard the chicken coop.

What you saw was a facade. Only a facade.

If the American People are to be served, a different set of questions must be answered. I’ve sent those questions to Jim Lehrer since he first began to moderate presidential debates. Here they are again, for whatever insistence you might give them; these are the bare rudiments — just three questions — regarding what we have to know to identify any candidate who *might* serve us:

1.

Can you tell us, under any implementation of a currency subject to interest (for profit), how it is possible and practical to maintain a vital circulation without irreversibly multiplying debt in proportion to the circulation (or capacity to service debt), until we suffer artificial collapse under a terminal sum of debt?
2.

Can you tell us how, if inflation and deflation are defined respectively as increases or decreases in circulation per whatever wealth the circulation is intended to represent, either a) how inflation and/or deflation serve us; or b) how it is possible to solve inflation and deflation where the currency is subject to interest?
3.

Is there any reason you can give us why the people should be deprived of a currency which represents *only* the wealth they might intend to trade amongst each other?

Of course, there are infinite half baked answers to these questions. Nothing but solution however can serve the people; and there is one and only one integral solution to 1) inflation and deflation, 2) systemic manipulation of the cost or value of money or property, and 3) inherent, irreversible multiplication of debt in proportion to a circulation.

What you saw was only a facade:
Clowns to the left of us, Jokers to the right…
A solution is at hand, but one must know of solution's existence!
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http://perfecteconomy.com/wp/2008/10/04/that-was-a-debate/

MAN this is so blasa, I told you this weeks ago .....People you need to LISTEN....This is extortion money, doesn't any one get it yet ????
When we can NO LONGER pay ,WE will be sunk as a COUNTRY ....NWO....AND the rest of the world said ?????
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I stopped by their website and didn't see a direct link. This is for real I hope?

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World's Greatest Business
http://www.gbemembers.com/webintro.php?view=wmv

"The Number one reason people lose money is the FEAR of losing money." Sir John Templeton

"Committed To The Eradication Of Poverty Among Patriots"

I just read the whole thing and it speaks to many of our questions.

Thanks for sharing it....who ordered the take-down?

Lehman was an owner of the Fed. Why did they let them go down?

Thanks for sharing that. I read it and then saved it. Sure does explain a lot and answers a lot of questions. I don't get all the financial jargon going around these days and never had very much money to invest (gave all my extra to the government in the form of taxes) but this was very interesting and for me easy to understand. Glad someone with financial expertise put the puzzle pieces together. Welcome to the United Socialist States of America.

This was planned and executed as an excuse for expanded bank control of the Empire.

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World's Greatest Business
http://www.gbemembers.com/webintro.php?view=wmv

"The Number one reason people lose money is the FEAR of losing money." Sir John Templeton

"Committed To The Eradication Of Poverty Among Patriots"

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin
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it get interesting? It's 24 pages long!

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