Michigan
Submitted by pfolkler on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 16:10
All - I just read a State Judge threw out Michigan's Jan. Primary. If the state legislature can not fix there error by Nov. 14th, then the fall back is supposed to be a sort of county by county caucus of the party faithful [On the GOP side...]
Anyone know more, or how this works? Also, I left my registration as an INDEPENDANT assuming I could vote Ron Paul in the primary. But if the primary vote is squashed, is it too late to change to republican?
Thanks for looking into this issue in advance!
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How this all started
All of this started because Michigan politicians decided they needed "a friend in the White House."
That's right. Straight from the governor.
What this says to me is: We need a better position to suck off the teet of the Federal Government.
If we can suck up and get "our" president in the White House, federal dollars will come flowing in, protectionist trade schemes will be erected, and we'll SAVE the Michigan economy.
This is the antithesis of a Constitutional Republic. We not only need to get Ron Paul in the presidency, we need to break up this whole system, state by state.
Eceryone change to republican
If you are an independent, please change to republican even though your primary might be open. We want to be ready if the GOP in that state decides to make it a closed primary.
what to do in Michigan 2
http://savemichigansprimary.wordpress.com/
what to do in Michigan
PLEASE contact your State Senator and State Representative
> today!!
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> Here is a link to find your State Senator’s contact
> information: http://www.senate.michigan.gov/
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> Here is a link to find your State Representative’s contact
> information: http://www.house.michigan.gov/find_a_rep.asp
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> Ask YOUR legislators to do two things:
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> 1. Support giving IMMEDIATE EFFECT to House Bill No. 4507
> so that all the logistics connected with a Presidential
> Primary can be accomplished in time for a January 15th
> vote. Important: a 2/3 majority vote in the House is
> necessary to give the bill Immediate Effect. Without 2/3
> vote from the House the bill may be stalled until as late
> as November 21 or even December 1.
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> 2. Write a letter to the leadership of their respective
> political parties (Republican or Democrat) urging them to
> take part in the Primary.
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> If you have any questions, I can be reached at
> 1-517-410-8359.
>
Just sent this email to state Sen and Rep -- thanks for the tip!
Dear Rep. Brandenburg,
I am writing to urge your support for efforts to preserve Michigan's primary election. My understanding is that House Bill No. 4507 does that.
I read enough to know that Michigan's primary is in trouble on several fronts -- ruled illegal by a judge, the subject of bickering among local and state party offices and candidates, etc. I ask that all reasonable measures be taken to preserve election by the citizenry. To go to a caucus or convention denies that at a time citizens already are losing economic strength. Please don't deny their electoral influence at such a critical time, and for such a critical election!
For what it's worth I care less about the early date than preserving the election. I would be nice if we an have a very early primary, I guess, but Michigan still could participate as an early industrial state even if the date was made somewhat later. And, given some scenarios, a later primary could be even more decisive than earlier contests in determining the presidential nominee for each major party.
Please don't just stand by or act in a manner that results in no primary at all. Don't throw out the baby with the bath water or let judges do that either!
UAW Straw Poll
I've been pitching RP at the GM plant I work in since April and am having good results. I've distributed hundreds of SlimJims, dozens of DVD's, people are wearin his buttons and I've delivered a bunch of signs. People are coming up to me now asking for information. All of this in a traditionally Democratic stronghold - the UAW. The rank and file are NOT impressed with Clinton ! We need more Paulites in the plants to spread the word--- especially with the UAW holding a National presidential straw poll this month and next. Paul is the ONLY candidate that wants to quit NAFTA which is a very sore spot in the union. I believe we could do VERY WELL in this straw poll. Anybody here, meetup members, Paul supporters that are UAW members in Ford, GM, Chrysler etc.... let's get working and take this poll !!!!
Good work!
You are the type of person this campaign needs more of!
Detroit News update
Looks like noumenon answered you main question below. The situation here is very complicated and fluid, with a local judge ruling the primary illegal (for now) and conflicts before that between Dems and Reps, among different candidates, between national party offices vs. state offices, etc. Too bad, since Michigan could be the first really significant primary because it's much larger and more diverse, in population and its economy, than either Iowa or New Hampshire. It also is in bigger economic trouble and therefore offers a better barometer of how candidates will fare in such an environment.
Anyhow this is from today's Detroit News:
http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071109/POLIT...
News
Apparently there is a lot of fuss over the date Granholm chose for primaries in Michigan. Some judge ruled it illegal and unconstitutional. So, now they're going to have a senate hearing about it. We might not even get to vote... how ridiculous.. THANKS GRANHOLM!
Meetup Groups
Everyone in Michigan should join the Michigan meetup groups to support and help organize for Ron Paul.
http://michigan4ronpaul.com/
Also, go to MeetUp.com and search for a Ron Paul group in your area. We're all over the place! :)
Michigan RIPE for RP
The other BIG news is that all the Democrats withdrew other than Clinton. That gives EVERYONE a reason to vote for Ron Paul in Michigan. Since Clinton will win Michigan, every Democrat can make a protest vote against the war and vote for Ron Paul, even if they really support a Democrat. (Reasons for supporting Democrats are still largely unknown).
-Roderic
Awesome Point!
I had actually never even thought of that myself. Great thinking! We really do have a great shot for getting Ron Paul ahead in Michigan. We just need to spread the word, because a lot of voters still don't know who he is, surprisingly enough. I recommend everyone take little home made Ron Paul signs to their work if it's allowed and advertise for him.
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CNN admitted they have only reported on Ron Paul 4,095 times since august VS. twice that coverage for McCain.
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State Reply
I have not heard about the judge overturning anything, but, I just recently messaged the secretary of state in Michigan asking them if I needed to change my party in order to vote Republican in the primaries. They replied saying that the primaries in Michigan are 'Open' and you do not have to declare your party prior to voting.
Hope that helps.
Ditto looking for info
I don't hear much about Ron Paul in MI, and I really feel there could be a nice push here with all the problems Democrats have handed us.
Any other Michigan folk with some answers?
-James
True... especially since the
True... especially since the Democratic governor is not too popular with the new taxes she has passed on the service sector.
-Roderic