We don't need oil or gasoline! ALCOHOL - The original MOTHER of all alternative fuels
The real reason for the prohibiltion of alcohol!
We don't need gasoline; we never needed it!
Learn how to run your car on alcohol!
Facts: Scientific and historical about gasoline and alcohol
1. The original automobiles ran on alcohol because when they were invented, gasoline was not available.
2. Rockefeller spent $4 million (that we know of) to promote Prohibition, a ban on alcohol manufacturing in the US that started in 1919 just as the car industry was taking off.
3. When Prohibition was lifted in 1933, gasoline stations were ubiquitous and most engines ran on gasoline only.
4. Alcohol can be manufactured locally and on a community level from renewable plant material for $1 per gallon.
5. The growing of plant material for alcohol would have no effect on the price of food.
6. The growing of plants for fuel would more than neutralize the carbon created by burning alcohol for fuel.
7. In Brazil, over 50% of new cars sold can already run on 100% alcohol.
8. Producing alcohol from plant material is incredibly energy efficient.
9. The oil companies aggressively promote garbage science to deceive the public into believing that alcohol fuels: a) will cause starvation, b) are uneconomical, and c) are net polluters.
10. Gasoline is a high toxic material.
11. It is entirely unneeded to fuel our cars.
12. Oil companies like Chevron have pressured PBS, commercial TV networks and other news media to keep this basic information from the public for decades - and the censorship continues to this day.
Get together with your community to farm beet sugar, etc. to make alcohol! Many cars can run on alcohol with $200 convertor kit!
To learn more, GO to "Alcohol Can Be A Gas!" - David Blume's website
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I have the condensor part built though.
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Can be done and no need for Standard oil.
Sugarcane is squeezed to extract the liquid and pulp, then the stock of the plant is burned as the source of heat for producing the alcohol. The Co2 the burnt plant and the consumed alcohol is released into the air and of course recaptured by next years crop. The same can be done with hemp or other crop with similar characteristics. The technology already exists, has for hundreds of years, we just need to refine it.
grant
Michigan too, yet we have to import petroleum?
Here in Michigan they pay farmers not to produce as well. Not to mention that they pay not to produce milk and have come through many times to buy cows to slaughter. There is no such thing as free market, we live in a socialist country. When are the people going to wake up.
Buy, sell and invest locally.
There is a better way, every body just needs to take all their money out of the bank, stock market and government T-bills. Then go buy food, supplies, silver and gold. Use the silver and gold to start local businesses and trade. Invest in your local communities and don't lend money to anyone unless you know where they live and can look them in the eye. This is how it was done when the Constitution was written...
grant
The not
enough farmland idea is pure bullshit. In Idaho where I live there are farmers who make living fro the FedGov paying them not to farm. Its called CRP! The farm land argument holds no water!!!
Boy if everyone only knew.
you could get 2000 gallons of Methanol form 2 acres of Hemp and that refineries are already set up to run this process people would be irate..
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I already know and I'm irate
I'm working on my neighborhood to set up a barter system. Someone makes the DIY alcohol still, gets the free permit for ethanol fuel from the govmt for personal use, someone else installs the converters cheap, and we never have to buy stinking gas at the pump again. I think we'll be using spring grass.
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Should allow competing alcohol production, hemp, potatoes, cane.
Local farming communities could have an alcohol industry, all over the country to provide this alternative. It creates local jobs and is better for the environment.
Buy, sell and invest locally.
There is a better way, every body just needs to take all their money out of the bank, stock market and government T-bills. Then go buy food, supplies, silver and gold. Use the silver and gold to start local businesses and trade. Invest in your local communities and don't lend money to anyone unless you know where they live and can look them in the eye. This is how it was done when the Constitution was written.
grant
Why make your own fuel? Because you can!
Thanks for this new link hawkieye:
http://running_on_alcohol.tripod.com/index.html
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Petroleum cartel Statism...
People knew about this 90 years ago, but the law didn't allow them to use alternative fuels. It's called Statism. We want free markets, not the lie they sell us.
grant
There are even areas in the
There are even areas in the U.S. where sugarcane grows, but there are so many products that could be used if the State didn't protect the petroleum industry.
grant
um, not so much
The land area requirements, and the energy requirements for processing mean that we can't come close to producing enough Alcohol to fuel everything we need. There is just not enough available arable land. (since alot must be used for food. )
Oil is used because it it easily processed, and uses a relatively small land area to produce lots of energy.
Now using Algae maybe, but in the end, energy conservation is the first key, connecting electric cars to Nuke plants would be the best. If you want the political advantages of distributed sources, you need to develop better ways of producing electricity, like a windmill that powers a genorator, that provides energy for your car.
Another myth. We would only
Another myth.
We would only need about 11-13 percent of farmlands to produce enough alcohol. Whats more there are many plants like cattails and mesquite that are high producers of alcohol that don't require farmland.
Brazil only uses about one percent of their farmlands to produce alcohol and they are energy independent They have proven it can be done you can't argue with results.
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A story from "sugar beet country"
Idaho is known as potato country, but they have a big sugar beet processing plant in Nampa. Many local farmers were convinced they would really make it big in beets. What they were not told was very important in this desert climate:
"...the difference between the seasonal gross water requirements of sugar beets and corn is 53%"
http://www.extsoilcrop.colostate.edu/Newsletters/2003/Drough...
And for those of you who don't like chemicals on your property, they are very labor intensive if you don't spray.
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.
The good news is there a
The good news is there a many things that can be grown like fodder beats or Jerusalem artichokes that require less water. Even corn is not as bad as it is made out to be it is in the middle of as far as efficient producers of alcohol. And the by product after distilling is a very highly nutritious animal feed. Mores so then before it is put through the distilling process.
Sugar beats are very high producers of alcohol also.
One of the things David Blume emphasis is is the decentralized smaller regional and local plants to get away from the gasoline model of big corporate centralized processing. When Alcohol is done this way they often throw away the by product because it is to far away from the farms and not cost effective to ship it back to the farm areas
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Where I live they grow sugar beets too....
and I have heard recently that they are GMO. Are they where you live?
Community production and spread the wealth.
One way of making alcohol production practical is to set up refineries in farming communities. Of course farmers can always produce it themselves, but in large scale it would be more efficient if farming communities invested in a local refinery to take their product and have them distill it. This kind of system could be set up all over the country instead of just in Texas as petroleum primarily only this State.
grant
Alcohol is very good and good for farmers too.
In Brazil, with the use of sugarcane for making alcohol, there is no need for an outside source of energy since they use the stock of the plant to burn for processing. The same can be said if hemp were to be used in the States.
As for CO2 production, there is no problem because what is released is reabsorbed by the next years crop. CO2 is converted into O2 for us to breath and C is stored again in the plants.
main thing is energy
my father built a small alcohol plant in '81, for a farmer to be self sufficient
this is his take on the Dave Blumes theory
The main thing is energy in and energy out. To make 1 gallon of alcohol it takes close to 110,000 BTU to cook, kill bacteria, run transfer pumps,
run the still to separate the alcohol from the water.
You get 92,000 BTU,s from 1 gallon alcohol, 190 proof. or 95% alcohol 5% water.
To get 200 proof alcohol it has to be dried in another process, using more energy yet.
Thats just the beginning. When you ferment the starch to sugar, sugar to alcohol you get a shit load of CO2 or carbon dioxide off the fermentors.
A friend damb near past out cleaning out the ferment tanks after they were empty.
We vented the CO2 out the roof vents. I can't find anywhere How much CO2 comes off a 1000 gal fermentor, I am almost positive it is a lot. at least 50% of of what 92,000 BTU's of coal put into the air.
If you use all electricity to make alcohol, you do the math!!!!!!
I would have to look it up but I think a gallon of coal is about 180,000 to 200,000 BTU's.
Just guessing.
You have to have 200 proof alcohol to blend or put into tanks or you will eventually get water in your fuel tanks, injectors, pumps, Big problems. Rust and things.
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Ok so on that Revenor site
Ok so on that Revenor site it said you could get a permit to make alcohol...has anyone been through that process? Is it easy or hard?
Definitely...
why Hemp production in America is Illegal. If we used hemp,we wouldn't have to use food. Great info by the way.
I am so depressed about the
I am so depressed about the GEET guy Paul Pantone when reading this thread. He came up when I put it in the search engine. Does anyone know about him?
Disgusting. Utah sounds like a creepy place to be.
I feel compelled to help.
Great post. I have had
Great post. I have had Davids book for several months very enlightening. Almost all the negative crap you have heard about Ethanol is wrong. We could be energy independent is short order. This is something patriots can do to become self sufficient.
Here are some plans that many folks use to today for a proven design from Robert Warren who worked with David Blume in the past.
http://running_on_alcohol.tripod.com/index.html
I have these plans but have not built the still yet.
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Ready made
Ready made stills.
http://www.revenoor.com/GenWebPage.ihtml?formid=1
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Wait, I just heard that I
Wait, I just heard that I can't put alcohol in my kind of car a newer Honda Accord. That they were not designed to put Alcohol in them. I do remember the dealer saying never to put high octane fuel in it..Or the super..
Anyone? Is this true?
Wait, I just heard that I
Wait, I just heard that I can't put alcohol in my kind of car a newer Honda Accord. That they were not designed to put Alcohol in them. I do remember the dealer saying never to put high octane fuel in it..Or the super..
Anyone? Is this true?
Not true you can run up to
Not true you can run up to 50% ethanol without any modifications
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End The Fat
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There are also ways to make biodiesel out of soybean.
Alcohol cars are great.
New technology in Brazil makes flex vehicle much more practical. In the off season for production of sugarcane the price of gasoline may be a little cheaper and so the car uses gasoline, but even so gasoline in Brazil is mixed with 20% alcohol.
So there is a choice to use pure alcohol or gasoline with 20% alcohol.
And this in a country that is self sufficient in petroleum. New offshore discoveries should make Brazil a major exporter in the future.
grant
Here's a good link.
http://hemp-ethanol.blogspot.com/2008_01_01_archive.html
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Yes hemp is the fuel of the future
But right now it's illegal to grow it so we'll have to make do with other grass like switchgrass, I think it's growing all over my front yard.
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