The pope is pissed because less people believe in god :( boo hoo !
Modern culture is destroying faith, pope warns
Published: Sunday October 5, 2008
ROME (AFP) — Pope Benedict XVI attacked the Godless character of modern culture as he celebrated mass Sunday in a Roman basilica to mark the opening of a synod of Catholic bishops.
In a sombre homily in which he suggested that Christianity in Europe could become extinct like some Christian communities in history, the pope told more than 250 bishops from around the world that societies which rebelled against God in the past had faced His "punishment".
"If we look at history we are forced to notice the frequent coldness and rebellion of incoherent Christians. Because of this, God, while never shirking in his promise of salvation, often had to turn towards punishment," he said.
Benedict warned that "nations once rich in faith and vocations are losing their own identity under the harmful and destructive influence of a certain modern culture.
"There are those that, having decided that 'God is dead,' declare themselves 'god,' believing themselves to be the only creator of their own fate, the absolute owner of the world," the German-born pope said.
"When men proclaim themselves absolute owners of themselves and the only masters of creation, are they really going to be able to construct a society where freedom, justice and peace reign?
"Is it not more likely -- as demonstrated by news headlines every day -- that the arbitrary rule of power, selfish interests, injustice and exploitation, and violence in all its forms, will extend their grip?"
The pontiff was celebrating mass in the Basilica of St Paul outside the Walls in central Rome, which houses the tomb of the Apostle Paul.
Benedict however tempered his speech by saying "if in certain regions, faith weakens to the point of fading away, there will always be other people ready to receive it," adding "evil and death never have the final word."
The synod, a three-week gathering of more than 250 bishops from around the world, will discuss Christian fundamentalism and the relationship between religion and science as well as Judaism.
The second such gathering to be presided over by Benedict since his election in 2005 will have the theme "The Word of God in the Life and Mission of the Church."
For the first time, the event will include a speech on October 18 by Bartholomew I, the head of the Greek Orthodox Church, and Protestant and Anglican prelates are to attend as observers.
Israeli Rabbi Shear-Yashuv Cohen will also become the first Jewish representative to address a Roman Catholic synod when he talks about themes of the Bible on Monday.
The synod is a consultative body created in 1965 to facilitate contacts among bishops, who represent 1.1 billion Catholics around the world, and to help the pope set policies for running the Church.
Of the 253 archbishops, bishops and cardinals summoned to the synod, 51 are from Africa, 62 from the Americas, 41 from Asia, 90 from Europe and nine from the Pacific.
Another 41 experts including six women and 37 observers are to take part in the gathering in which three former Italian presidents and Oscar-winning actor Roberto Benigni have also agreed to read from the Bible.





















Religion is like all the major institutions
"Doctors destroy health,
lawyers destroy justice,
psychiatrists destroy minds,
scientists destroy truth,
major media destroys information,
religions destroy spirituality and
governments destroy freedom."
Michael Ellner ( HEAL )
If religion was promoting spirituality, more people would believe in God.
Oh
You say the Pope, oop correction: pope is German, heil Benedict.
The Pope can kiss my
The Pope can kiss my ass.
"You are a den of vipers. I intend to rout you out and by the Eternal God I will rout you out. If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking system, there would be a revolution before morning." --Andrew Jackson,
1828
“It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds”
-Sam Adams
This will sound vague
but I swear evangelicals don't understand Catholics, and non-Christians don't understand Christian faith. I don't think some of you for all of your talk of seeing the light and understanding how our govt. controls and manipulates us, have the first idea of how to think logically.
wjenkins
and all, I hope my comment above makes this a little clearer.
Three things that I can say are wrong about Catholicism
-The Lord said the only way to the Father was through the Son, why do you have to confess your sins to a priest, a priest is not the Son.
-Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy. One of the Ten Commandments. The Sabbath is supposed to be the seventh day of the week, which if you look at your calendar, is Saturday, not Sunday.
-If when Jesus was sacrificied we were to sacrifice no more, why is it every mass that the Catholic Church offers the body of Christ for it's congregation to eat?
There are many more than that, but that is why I chose Christianity over Catholicism, I have to fight with my dad about it all the time. He is pretty stubborn. Catholicism is filled with rituals that are totally the opposite of the true Bible teachings.
I am not trying to bash Catholics, I used to be one, but after actually reading the Bible, there were just too many discrepencies.
Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine
The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!
A reply to your statements
!st- The Catholic priest is a representative of Jesus on earth, that is why we were all shocked at the molestation cases in the USA, they as well as all will have to answer for our action's.
2nd- The Sabbath is celebrated in the Catholic church on Saturday and Sunday since the Vatican II conference in the 60's.
3rd- We celebrate the Body of Christ to always remember what Jesus did for all of us when he suffered and died on the cross and it will always be celebrated until Jesus returns as he will.
A true Catholic will adore Jesus in the tabernacle of which he is present in all churches,as a Catholic I will say that a majority of Catholic's in the USA are
very shallow in there voting habit's, they all tend to vote for the Pro-Life candidate and now against stem-cell research of which I am for as long as they leave the fetus alone, Dr. Paul also believes that way too.
A Roman Catholic excepts and acts to the best of there human ability to be responsible not to the church but to God and when you do that then the church acts as we all should in a God fearing way, that is sorely lacked these days.
I call myself a Roman Catholic and not a Teddy Kennedy American Catholic.
"Freedom is a right that can never be won in war,only by each individual "
Call no man your Father Matt.23:9
(In holy terms)
"Observe the masses,and do the opposite."
"Observe the masses,and do the opposite."
I don't know about the first
I don't know about the first two, but the third I think is because Christ instructed them to repeat and follow his request to take his body and blood.
He said how only those who ate his body and blood/accepted him could enter heaven... well, then that would only be the apostles and no one else....
I dunno... I'm not thoroughly educated when it comes to Catholic dogma.... I guess I'm a bad Catholic.
Good!
The Pope can "now" start his phony miracles to deceive his ignorant flock back to "his" fold.
Long Live The Antichrist
Psst! The Anti-Christ isn't
Psst! The Anti-Christ isn't real either.
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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore
Hey!
Psst! I don't think it's this one, not this pope. Psst, psst
update:
but this makes a lot of sense, they will bring in another pope, much younger, say 33 years of age, too deceive their flock back, a charismatic fella to entice the young, you know, a good looker
people are easily swayed by a good looker, like:
Clinton
Elvis
etc.
note: I didn't say Clinton was good looker but he's better than a lot of's, and, he doesn't actually say anything, but people are awed by him, by his lies, he spews dung
note: Elvis makes people silly, he wore make-up you know
I dunno...the spirit maybe so, maybe not
the effects, it's real.
watch "the arrivals" on you tube. You may look at a little differently.
Explore Orthodox Christianity
dayum- thats like 3 days long
theres like a "part 38". Is there a specific segment that stands out?
Live Free or Diebold
On a lighter note
I hear "Religulous" is very good.
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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore
As a Roman Catholic
what and why would the Pope be so surprised at less people believing in God
with the way our draft dodging priest's molested innocent kid's that in itself would totally undermine the Church not God with all people of the Catholic faith.
I find it simply amazing that anybody can actually believe there is no God or to believe in him is silly that is ridiculous.
I got to say as other's have noted that when times get really bad that I will hope and pray that you turn to God for help, you might not get it as fast as you wish for but as with all life you have to take one step at a time and believe.
"Freedom is a right that can never be won in war,only by each individual "
because
the contributions are down, more than likely.
I think what the Pope really means is
that they know now that too many people begin to think for themselves and they (political leaders and religous leaders) are losing control over the masses! Organized churches and religions are nothing but indoctrination and suppression/oppression, little to do with believing in God.
)And we are told that we have to say what we mean and mean what we say)
This is a good point
I feel more closer to God and see His work...I do not even attend church.
gigione
exactly
i only went to church as a kid because my parents dragged me there and i hated it. ever since i left the religion 30 years ago i actually feel closer to the real god than i ever did.
Not productive!
Hmmm....it's interesting that the Democrats and Republicans like to reinforce "us" versus "them" categories (blacks vs whites/christians vs not christians/native English speakers vs everyone else, etc.) to promote division in our society and make us more controllable.
Any chance, sentinel, that your brain was on R and R when you decided to post this oh so unifying little gem? Because it looks to me like you're in the wrong camp, soldier.
"Dependence begets subservience and venality, suffocates the germ of virtue, and prepares fit tools for the designs of ambition." -- Thomas Jefferson
I believe in God and...
I believe in satan, (ie: bush, mccain, obama, rumsfeld, cheney, the clintons', menendez, lautenberg, specter, casey, murdoch, rice, paulson, bernake, etc.)
The list is very, very long so add in 68 more senators, 400 + congressmen and about 100 additional media moguls and there you go.
I could never believe in god because......
well it's just so damned silly :) I hear the easter bunny and santa clause are trying to promote themselves too since the holiday seasons are coming up again. consume , consume , consume !
~Mikael / Peace, love, Light and unity ~
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Stop the NWO....It's just illumi..Naughty !
we'll try to keep the Jesus cooties off ya
as long as you do your best to keep the Zeitgeist/Jetsons cooties offa us...deal? : )
Live Free or Diebold
hey !!!!!!!!!!!! I resent that !
I liked the jetsons ,, doot doot doo doot do do doot doo doo doot do doot meet george jetson ........ doot doot doo doot doot doo doot doot doot doo doot dot doot doot ! daughter judy !!
~Mikael / Peace, love, Light and unity ~
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Stop the NWO....It's just illumi..Naughty !
I forget - was that Tiffany or Debbie Gibson
that was the voice of Judy?- always got those 2 confused...either way- HOT
Live Free or Diebold
I once sat with my guitar for hours
in front of my piano trying to replicate the theme song to that cartoon and I couldn't do it.that is easily one of the toughest pieces of theme show music ever written.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuqVXD1lreQ
~Mikael / Peace, love, Light and unity ~
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Stop the NWO....It's just illumi..Naughty !
ha! that IS a production
*in dry-assed heavily sedated monotone voice* ; ".. donation lines are open til the top of the hour, your generous contributions to help keep us on the air are appreciated as always. Now we bring you The Jetsons Theme Opus 29 in D minor performed by the Boston Philharmonic , conducted by Sir Neville Mariner in the field"
Live Free or Diebold
:oP
~Mikael / Peace, love, Light and unity ~
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Stop the NWO....It's just illumi..Naughty !
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