Fed Income Tax Revolt

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Is it really possible to not pay fed income tax and get away with it? We all have read about people allegedly doing this, but can it really be accomplished? If so, I would propose that we all show our dissatisfaction with our federal government by refusing to pay.

If anyone knows how to do this, please post the steps it would take.

I am just fed up with my tax dollars supporting healthy, lazy, non-working welfare recipients AND now the rich elitists through the bailout debacle...

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And

When Martial Law is enacted - that suspends the Constitution

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Just know the the IRS has more power than the FBI & no oversight

You are guilty, period. And when you are guilty they slap a Federal Tax Lien on you and you essentially own nothing. They will take all of your money out of your bank accounts and leverage your credit cards.

When you go up against the IRS you are going up against Organized Crime at the highest level.

The best way I have found around taxes is to work outside of the U.S. and meet the IRS Test of Physical Presence in your foriegn tax home. If you dont have to pay an income tax there, you are all set. Perfectly legal and no tax liability.

If you do want to go on this Crusade in the USSA you might want to see how that worked out for Ed and Elain Brown.

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how to do it..

• Stop living with a "number" (e.g. social)
• Have no debts/credit attached to that number
• Stop filing out Government forms that make you admit you are something that you are not. e.g. A US Citizen for tax purposes.
• Look up the terms Citizen, US Person and taxpayers in the IRS code

Then you'll need to do lots of reading. and I mean lots. Read the statues, not some wacked out website.

Good luck, I've tried to do it, but it's more work than it was worth. It's easier to write off everything possible. Get a good tax attorney/accountant and make it so that you earn very little.

You need to start a business. Work for yourself.

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A great empire, like a great cake, is most easily diminished at the edges. - Ben Franklin

Now that the Fed simply

Now that the Fed simply prints as much money as it needs, why do we even pay taxes? They obviously don't need our money that badly.

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"Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils." -- General John Stark.

They might...

let us get away with that if we accept there terms.

Stop Paying!

Who has the money to pay after all this poopoo going on? I know we don't since this bail out deal we have dropped in the sewer sort of speak punt intended. We are a small plumbing company! This would have been one of our best years since 2002 when we started but now we have slowed way down!

Idaho

Idaho law school of common law and George Gordon's school of common law clearly show the nexus. If you apply for LLC then you agree the 14th amendment was indeed ratified. The school of common law:

1. The birth certificate makes you a ward of the state - by LAW - it is a contract your parents entered into on your behalf to make you a ward of the state. Nexus one.
2. Your SSSN is the nexus to your contract of employment.
3. Your Driver's License is the nexus to your giving up your right to travel for a privilege to drive.

Many patriots argue these points, in court, an fail because they have one of the three nexus above. A free born American is the only one who does not have these contracts. Dan Pilla wrote how to lick the IRS with a postage stamp - a very good book. Irwin Schiff had his own problems. Public schools have done a great job in uneducating Americans on their freedom & liberty and Congress has done a great job in stealing them - however - if unconstitutional law is passed it has to be moot.

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They key is getting the numbers

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And, more importantly and inspiringly, another user replied:

Heck, if a million others do it, then I sure will.

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I heard that 37 million

I heard that 37 million people in the US do NOT file tax returns.

stop working for someone else

I would propose that we all show our dissatisfaction with our federal government by refusing to pay.

I stopped working after my CPA said, "no income, no income tax".

If you want to keep working, set up an LLC and go independent. Corps/LLCs can write off just about everything before taxes. Depending on how much you need to work/earn, the business can deduct just about everything for office rent, phone, internet, vehicle, etc.

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Nuff said.

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I don't think so

RIGHT ...They already get to your paycheck before you do ...Your employer hands the taxes over for you ...
weee

You can take a legal route

You can take a legal route that is not considered a tax evasion tactic, but it places the burden of collecting your taxes on the IRS instead of your employer; it is called the W-4T. You voluntarily entered into an agreement with your employer to collect taxes on behalf of the IRS, this agreement can be legally terminated, according to the IRS Code. At that point you must simply prove that you are a citizen, but your employer can no longer collect withholding taxes from your paycheck and can no longer use your SSN to report your wages to the IRS.

If nothing else, if done en masse, it would pose a paper-work nightmare for the bureaucrats. Think about it if millions, or even less than that all terminated their voluntary W-4 agreements.

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hmmm...

you may have something here.. The paperwork nightmare.

Republicae, Are there any

Republicae,

Are there any results people have published on their success or how the IRS reacted etc? Also what about someone who gets a 1099? I have had people refuse to give me work unless I gave an SSN or EIN so they could 1099 me?

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get an LLC

LLC will have it's own taxpayer ID.

proceed at your own risk, tax revolters are heroes in my book...

Anyone who refuses to pay takes on a risk. Definitely research and figure out what you are getting into. The IRS are a bunch of jack booted thugs with no respect for human or property rights...a bunch of gun weilding totalitarian flunkies who can't get a job in the free market sector and expect the productive economy to put up with their thievery.

Anyway, there will most likely be a wide scale tax revolt as there was during the great depression. People will simply refuse to pay as a means to survive. I cannot wait until these jackasses see the money they are able to steal plummet, maybe then they can go get real jobs like normal people.

"Truth is treason in the empire of lies." - Ron Paul

There are lots of winners

there are so many people not filing and paying the IRS needed to steal more power to go after them.

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think of it in terms of

think of it in terms of slave trying to get away from the slave master. The slave master will do everything possible to destroy in hopes you run around and tell everyone how they hurt you, terrifying everyone to never go against the IRS.
I say spend some teaching groups the constitution and build an army of educated people and battle at a local level, get educated people in to office.
If you try to go against the IRS you will get caught in their web and consume 100% of your resources. Save this battle for another day, go door knocking, town hall meetings build the army.

YES

There is a way to do it. Go through the legal channels. Cracking the code will tell you how to do it step by step.

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Don't just decide to not file. This will get you in jail and fined. If your employer sends wage information to the feds you must make a counter claim that you had no taxable income. If you don't file you are automatically guilty.

Also Check out the lastest update on

how many have gotten their money back. from the IRS...that can be found there.

Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips

But that man should play the tyrant over God, and find Him a better man than himself, is astonishing drama indeed!~~D. Sayers

There is no difference between an authoritarian government from the right or the left...F. A.Schaeffer

And how we burned in the

And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say goodbye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling in terror
at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand. The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst; the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!"
- The Gulag Archipelago, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

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Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. H. L. Mencken

Get Prepared!

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Get Prepared!

ONLY through a mass movement ( excess of 50% ) can a tax

revolt succeed. Let's work on that goal.

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Your exemptions/allowances

Your exemptions/allowances are claimed on a W-4 not a W-2. The W-2 is what your employer (a legally defined TERM- probably not what you think!) gives to you as a receipt of your taxable wages (also a legal TERM). The employer sends an electronic copy of the W-2 to the IRS via a W-3 transmittal.

There IS a way to legally not pay a Federal income tax assuming that you are not engaged in a taxable activity or earn other taxable income from another source (i.e.- interest bearing savings account earns income). It's not really rocket science...

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I've been doing this since 2002.

File Tax Exempt On You W-2

Claim 5 to - 7 exemptions. Take tax money, open a small business, like Amway or Shaklee and don't sell and show a loss.

Deb

Deb

Don't do it...

Even if you win, you lose. The IRS doesn't respect individual rights or rule of law, and the bailout gives them even more power. Former IRS agent Sherry Peel Jackson is serving 4 years in Federal Prison, even though she broke no laws, and I'm out about $100,000, when means I got to subsidize IRS tyranny even more than if I'd just paid their extortion.

If there is a nonviolent solution, I haven't found it.

Failure to file

Failure to file is what Wesley Snipes got convicted with I think. He was aqcuited though on tax evasion.