Submitted by raisputin on Wed, 10/08/2008 - 15:11.
I guessed 4-6% down, not bad. I should have finished my calcs based on the other market...but then I would have came up with ~5.43% and been more off :)
There are companies with $8 a share in cash selling for $18 a share.
Some of these share prices have gotten simply ridiculous.
When you sell for the sake of selling it is just as stupid as buying for the sake of buying.
Now to the point. I read of people whose retirement accounts have been hurt by the weak dow.
The stock market is a casino. It has proven to be a high risk investment vehicle time and again over the last 100 years.
If you have had all of your retirement funds in stocks then you have made a mistake and I am sorry you have suffered. I got creamed in the nasdaq crash long ago and learned my lesson.
I will say this and have said it before.
There is a TON of money waiting on the sidelines. I mean a TON.
The sharks are waiting for the scared little fishies to sell their stocks and run away...I know it because that is what the sharks ALWAYS do.
Unsophisticated investors buy at the top and sell at the bottom. That's is how the brokers make the money to buy big houses with.
The smart guys? They buy at the bottom and sell before it hits the top.
It is a greed machine and people get ground up in the gears.....unless they are smart.
If you must, with money you can afford to lose, you buy when there is BLOOD IN THE STREETS.
If you do not have the cojones to tolerate swings DO NOT PUT MONEY IN THE STOCK MARKET...OK? DON'T. Take 10% of your time in front of the TV and shut it off...then...study economics and finance.
Then you will see MDC is trading at $33 a share. This company has $28 a share in CASH. You will learn to define quality of the investment and make it because you understand why...not because some idiot like Kramer is telling you what to do. Then if you make a profit you will know how to manage the profit instead of listening to some idiot investment adviser whose worried about his TEE TIME.
Learn this. Never I repeat EVER fail to diversify your investments.
A little of this and a little of that and only money you can lose in the casino known as the Dow.
If you understood exactly what a share of stock is you would realize it is a VERY VERY RISKY investment. If a company struggles, shareholders get NOTHING....NOTHING...NOTHING.
I know little old ladies who go to the casino once a week/ They take what they can afford to lose and that is all.
When you go to the stock market? Only take what you can afford to lose and you will be as smart as the little old lady at the slot parlor.
Submitted by raisputin on Wed, 10/08/2008 - 13:35.
Just blew me away is all considering. I have no many in the stock market, no 401k, nothing, so it doesn't matter to me at all. I was just curious if anyone knew what caused the sudden upward trend :)
The stock market is based on printed paper like the monopoly game is, so there is no bottom except the bottom in peoples minds.
So the slide could slow, stop, or continue on for a very long time.
If the paper was backed by gold or silver there could be a predictable bottom but not with fiat currency.
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Freedom is a movement who's time has come. Our campaign will lead world wide freedom.
Eventually the market's gonna match the price of gold and then the media's gonna start saying depression then we're all screwed. Anyone take their money out of the bank yet?
It will be 0 by the time
It will be 0 by the time it's all said and done.
Dow closes 10/08/08
Index Value: 9,258.10
Trade Time: 4:09PM ET 10/08/08
Change: Down 189.01 (2.00%)
Prev Close: 9,447.11
Open: 9,437.23
-291...3%
I guessed 4-6% down, not bad. I should have finished my calcs based on the other market...but then I would have came up with ~5.43% and been more off :)
heh, cnn.com shows it as -63
heh, cnn.com shows it as -63 now...weird.
-199.44
and counting. I knew it would drop at the very end.
Well my -50 to -100
was a little off.
-130 and I have to go to
-130 and I have to go to work. I wont know how it closes until 10:15pm!
-157. I bet $20
-157. I bet $20
-72 as of 3:51, lol
-72 as of 3:51, lol
It's that time of day to watch
It can be seen live here: http://www.livecharts.co.uk/MarketCharts/dow.php
The support level it was just testing seems to be failing right at the moment. 2:45 pm
It often seems to make major moves between 2pm est and 4pm est. I'm thinking back down a bit by days end.
The market has become the flipside of "irrational exuberance"
There are companies with $8 a share in cash selling for $18 a share.
Some of these share prices have gotten simply ridiculous.
When you sell for the sake of selling it is just as stupid as buying for the sake of buying.
Now to the point. I read of people whose retirement accounts have been hurt by the weak dow.
The stock market is a casino. It has proven to be a high risk investment vehicle time and again over the last 100 years.
If you have had all of your retirement funds in stocks then you have made a mistake and I am sorry you have suffered. I got creamed in the nasdaq crash long ago and learned my lesson.
I will say this and have said it before.
There is a TON of money waiting on the sidelines. I mean a TON.
The sharks are waiting for the scared little fishies to sell their stocks and run away...I know it because that is what the sharks ALWAYS do.
Unsophisticated investors buy at the top and sell at the bottom. That's is how the brokers make the money to buy big houses with.
The smart guys? They buy at the bottom and sell before it hits the top.
It is a greed machine and people get ground up in the gears.....unless they are smart.
If you must, with money you can afford to lose, you buy when there is BLOOD IN THE STREETS.
If you do not have the cojones to tolerate swings DO NOT PUT MONEY IN THE STOCK MARKET...OK? DON'T. Take 10% of your time in front of the TV and shut it off...then...study economics and finance.
Then you will see MDC is trading at $33 a share. This company has $28 a share in CASH. You will learn to define quality of the investment and make it because you understand why...not because some idiot like Kramer is telling you what to do. Then if you make a profit you will know how to manage the profit instead of listening to some idiot investment adviser whose worried about his TEE TIME.
Learn this. Never I repeat EVER fail to diversify your investments.
A little of this and a little of that and only money you can lose in the casino known as the Dow.
If you understood exactly what a share of stock is you would realize it is a VERY VERY RISKY investment. If a company struggles, shareholders get NOTHING....NOTHING...NOTHING.
I know little old ladies who go to the casino once a week/ They take what they can afford to lose and that is all.
When you go to the stock market? Only take what you can afford to lose and you will be as smart as the little old lady at the slot parlor.
Unify
DOW +120???
What's up with that sudden surge upward?
Watching the dow all day will make you sad
You want to be like the guys in the pictures on the trading floor?
Let it go.
Unify
Just blew me away is all
Just blew me away is all considering. I have no many in the stock market, no 401k, nothing, so it doesn't matter to me at all. I was just curious if anyone knew what caused the sudden upward trend :)
Paper money
The stock market is based on printed paper like the monopoly game is, so there is no bottom except the bottom in peoples minds.
So the slide could slow, stop, or continue on for a very long time.
If the paper was backed by gold or silver there could be a predictable bottom but not with fiat currency.
Liberty is our campaigns gift to the world it is our manifest destiny.
Freedom is a movement who's time has come. Our campaign will lead to world wide freedom.
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Freedom is a movement who's time has come. Our campaign will lead world wide freedom.
Not low enough. I won't be
Not low enough.
I won't be happy until the Dow hits 3000.
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crazy..
I've never seen a rollercoaster like today!
8,500
Maybe lower.
Cairo is down 11+ % at 9: 17 am PST
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Dow
Index Value: 9,220.27
Trade Time: 12:10PM ET 10/08/08
Change: Down 226.84 (2.40%)
Prev Close: 9,447.11
Open: 9,437.23
-4 - -6%
n/t
Do I get a prize?
8990 best guess
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Dude it's starting to twn downward bigtime... We are now -200
It's -200 right now ... I'm going out on a limb here and putting it at a 7.5% drop closing down 800 points...
-240 right now
Here we go ... This is the big day...
and then
someone injected the dead cat with defense grade rubber!... this is nuts.
Dude it's starting to twn downward bigtime... We are now -200
It's -200 right now ... I'm going out on a limb here and putting it at a 7.5% drop closing down 800 points...
Is it wrong to be an optimist?
Eventually the market's gonna match the price of gold and then the media's gonna start saying depression then we're all screwed. Anyone take their money out of the bank yet?
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I predict it will fall down another 5% today...
Imay fall below 9,000 I think maybe around 8,790
just below 9000
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If it crashes through 9,000 on the way down... panic
and emotion and the "psychological effect" of breaking that barrier takes over and drives it a couple of hundred lower.
Just as it did on the way down thru 12,000 -- 11,000 -- and 10,000.