What if? Regarding the FEMA Camps...
Someone here at DP posted yesterday that they would "take to the streets" if Obama was assassinated after becoming President. That statement sure has gotten me thinking quite a bit...
Who all remembers the 1992 LA riots?
The wikipedia page states that some of the underlying causes of those riots, in addition to the Rodney King verdict, was extremely high unemployment among residents of South Central LA (which was very hard hit by the nation-wide recession) as well as the long-standing negative perception about the LAPD.
Are we heading towards similar conditions, nationwide? Extremely high unemployment rates, nation-wide recession, negative perception of the police, etc?
What if things turn out like that in nearly every major city of the US, what if Obama becomes President and what if some nut job decides to do something crazy? Will we have a repeat of the 1992 LA riots, but instead of only one city going crazy and being burned to the ground it will be all the major cities throughout the country?
That leads me to the next thought about the FEMA camps. What if the FEMA camps are there for this reason? To round up and imprison anyone who participates in the act of destroying and burning cities across the US to the ground?
Then bring the US Military into the equation. The LAPD were utterly insufficient during the LA riots. The New Orleans PD couldn't keep order during Katrina. Chances are that the police forces across the US are not prepared or capable of handling any sort of nation-wide riots. The police would not be able to cope with anything of the sort, they would need help from the military.
Just some food for thought....
That's exactly what they're for
That's exactly what fema camps are for.
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why do they have to wait...
until he's elected? LOL
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Not only feasible...
I think they're counting on it!
My change to our scenario would simply be the fact that Obama will not win the election and will not need to be assassinated. In fact, he will be a bigger help by causing trouble after he loses.
McCain is the heir apparent to the current administration. He's 'kissed the ring' and fallen into lock-step with his overlords. Obama is a socialist and won't be allowed the opportunity.
The riots that ensue after Obama is defeated will trigger the crisis needed for martial law. Since we already have active-duty, combat trained troops deployed within the US (what a coincidence!) they will be instrumental in quelling these early disturbances. Later, as the problems erupt elsewhere, the 1st of the 3rd won't be enough to contain the problem. Since no one complained that active duty military is patrolling the streets, in fact they will probably applaud them initially, more troops will be deployed.
That is the 'end game' I'm looking at. After martial law exists and combat troops take to the streets, it's all over folks. The next day, you may wake up...but it won't be in any America you have known.
As Con Conagher told ol' man Tay..."Keep a rifle handy"
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I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
I'd been told that
the drug dealers would be some of the first to go to camps as 'everyone" wouldn't care if they were put away.
Then, with race still an issue, how many will revolt over his black supporters being put away.
Just questions I have...
I doubt there has ever been
I doubt there has ever been a single "nut job" who assassinated a US President. Seems someone or more in the government have to get together to make it happen. Obama will toe the CFR line, so he is safe..
And...
With all the 31 states ready to go broke...They won't be able to pay for police, fire, and emergency services. Hmmmmm. The pieces are all falling in to place suddenly...
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Obviously, the FEMA camps
Obviously, the FEMA camps are designed for controlling rioting urban Poor. They are a correction for the LA Riots and the Katrina looting incidents. They are not for internment of political prisoners (as conspiracy bugs in the Liberty movement have been erroneously chanting for years).
Nice to hear someone "getting it". They aren't going to throw us in FEMA camps.
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I guess that's
why they need FISA so bad huh? Just for the poor inner city types right? That will be the only ones? I wouldn't bet on that.
Yours, Kevin, is a fantasy
Yours, Kevin, is a fantasy that a little part of my mind would not let go of either - before the conventions this year and all the special cages made for those who disagree. The RNC was especially bad, with the local police doing their bidding of warrantless home invasions, warrantless seizures of private property and physical abuse of people whose only "crime" was the planning of peaceful protests. After what happened in St. Paul, I cannot believe the government will stop at anything to silence dissent.
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"They are a correction for
"They are a correction for the LA Riots and the Katrina looting incidents."
Proof Kevin hasn't a clue what he's talking about.
Plans for FEMA camps were well before the LA riots.
conspiracy bugs?
you have been banging that phrase for some time now kevin! Is the new world order a conspiracy? Ron Paul believes the nwo is real do you? by the way nwo is the biggest conspiracy THEORY YET TO DATE! pound sand loser! CONSPIRACY FACT! KEVIN FICTION
There's no doubt in my mind
that IF we could ever get a FAIR trial (which probably would never happen) that we would have no problem coming up with enough evidence to charge Bush/Cheney/Paulson/Rockefeller and the lot of them with conspiracy..along with fraud, treason and a bunch of other stuff.
Conspiracies obviously DO exist otherwise there wouldn't be a word for in it the friggin' English language, nor would they be against the LAW. It is a civil and criminal charge you know. They are actually quite common. They happen all the time. That's why laws against them have been in place for at least a few hundred years.
But fairly recently, because of MSM indoctrination, the definition seems to be changing from "two or more people working together towards some evil or illegal end" to being associated with tin foil hats, kool aid, and UFO chasers in an attempt to squash the truth.
To deny their existence would be aboslutely crazy; or flat out spreading disinformation.
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Actually I believe in more
Actually I believe in more conspiracies than Dr. Paul does, with his theory that 9-11 was caused by Arab terrorists and "blowback".
But there's a middle ground between the official propaganda of the government's minions and leaping off the Rense.com deep end, where I believe the actual truth lies. Conspiracy bugs don't go there.
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Kind of a scary attitude
"the FEMA camps aren't for us patriots; they're for the inner-city poor, so we don't have to worry about it (or care)"
What was the old phrase from Nazi Germany??..first they came for the Jews, then the Catholics, then the communists....
I didn't say it's a good
I didn't say it's a good thing--I'm just sick and tired of the wacko fearmongering in this movement.
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I agree Kevin. Ultimately no
I agree Kevin. Ultimately no one knows.
i agree with "thebulletproofvestofamythicalfigure777"...
they gunna do it to someone else - just right before they gunna do it to your ass. better believe it. i'm telling everyone, everywhere, every fucking day.
EVERY DAY _ EVERY MINUTE _ EVERY SECOND.
If you think Jesus was a mythical figure
Go read what the Talmud says about him. The evil ones fear and despise Christ. Heck, you're not even allowed to mention his name in Masonic temples.
Oh, and since you have no faith, I guess you won't bother thinking twice before you let them implant a chip in you. I have no idea how anyone can face the prospect of a New World Order with no faith in God.
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"I have no idea..."
Once again, instead of a coherent counter-argument, the theist simply confesses to his own failure of imagination and lack of mental flexibility.
If you'll believe in magic, you'll believe in anything.
How can anyone look at a rainbow, and not believe in the index of refraction?
How can anyone look at a new born baby, and not believe in natural selection?
How can anyone look at a single flower, and not believe in hydrogen bonding?
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Hey Professor
I have a degree in Chemical Engineering, so I'd be happy to discuss hydrogen bonding with you...on a different forum.
Ron Paul himself is a Christian with a very strong faith in God. That's how he can stand up to the NWO cronies and show NO FEAR. So why don't you accuse HIM of a "failure of imagination and lack of mental flexibility"?
BTW, it doesn't matter if YOU believe in Magick or not; the elite surely do.
Also, note that the father of modern science, Sir Isaac Newton, was an alchemist AND a Rosicrucian.
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Right behind you.
You get a certain look from people you are trying to warn. They have that look of being in a dream and laugh it off. Most wont get it until they are being rounded up onto trains, or have guns pointed in their face. At that point most will be in so much shock it wont register to them anyhow.
This bloated monster of a government isn't going to go quietly into the night.
The death throws of a viral fever are quite violent after many days of fighting the sickness.
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I guess that makes three....
It's going to take a higher power to get us out of this one. If you dont believe, that's your right. But to keep believing in man to save us, well... that's down right mental. Power corrupts man. You can take all your rocket science and your PHD's and throw them away, because it wont save you in the end. You have faith to wake up everyday and low and behold there is air to breath, you wake up everyday and there is water to drink, but you put your faith into men? There is more to it than that.
Yes, Of Course...........But.........
What makes you think the exigency which will be used to justify this 'limited and temporary' compromise to America's self-image has no room to accommodate peaceful political dissidents.
"They aren't going to throw us in FEMA camps."
Us and them?
"Under a government which imprisons unjustly, the true place for a just man is also a prison.”
--- Henry David Thoreau
On the Duty of Civil Disobedience
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I've thought the same thing
I've thought the same thing recently - I was here in LA for the 10th anniversary of the riots and there were some interviews of people saying "next time we take beverly hills"... that night at about 3am I heard automatic gun fire and thought it was on. Luckily it wasn't...
So, yeah, don't be surprised if this happens...
OR, what if at some point in
OR, what if at some point in the near future the government released a statement to the effect of there no longer being any entitlement money available? No more Social Security, no more Welfare, etc. Maybe not even permanently, but temporarily. It's already starting to happen with unemployment funds in at least 10 states.
Or if prices rose so high so fast due to inflation of the money supply that the entitlements couldn't keep pace...
How long would it be before people "take to the streets" when their checks stop arriving or when the money in their checks doesn't buy squat?
...
Get real. You couldn't touch
Get real. You couldn't touch Obama if your life depended on it and the elites aren't going to kill their own guy. Particularly when the guy has never even uttered the words federal reserve.
"I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever." - Thomas Jefferson
"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it."
Oh, they might... the Obama/Biden ticket looks like JFK/LBJ
And everyone could then get all teary-eyed over the Obama-Camelot years... the whole martyr thing again...
Which would then allow the Biden group a huge amount of room to do whatever they wanted... just like 9/11 allowed GWB to do whatever he wanted (do you remember that before 9/11 there was tremendous dissatisfaction and even the possibility of impeachment, partly over the whole fiasco/fraud of the 2000 election? After 9/11 all of that talk stopped dead in it's tracks and just about everyone [a few exceptions like myself] then "rallied behind" the supposed "Commander-In-Chief"... blech!!!)
So depending on whether Obama starts "feeling his oats" and acting TOO independently if/when he takes office... they could easily "off" him.
And then, much like JFK or Reagan (the Reagan/Bush ticket was the same, Reagan the populist with Bush the establishment faction guy -- Reagan was supposed to die; and instead they just had to slowly push the "Reagan people" out and supplant them with Bushites, aided by Reagan's senility -- by the end of the first term, Bush was essentially in charge and was President in all but name) -- anyway much like JFK or Reagan, the REAL insiders (the faction behind Biden) can have their way, with Biden winning at least the next ("second Obama") term based solely on the "mourning" factor.
Know this: Goldwater's MAIN mistake was in running during 1964 -- he would have won if he had run in 1968; and we've been paying the price for that mistake ever since. (Goldwater didn't lose to LBJ, he lost to the ghost/martyr named JFK and the whole "Camelot" mythos -- once that came crashing down with the reality of the criminal the LBJ was, even "Tricky-Dick" NIXON was preferable to any Democrat).
Hey man
I see your www.manofcommonsense.com is still up. Can you make another that's a one page summary of the Fed and the plan to end it? I've tried, but haven't gotten the fine points down or explained it as succinctly or forcefully as your original posters for Ron Paul.
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