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Illegal Immigrants" Constitutional Rights Violated?

A Connecticut federal judge has ordered hearings to determine whether the Constitutional rights of illegal immigrantssome of whom ignored deportation orderswere violated by federal agents who arrested them.

The case involves last summer"s arrest of 31 illegal immigrants by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents in the New Haven area. More than half had pending court cases in Hartford and five had been previously deported yet continued living in the area.

During a regional roundup of such violators, federal agents arrested the group last June and immigration advocates immediately accused authorities of racial profiling. Attorneys representing the illegal immigrants argued that the federal agents violated the U.S. Constitution"s fourth and fifth amendments by conducting illegal searches, lacking probable cause and arresting people based on race.
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Simply an NWO barrister

using delaying tactics to slow down the deportation process.

They'll eventually be repatriated to their home country, as is the proper course of action.

War on you is an interesting site but...

they copy paste everyone else's work without by lines and links just how trust worthy can someone like that be?

Hey WarOnYou clean up your act.

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offer a bounty

on illegals

confused

this one's always confused me, about our constitution and "aliens". maybe someone who's thought it through can answer?

A right doesn't exsist until someone Else recognizes it, right? Like the example of telling a boulder falling off a cliff that you have a right to life.

If it's not recognized by the other party, then there is no contract, right?

Those born here, and those who have Chosen to abide by the constitution then get the recognition of "rights", the rest don't, right? Or no?

Those who have chosen to come in against the constitution do not recognize my "right" to life, liberty, etc... so there is no contract with them, right?

It doesn't mean I can't Choose to recognize those "rights" in others, but since they've never entered the contract the right isn't there.

I don't know that the constitution was a contract with the world, or humanity, but with the states and their people, knowing that those outside don't recognize these rights. Then it's up to leading by example and others wanting to emulate, as opposed to forcing a worldview on other nations and states. Right?

Every time I think on this it seems my position can be taken as an endorsement of cruelty towards anyone not under the constitution. So I think I'm flawed somewhere, just not sure where. It's a choice to be cruel or not imo... like tools and freedoms can be used for good or bad, so can that position I guess?

The Constitution limits

the government. That means the government can't violate peoples' rights, whether within our borders or without, citizen or not unless it has been given that authority. If you view Consitutional rights more as what the government can't do rather than how they would go about doing it, it makes more sense - in an ideal world, anyway.

Defend Liberty!

That is the reason..

For the language of "all men having unalienable rights granted by their Creator".

Is an illegal alien a person with a Creator? Then they are constitutionally protected.

Hmmm... I wonder if this means as an athiest, I don't have any rights? Don't let that little loophole slip out or I'll end up in jail.

If we truely

believe that our rights are natural and are not given to us by government but we have them naturally then you have to believe they do.

Thank you Dr. Paul for making my act on what I already knew was right.

*May the only ones to touch your junk, be the ones you want to touch your junk.*

Absurd! Illegal immigrants have Constitutional rights????

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Open Season Or All Season ?

"The history of liberty has largely been the history of the observance of procedural safeguards."

--- Justice Felix Frankfurter

How To Relax Procedural Safeguards:

# 1 Go to the frontline

# 2 Find a disenfranchised, unsympathetic individual or group to target

# 3 Have your way with them

# 4 Foment the divide

# 5 Gas up the steamroller

# 6 Celebrate the conquest

#7 Trammel at will....

“A Man for All Seasons” is play about Sir Thomas Moore, a devout Catholic at a time when it was not very good for people to be devout Catholics, because the sovereign, the King of England, Henry VIII, was having his problems with the Catholic church.

Henry VIII was a monarch who made the law and enforced the law. Sir Thomas Moore was also the Lord Chancellor of England, the King’s minister, and a lawyer.

Here’s the scene: Sir Thomas Moore is being urged by his son-in-law, Roper and by his wife and daughter to arrest a man, a scoundrel, really, named Richard Rich. And Moore responds, as follows, referring to Rich:

“And go he should if he were the devil himself until he broke the law.”

Roper says, “So now you give the devil the benefit of the law.”

And Moore replies, “Yes, what would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the devil?”

Roper replies, “Yes, I’d cut down every law in England to do that.”

Moore responds as follows, and this is the part that I want you to think about:

“Oh? And when the last law was down and the devil turned round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, man’s laws, not God’s, and if you cut them down, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I’d give the devil the benefit of the law for my own safety’s sake.”

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/67993#comment-712420

Do Non-Citizens

Have the same rights as citizens under Our constitution?

"The sovereignty fetish is still so strong in the public mind, that there would appear to be little chance of winning popular assent to American membership in anything approaching a super-state organization. Much will depend on the kind of approach which is used in further popular education." - From The Council On Foreign Relations

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Yes.

Though don't ask the Rep's that question, because they will give you an incorrect answer.