What does this mean? GOP stripping delegates
Submitted by LibertyVote on Sat, 11/10/2007 - 14:43GOP Punishes Five Early-Voting States by Stripping Half Their Delegates
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,309756,00.html
I haven't seen any discussion of this and wonder what the ramifications are.
I've personally gone out to get delegate signatures in my state supporting Ron Paul. I wonder when they say they are going to 'punish' these early-voting states by stripping half their delegates, how exactly are the delegates that will be stripped determined?
I fear this is another tactic to hurt Ron Paul. Anyone know more about this??
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Not an attack on RP
This is an ongoing battle between the 'lesser' states political parties struggling to not be over shadowed by the 'greater' states.
Both parties are haveing issues with it, and instead of trying to develop a solution, they are punishing the offenders.
very very typical.
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From
From Republicansource.com
"Delegates are awarded based on the results of Primaries, Caucuses and/or Convention votes. There are significant differences in the way national convention delegates are chosen from state to state. Some states award delegates to candidates on a "winner-take-all" basis, meaning that the candidate with the most votes in a state during a primary election is awarded all of that state's delegates. Other states award delegates in proportion to each candidate's share of the primary vote.
Another important distinction is whether delegates are "bound" or "not bound" to vote for the same candidate the voters in his or her state or district supported in the primary. These rules also vary widely by state."
"You don't gain much by being angry. I see this more as an intellectual, philosophical fight than a political, personality fight." - Ron Paul
"You don't gain much by being angry. I see this more as an intellectual, philosophical fight than a political, personality fight." - Ron Paul
It sounds like in some
It sounds like in some states, they can vote as they see fit, regardless of who wins the primary. It is very important for us to become delegates in these states.
"You don't gain much by being angry. I see this more as an intellectual, philosophical fight than a political, personality fight." - Ron Paul
"You don't gain much by being angry. I see this more as an intellectual, philosophical fight than a political, personality fight." - Ron Paul
Delegate info
On RonPaulForums, there is a separate thread on how to become a delegate for (potentilly) each state. You don't have to worry about being known as a Ron Paul supporter: for most primaries, you have to be committed to a candidate.
Here is some more info,
Here is some more info, found on the website listed below.
"Before Ron Paul can get elected, he has to be nominated by delegates at the Republican National Convention which will take place in St. Paul, Minnesota. September 1-4, 2008.
We have to get elected as delegates to the convention. Electoral college delegates have to be constitutionalists because they elect the president by casting their vote.
Those who support Ron Paul must begin the process now of getting elected as a delegate to the convention or it's all over and the GOP faithful will get the shadow government's choice shoved down their throats - again. The power players behind the scenes will orchestrate the show and the people will be the losers - again. The same applies with getting nominated as an electoral college delegate because America got a good lesson in civics during the 2000 pretend election regarding the popular vote vs the electoral college system.
A word to the wise: if you present yourself as a supporter of Ron Paul, you will never get elected as a delegate. Wave the flag, shout power to the GOP, rah, rah, rah, get elected and then begin your campaign to get Ron Paul nominated. Now, some might say this type of stealth isn't right. Here's what's not right: back room deals and big money giving the American people no choice in these elections and anyone who thinks this isn't how the process has been working for the past century is in a state of denial.
Get together with your friends or people you know and plan your strategy now and work to get elected as a delegate. Time is quickly slipping by, every minute counts."
SOURCE: Devvy Kidd, NewsWithViews.com
"You don't gain much by being angry. I see this more as an intellectual, philosophical fight than a political, personality fight." - Ron Paul
"You don't gain much by being angry. I see this more as an intellectual, philosophical fight than a political, personality fight." - Ron Paul
Because each state gets so
Because each state gets so many delegates to decide who gets the republican nomination, at the republican convention. Those states are being punished for holding primaries earlier than the republican party allows, so they will be punished by not having as much voting power. Now the party says they only get to send half their delegates to the convention.
The republican delegates work much the same as the electoral college, they are the ones who really decide who gets the nomination.
Thats why the woman from the campaign just stood up on stage at the philli rally and said, if we cant get people elected as delegates, then we have no hope of making ron president, no matter how well he does in the primaries.
Its very important people from each state understand how to get chosen to become a delegates, and work to get chosen.
"You don't gain much by being angry. I see this more as an intellectual, philosophical fight than a political, personality fight." - Ron Paul
"You don't gain much by being angry. I see this more as an intellectual, philosophical fight than a political, personality fight." - Ron Paul
However...
Aren't some (or most?) of the delegates of many states essentially REQUIRED to vote as their primary/caucus went, again, just like the electoral college? If not, if the delegates are the ones who decide who gets the nomination, whats the point of the primary or caucus? Are they all just non-binding preference polls?
I dont know about that. I
I dont know about that. I always thought the electoral college can vote however they see fit. It may vary state to state as well.
Honestly, i dont see why the campaign would state the importance of it if that was true. I am pretty sure they dont have to vote along with the results of the primary. I will look this up.
"You don't gain much by being angry. I see this more as an intellectual, philosophical fight than a political, personality fight." - Ron Paul
"You don't gain much by being angry. I see this more as an intellectual, philosophical fight than a political, personality fight." - Ron Paul
yep, I don't know either...
It just seems hard for me to believe that the primaries and caucuses serve no purpose other than a trivial thing to determine the preference of the state's voters, which would seem to be the case if the delegates can vote for whoever they want. On the other hand, I have heard the same thing as you about how important it is to become a delegate.
In florida ,If im not
In florida ,If im not mistaken .It is only hurting the Dems,LOL
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