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ZEITGEIST WAS RIGHT !Check this out! Earthaven Ecovillage, Zeitgeist was right, HOPE

This is a great place, full of great people. They have a wonderful community. A great cafe and great homemade beer!! There is hope.


*please note, a small group of members are angry Mike (creator of this website) and I found Zeitgeist "interesting". They are now attacking the concept of an ecovillage. Real freedom loving Patriots.

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Sorry but what Zeitgeist 2

Sorry but what Zeitgeist 2 was proposing in the end was freedom from thinking, working, loss and reward.

Have you ever seen the movie "Wall-E?" Same Utopian concept as you're discussing and look how the writers thought about what it would do to the human race....

Wall-E was nothing like Z2

The human race was dead in WallE (I didn't see it cause it is nonsense, but I did hear a synopsis).

In the Z2 model people use machines to free them from work. If you want to not work or think then that's up to you. I would personally like to be free of the mind numbing repetition that I'm paying for.
Here are some of my examples-Energy (why do I pay for this when I can get it from the earth's natural systems-sun, wind, wave, geothermal?)
Food-Why do I have a green lawn-shouldn't we all have gardens to grow?

what people would do with all their time is up to them. If you want to be a slob that does no critical thinking than that's your perogative. If you want to explore the universe free from unnecessary constraints then eventually you've got to drop money.

Typical... you comment on

Typical... you comment on something you didn't even see... what an idiot!

The human race was not dead in Wall E... they were fat, stupid, and hopelessly connected to their technology.

So in your Utopia, who will govern? A small few at the top? Maybe something like a pyramid model? No thanks....

Nobody governs and that's the whole point

The only "slothful" people in a society where there is no money are the people without any spirit. Basically anyone who wants to loaf around all day and do nothing. This NWO controlled society creates people like that in abundance-they give up hope because everything is based on cheating another group from what you have. When you have no adversity to survival you're able to do whatever you want-and anyone who isn't sociopathic will do good things.

How many would break the law if they didn't have any money to steal? What type of government would we need?

It appears to me there would be little or no government-just like the Ron Paul revolution has always stated. I won't bow to your level and call you names. Good luck in the playground, us adults are trying to have a conversation without name calling.

check out the earthship

very cool design. Made from old tires

yeah check this out too

www.earthships.com - you can reshape your own community one house at a time.

We might not all agree on Zeitgeist's Endgame-but it doesn't really matter. What does matter is the transitional period away from fiat currency. This is the first shock that needs to be administered to the system. After we get that done we can all talk about moving away from a profit structure to a sustainable structure.

we posted earthship at the same time!!

how cool

here's the main site


I know why people are attacking zeitgeist-they can't see the BIG picture. Alot of people on this site and other patriots have always wanted to homestead and not worry about paying taxes, or having to make the monthly mortgage. Homesteading, or providing for yourself on your own property, is the transitional period until the world can come to realize a totally transparent way of resource management.

Here's how it would work, for anyone that's ever had solar cells you know you can check how much energy is stored daily, and refill the water in the batteries-but it would be global. Instead of the daily market reports there would be daily resource reports and all the information about our resource potential would be there for all to see. It would also be intrinsically tied to your community because as people we can better mete out resources locally. It's the end of a government bureacracy gone wild and the beginning of a sovereignty of the individual with the mastery of the world for each of us. I can see it, the people who make earthships and communities like earthhaven can see it, I hope in my lifetime the world can too.

Check out the class

list. Very cool.


To learn about Fedor, just visit this topic: http://www.dailypaul.com/node/68154

-- Chuck Baldwin is closest to RP's message. --

Aww... come on looks like they're having a kegger!

And the CFR pays for everything!

How kewl is that! It's almost like the Bohemian Grove.

But minus the "Owl" and the KKK-style robe thingees.

Besides he'll just keep bumping his own post.... over and over again.

looks like they will do fine in a depression

lots of food and water, community.

When we get into a depression

I assure you all there food and water will be someone elses. unless your going to have some terminator robots. Well I guess you can throw your resources at them that should keep all the cowboys and indians away.

I'm just answering your questions

what's wrong with that?

Any robots?

Or do people still have to do that nasty "work" stuff.

no robots yet, haha

Still have to garden and make the beer. Pretty fun.