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does ron paul have an immediate solution for this mess?

all my coworkers are putting down ron paul, they say he is just saying i told you so. he has no real solutions. i figuered you guys will show them the light. thanks



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what's the "solution"...

...to when you've driven off a cliff and are plummeting toward the bottom? Ron Paul was the guy who said "we shouldn't drive off that cliff".

...to when you've just shot yourself in the head and are now losing consciousness? Ron Paul was the guy who said "we shouldn't point that gun at our head".

...to when you've just drunkenly plowed your car through a crowd of schoolkids and crashed through the wall of the local police station? Ron Paul was the guy who said "we shouldn't drive while intoxicated".

Your friends haven't woken up yet, except just enough to start screaming as the car plummets on down. After it impacts, and the pain and bleeding subside, we'll get to a point where folks will start thinking about what to do next. If we're smart, we'll at least learn the lesson of the crash and listen to the people who warned us about it, rather than stewpidly blaming *them* for not having an instant solution to the very problem they tried to keep us out of in the first place.

This is exactly the same thing as Iraq.

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You might try some "tough love" on your fellow coworkers...

and say, "Ron Paul was the ONLY politician who WARNED you this was coming. Now, do you want to continue witnessing your 401Ks and you future go down the tube, or are you finally prepared to SHUT UP and listen?"
THEN you can hit them with Ron Paul's plan.

Ding ding ding

we have a winner.

Point being you have to know a great deal about sound economic principles in order to be able to predict the mess that we are in. No small task. Ron Paul of ANYONE deserves the right to say 'I told you so.' yet he is gracious enough to refrain from doing so, and in EVERY case where I have heard him speak he has volunteered a proper course of action going forward.

The brainiacs you work with are simply ignorant of such principles - It's not that they don't listen, they are unable to recognize them when they hear them being spoken; their minds have been clouded; they hear, but they are unable to comprehend. Most Americans are in a similar boat - they are actually worse than simply ignorant because of the socio-economic-political babble that is being pumped into their brains by the likes of McCain, Obama, Paulson, Barney Frank, GW Bush, Bernanke, Nancy Pelosi.

yes The Prescription for Prosperity released in January

http://www.ronpaulwarroom.com/?p=2882

Get this to all your local media, MSM, and friends and pass out to coworkers

Dr. Paul’s Prescription for Economic Prosperity

By Swampfox | January 24, 2008

Introduction

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/Prosperity

America became the greatest, most prosperous nation in human history through low taxes, limited government, personal freedom and a belief in sound money. We need to return to these principles so our economy can thrive again. When enacted, my plan will provide both short-term stimulus and lay the groundwork for long-term prosperity.

Other candidates talk a lot about stimulus packages, but my record stands alone. I have fought for these measures for years as a member of Congress and will make them a top priority as president.

Ron Paul, a 10-term Republican congressman from Texas’s 14th District, is currently the ranking member of the House Financial Services Committee’s Subcommittee on Domestic and International Monetary Policy, Trade, and Technology. He has been named “Taxpayers’ Best Friend” for 10 consecutive years by the National Taxpayers’ Union. Ron Paul is also the author of several books on monetary policy and economics.

The Four-Point Plan

1. Tax Reform: Reduce the tax burden and eliminate taxes that punish investment and savings, including job-killing corporate taxes.
2. Spending Reform: Eliminate wasteful spending. Reduce overseas commitments. Freeze all non-defense, non-entitlement spending at current levels.
3. Monetary Policy Reform: Expand openness with the Federal Reserve and require the Fed to televise its meetings. Return value to our money.
4. Regulatory Reform: Repeal Sarbanes/Oxley regulations that push companies to seek capital outside of US markets. Stop restricting community banks from fostering local economic growth.

1. Tax Reform

* Eliminate Taxes on Dividends and Savings. The basis of capitalism is savings, and Americans who do so should be rewarded.
o Pass HJ Res. 23 to encourage savings over consumption.
* Repeal the Death Tax. Attacking small businesses and breaking up family farms smothers growth and kills jobs.
o Pass H.R. 2734 to make the Bush tax cuts permanent.
* Cut Taxes for Working Seniors. Grandmothers and grandfathers working to make ends meet should keep all the fruits of their labor.
o Pass H.R. 191 to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to repeal the inclusion in gross income of Social Security benefits.
* Eliminate Taxes on Social Security Benefits. That money belongs to seniors, not the government. They paid into the system for a lifetime, and they should be free to spend every penny as they see fit.
o Pass H.R. 192 to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to repeal the 1993 increase in taxes on Social Security benefits.
* Accelerate Depreciation on Investment. We need to help companies grow and create jobs.
o Pass H.R. 4995 and amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to reduce corporate marginal income tax rates.
* Eliminate Taxes on Capital Gains. Investment should be embraced and rewarded.
o Pass H.J. Res 23 (The “Liberty Amendment”), proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States relative to abolishing personal income, estate, and gift taxes and prohibiting the United States Government from engaging in business in competition with its citizens.
* Eliminate Taxes on Tips.The single parents and working students who earn their income chiefly through tips deserve to keep all of their money. This tax on “estimated income” is unfair and should be ended.
o Pass H.R. 3664 to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide that tips shall not be subject to income or employment taxes.
* Support Mortgage Cancelation Relief Act. Working families who lost their homes should not be punished a second time with a big IRS bill.
o Pass H.R. 1876 to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to exclude from gross income of individual taxpayers discharges of indebtedness attributable to certain forgiven residential mortgage obligations.

2. Spending Reform

* Reduce Overseas Military Commitments. Our bases and troops should be on our soil.
o It’s time to stop subsidizing our trading partners in Europe, Japan and South Korea.
* Freeze Non-Defense, Non-Entitlement Spending at Current Levels
o I vote against all bloated, pork laden spending bills and will veto them as president.

3. Monetary Policy Reform

* Televise Federal Open Market Committee Meetings. An institution as powerful as the Federal Reserve deserves full public scrutiny.
* Expand Transparency and Accountability at the Federal Reserve
o Pass H.R. 2754 to require the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System to continue to make available to the public on a weekly basis information on the measure of the M3 monetary aggregate and its components.

* Return Value to Our Money. Legalize gold and silver as a competing currency.
o Level the long-term boom and bust business cycle by passing H.R. 4683, which would repeal provisions of the federal criminal code relating to issuance coins of gold, silver, or other metal for use as current money and making or possessing likenesses of such coins.

4. Regulatory Reform

* Repeal Sarbanes/Oxley. It has seriously wounded our capital markets and helped make the UK the financial center at our expense.
o Ending these misguided regulations would bring jobs flooding back to the United States
o Pass H.R. 1049 to reform Sarbanes-Oxley and reduce the burden it places on small businesses.

* Repeal or Remove Costly and Unnecessary Federal Regulations. Neighbors know best how to help their neighbors.
o We need to make it easier for community banks, credit unions, and other financial institutions to better serve their communities and to help people in these communities get access to credit and capital.
o Pass H.R. 1869 to enhance the ability of community banks to foster economic growth and serve their communities, boost small businesses, increase individual savings, and for other purposes.

They want Quick-Fix... Pills to pop, SIlver Bullets to fire...

And there ain't no such thing.

We have a mess on our hands -- and the people wanting the "quick-fix" are going to end up "popping pills" that make our country and economy even sicker... they are going try firing "Silver Bullets" that are just going to kill the prospects we have of getting back on the right track.

Sometimes when a hurricane hits (even a man-made one) you just have to suffer through it and then pick up the pieces afterwards.

Trying to "hold off" the hurricane is a fool's concept as it just makes it "hover" over your city even longer and do even more damage!

in a nutshell

and paraphrasing the good doctor.

- having little authority over the economy directly, he would enact non-intervention and bring a helluva lot of troops home. this would immediately drop oil prices.

- cut a few departments.

- let us have a recession

- push to phase out the fed.

- he will leave ss alone for now, but has a phased out approach.

he gave an example recently: say we need 50 billion for something....infrastructure....we cut $70 billion, pay 20 towards the deficit and get some jobs going off of the less than desirable deficit spending.....but, those jobs create new ones, etc...etc..

thanks people

ii couldnt of said it any better myself

Return to "sound" money.

Money should be backed by something of value, as defined in the Constitution. Fiat currency always fails.

"The Constitution was written not to regulate you in any way, the purpose of the Constitution is to restrain the government." Ron Paul.

http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=DVUR3-3-IQM&fmt=18

Here it is

America became the greatest, most prosperous nation in human history through low taxes, limited government, personal freedom and a belief in sound money. We need to return to these principles so our economy can thrive again. When enacted, my plan will provide both short-term stimulus and lay the groundwork for long-term prosperity.

Other candidates talk a lot about stimulus packages, but my record stands alone. I have fought for these measures for years as a member of Congress and will make them a top priority as president.

Ron Paul, a 10-term Republican congressman from Texas’s 14th District, is currently the ranking member of the House Financial Services Committee’s Subcommittee on Domestic and International Monetary Policy, Trade, and Technology. He has been named “Taxpayers’ Best Friend” for 10 consecutive years by the National Taxpayers’ Union. Ron Paul is also the author of several books on monetary policy and economics.

The Four-Point Plan

1. Tax Reform: Reduce the tax burden and eliminate taxes that punish investment and savings, including job-killing corporate taxes.
2. Spending Reform: Eliminate wasteful spending. Reduce overseas commitments. Freeze all non-defense, non-entitlement spending at current levels.
3. Monetary Policy Reform: Expand openness with the Federal Reserve and require the Fed to televise its meetings. Return value to our money.
4. Regulatory Reform: Repeal Sarbanes/Oxley regulations that push companies to seek capital outside of US markets. Stop restricting community banks from fostering local economic growth.

1. Tax Reform

* Eliminate Taxes on Dividends and Savings. The basis of capitalism is savings, and Americans who do so should be rewarded.
o Pass HJ Res. 23 to encourage savings over consumption.
* Repeal the Death Tax. Attacking small businesses and breaking up family farms smothers growth and kills jobs.
o Pass H.R. 2734 to make the Bush tax cuts permanent.
* Cut Taxes for Working Seniors. Grandmothers and grandfathers working to make ends meet should keep all the fruits of their labor.
o Pass H.R. 191 to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to repeal the inclusion in gross income of Social Security benefits.
* Eliminate Taxes on Social Security Benefits. That money belongs to seniors, not the government. They paid into the system for a lifetime, and they should be free to spend every penny as they see fit.
o Pass H.R. 192 to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to repeal the 1993 increase in taxes on Social Security benefits.
* Accelerate Depreciation on Investment. We need to help companies grow and create jobs.
o Pass H.R. 4995 and amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to reduce corporate marginal income tax rates.
* Eliminate Taxes on Capital Gains. Investment should be embraced and rewarded.
o Pass H.J. Res 23 (The “Liberty Amendment”), proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States relative to abolishing personal income, estate, and gift taxes and prohibiting the United States Government from engaging in business in competition with its citizens.
* Eliminate Taxes on Tips.The single parents and working students who earn their income chiefly through tips deserve to keep all of their money. This tax on “estimated income” is unfair and should be ended.
o Pass H.R. 3664 to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide that tips shall not be subject to income or employment taxes.
* Support Mortgage Cancelation Relief Act. Working families who lost their homes should not be punished a second time with a big IRS bill.
o Pass H.R. 1876 to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to exclude from gross income of individual taxpayers discharges of indebtedness attributable to certain forgiven residential mortgage obligations.

2. Spending Reform

* Reduce Overseas Military Commitments. Our bases and troops should be on our soil.
o It’s time to stop subsidizing our trading partners in Europe, Japan and South Korea.
* Freeze Non-Defense, Non-Entitlement Spending at Current Levels
o I vote against all bloated, pork laden spending bills and will veto them as president.

3. Monetary Policy Reform

* Televise Federal Open Market Committee Meetings. An institution as powerful as the Federal Reserve deserves full public scrutiny.
* Expand Transparency and Accountability at the Federal Reserve
o Pass H.R. 2754 to require the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System to continue to make available to the public on a weekly basis information on the measure of the M3 monetary aggregate and its components.

* Return Value to Our Money. Legalize gold and silver as a competing currency.
o Level the long-term boom and bust business cycle by passing H.R. 4683, which would repeal provisions of the federal criminal code relating to issuance coins of gold, silver, or other metal for use as current money and making or possessing likenesses of such coins.

4. Regulatory Reform

* Repeal Sarbanes/Oxley. It has seriously wounded our capital markets and helped make the UK the financial center at our expense.
o Ending these misguided regulations would bring jobs flooding back to the United States
o Pass H.R. 1049 to reform Sarbanes-Oxley and reduce the burden it places on small businesses.

* Repeal or Remove Costly and Unnecessary Federal Regulations. Neighbors know best how to help their neighbors.
o We need to make it easier for community banks, credit unions, and other financial institutions to better serve their communities and to help people in these communities get access to credit and capital.
o Pass H.R. 1869 to enhance the ability of community banks to foster economic growth and serve their communities, boost small businesses, increase individual savings, and for other purposes.

This was his plan he released in January

He should re-release it

www.ronpaul2008.com redirects you to CFL but here I found it posted still on Ron Paul Warroom

http://www.ronpaulwarroom.com/?p=2882

The solution remains the

same:

trim federal budget by major changes in foreign policy
less government control of markets
reform the fed reserve and monetary policy

h-daddy

blame

man, people are really hard up to blame everyone but themselves for voting the jokers in that did this to us and won't learn any lessons, singing praises to McBama
Edit: *I'd Say* "sorry you guys were wrong, people probably hated Noah too when the thunder rolled."

Yes he does..

He is the only one in Congress who really wants to change the way this country handles its monetary policy!
He wants to end the Fed!
The Federal Reserve is a key player in the way the markets are going down!
Tell them whats there point when they say, "He's just saying I told you so but has no solution."
Obama and McCain don't have plan. They just want to expand government intervention.
The government is the problem as well.
Ron Paul walks the walk and talks the talk, it is the rest of Congress who doesn't listen. Watch his youtube videos!
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Solution?

Why of course!

Allow the market to work itself out.

Then, allow competing currencies as legal tender.

We didn't get into the mess we are in overnight, and we won't get out overnight.

Change takes TIME.

Sounds like your coworkers are a bunch of dumbasses, though, sorry. Ron Paul warned us. He did tell us so. But, people hate to admit that they were ever wrong. So, there reaction is pretty typical.
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LOL!

Nicely put about his co-workers!
Right on target.
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"The real terrorist's are in this country and they are not planning to blow us up, but rather, take our money, our freedom, and our country."

__________________________________________________________
"The real terrorist's are in this country. They are not planning to blow us up,......... but rather, take our money, our freedom, and our country."

Do not forget his

Prescription for Prosperity Plan

Repeal Sarbanes Oxley
Lower taxes
Cut spending
Balance the budget

Cannot remember it all

But I am sure you can google it

exactly

there is no immediate solution

Bump

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