Please watch: the flu vaccine

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The other day, someone asked to give compelling reasons to not have the flu vaccine.

I can't seem to find the thread. Therefore, I will post this video clip here: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=zcniJxck0gI&eurl=http://earthb...

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Hannah2.....

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....what do you think of the conflicts-of-interest that's documented in the news story I posted just above?

How can the American people be so trusting of these snakes?

Is God making this nation blind on purpose because He is judging us all?

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Patrick
Polk County, Florida

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CONFLICTS OF INTEREST and MORE GET SICK FROM VACCINE

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This from USA Today:

Most health workers skip flu shot

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By Melanie Welte, Associated Press
DES MOINES —

Operating room nurse Pauline Taylor knows her refusal to get a flu shot is based on faulty logic.

But ever since she got sick after getting a shot a few years ago, she's sworn off the vaccine.

Such stories frustrate Dr. William Schaffner.

As chairman of the Department of Preventive Medicine at Vanderbilt University, he hears that kind of talk frequently and knows it's in part to blame for a surprising statistic — nearly 60% of health care workers fail to get a flu shot.

Schaffner argues that getting vaccinated for the flu should be standard for doctors and nurses, just like washing their hands. That's because the flu virus can be spread so easily.

"Being in close proximity to patients, having conversations with them, bending over their bed, seeing them in the clinic while you're doing procedures, you would be breathing out viruses and spreading influenza into your patients," said Schaffner, who is also president-elect of the National Foundation for Infectious Diseases.

The nonprofit group educates the public and health care industry about the causes, treatment and prevention of infectious diseases. It gets about 75% of its budget from major vaccine makers, but executive director Len Novick said the money comes with no strings attached.

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*****LAUGHING MY REAR OFF ***************

Come on, people !!!

SNL or Jon Stewart couldn't write better stuff than this.

When I saw that last sentence, my mouth dropped open to the floor in amazement that the article actually admitted that 75% of the funding to that organization who wants ALL health care workers vaccinated IS FROM THE VACCINE MAKERS !!!

Are we still living in 1955 and Rod Serling is standing next to me with a cigarette?

COME ON !!!

THIS ALONE SHOULD WAKE ALL OF YOU OUT OF YOUR SLUMBER !!

QUIT BELIEVING THESE CROOKS !!!

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Patrick
Polk County, Florida

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I don't take them and

I don't take them and hopefully my blind old lady will not force my child to take them. Me personally I do not believe everything the doctor tells me. As a matter of fact I'm starting to think of them as drug pushers. Look around you there is a damn pill for everything which is more than likely caused by bad food or bad water. The medical community is only around to make money and its not there to cure people. You might say I am full of crap but look at it this way they had a cure for ED since WW2 but its illegal. You ever do steroids? You take one shot every 2 weeks and You are walking around with a raging hard on like You were 14. The problem is the water has estrogen in it and the males naturally produce less when they get older. The medical community would rather charge You 10 dollars a pill for 15 minutes of fun then give you a shot that lasts 2 weeks and probably cost 10 dollars. So I do not have any respect for the medical community or the government for that matter. So stay away from vaccines because it might be the vehicle that spreads bird flu.

Comparison of vaccine schedules - 1983 vs 2008

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Comparison of CDC Mandatory Vaccine Schedule
Children birth to six years (recommended month)

USA 1983

DTP (2)
OPV (2)
DTP (4)
OPV (4)
DTP (6)
MMR (15)
DTP (18)
OPV (18)
DTP (48)
OPV (48)

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USA 2008

Influenza
(prenatal)
Hep B (birth)
Hep B (1)
DTaP (2)
Hib (2)
IPV (2)
PCV (2)
Rotavrus (2)
Hep B (4)
DTaP (4)
Hib (4)
IPV (4)
PCV (4)
Rotavirus (4)
Hep B (6)
DTaP (6)
Hib (6)
IPV (6)
PCV (6)
Influenza (6)
Rotavirus (6)
Hib (12)
MMR (12)
Varicella (12)
PCV (12)
Hep A (12)
DTaP (15)
Hep A (18)
Influenza (18)
Influenza (30)
Influenza (42)
MMR (48)
DTaP (48)
IPV (48)
Influenza (54)
Influenza (66)

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Is it any wonder that childhood diseases, including allergies, diabetes, cancer, autism, asthma, etc, have skyrocketed in the past 20 years?

They keep fear-mongering us that polio, measles, smallpox, etc, will all make comebacks if we quit vaccinating, but vaccination never stopped any of those diseases anyhow. They were all in 80%-90% decline before the vaccines were ver introduced, due to sanitation, hygiene and availability of food.

What do they have to say about all the other epidemics that vaccines are causing?

They say NOTHING.......only deny, deny, deny, deny any linkage.
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Patrick
Polk County, Florida

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www.vaclib.org

All vaccinations do is undermine your immune system

then throw ontop of that they are purposefully putting live virus and all kinds of crap in them...it makes my skin crawl just thinking of injecting something right into my bloodstream.

VOTE CHUCK BALDWIN

A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.

Let's talk more about vaccines today !!!!!

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Don't you all love discussing this other tentacle of the New World Order eugenics movement?

I'm still in shock that there are STILL Ron Paul supporters who believe in vaccination.

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Patrick
Polk County, Florida

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www.vaclib.org

Yet another reason to avoid vaccines

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Spoiled Vaccines Mean 2nd Shots for Children

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By CDC estimates, hundreds of thousands of doses of vaccines against such diseases as flu, diphtheria, tetanus, whooping cough, polio, mumps, measles, chicken pox and the cervical cancer virus are thrown out each year because of poor refrigeration at clinics, hospitals and doctors' offices.

lost potency

In one recent case in Sioux City, Iowa, more than 1,000 families were notified by letter and telephone that they needed to get their children revaccinated. State officials found that the refrigerator at the clinic that administered the shots repeatedly dropped below freezing over a 17-month period in 2005 and 2006, potentially ruining the vaccines stored there.

"We just didn't notice it," said Dr. Ray Sturdevant, president of the Prairie Pediatrics and Adolescent Clinic.

Poor refrigeration has been blamed for similar problems elsewhere around the country over the past 2 1/2 years:

In St. Cloud, Minn., a clinic had to revaccinate 8,600 patients, most of them children.

In Lane County, Ore., 500 children and adults had to get another shot.

In western Florida, it happened to about 250 children.

Yet ANOTHER reason to avoid vaccinations.

How do you know your clinic is storing them properly?

And just think - if they DON'T store them properly, your kids get to go back for yet ANOTHER round - with NO waiting period - of more dangerous concoctions made up by the pharm companies.

These people need to be imprisoned for this horrible experiment they are conducting on mankind.

Josef Mengele would be proud of how the world has taken his brutal experiments and continued them.

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Patrick
Polk County, Florida

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www.vaclib.org

Rally in NJ,Trenton, October 16. 4 vaccines mandate proposal

including an annual flu shot for children 5 yrs and under!

One Thousand People Expected To Rally For Vaccination Choice
at the State House in Trenton, NJ on Thursday, October 16, 2008 at
12:00 p.m.

NJ Assemblywoman Charlotte Vandervalk, Board-certified Pediatrician
Dr. Lawrence Palevsky and National Vaccine Information Center
co-founder Barbara Loe Fisher, will join NJ parents and professionals
at a rally in Trenton for vaccination choice. Nearly one thousand
people are expected, requiring Trenton to close the streets to
accommodate the crowds.

The speakers represent a cross-section of society including medical
doctors, nurses, chiropractors, scientists, clergy, educators,
soldiers, politicians, journalists, autism activists, homeschoolers
and many parents. The NJ Coalition for Vaccination Choice (NJCVC)
invites you to rally with them by the steps of the State House,
outside Gov. Corzine's office.

The group opposes the four new vaccine mandates including an annual
flu shot for children ages 5 and under, required for daycare and
pre-school. NJCVC supports the passage of bill A260/S1071, a
conscientious exemption to mandatory immunization which will permit
parents to select all, some or no vaccinations for their children. A
form of this parental right already exists in 19 other US states. All
legislators will be in Trenton for a Special Session. Fox News plans
to cover the event. Fox aired a live segment on vaccination choice in
NJ on October 9 (see http://tinyurl.com/3nmgqb and
http://tinyurl.com/45ca5y).

Press urged to cover this high visual impact event: signs, banners,
balloons, photos, children, music, personal stories, legislator
appreciation ceremony. Rally Information: Rain or Shine, Thursday,
October 16, 2008, Noon- 2 pm, 125 West State Street, Trenton, NJ,
www.njvaccinationchoice.org for more rally details.

Contact Louise Habakus vaxRSVP@verizon.net 917-553-4634.

Max will be speaking at the rally, view his story below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YswnGsfZsQI

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Tell your State Representatives that you want strong exemptions from
mandatory vaccination (Action Item works for any State):
http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/568/t/1128/campaign.jsp?
campaign_KEY=21833

Thanks for those links

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An everyone, please watch the Fox And Friends interview that Hannah2 provided of two of the parents who are outraged by this mandate:

Outrage over New Jersey Making Flu Shots Mandatory for Kids (Fox And Friends)

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Patrick
Polk County, Florida

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www.vaclib.org

I refused to get a flu shot earlier today at my hospital...

where I work per diem, during one of four annual skills re-orientation days held this week. My refusal was mainly due to the helpful info I get from you guys here...and most recently, my coworker who got sick the night after getting a flu shot earlier last Friday, after finishing our annual workplace physical where I regularly work...but somehow I was not offered the flu vaccine (fortunately) by the same MD who did my/our physical days before.

Now, get this...my girlfriend who also went with me earlier today at said skills day (and works with me at both hospitals/same schedule) just went home feeling nauseated/weak and seems febrile...right after taking the flu vaccine!! (I warned her though)...

Go figure...

Libertad said:

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Libertad said:

****My refusal was mainly due to the helpful info I get from you guys here......and most recently, my coworker who got sick the night after getting a flu shot earlier last Friday, after finishing our annual workplace physical where I regularly work..****

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THANKS FOR THOSE REPORTS !!!

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Folks,

It's reports like this - that someone is being informed by other individuals and citizens giving first-hand reports about failed/harmful vaccines - that the powers-that-be want the internet either shut-down or heavily monitored.

Think I'm just making this stuff up?

Take a look:

Big Pharma Ties Want to Shut Down Vaccine 'Conspiracy Theories'

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Group With Big Pharma Ties Wants to Shut Down Vaccine “Conspiracy Theories”

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Kingpins of Military-Industrial complex say they will “brand” websites they consider “trustworthy and reliable sources of information”

A foundation populated by the giants of business, banking, government and military wants to “vet” websites and limit the spread of information that it says creates “conspiracy theories”.

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), fronted by Internet creator Sir Tim Berners-Lee, says it is worried about the way the web has been “used to spread disinformation”.

Speaking to the BBC, Berners-Lee said that there needed to be a new system that would give websites a “label for trustworthiness” once they had been proved reliable sources. Only then would the rise of “cult thinking” be avoided according to Berners-Lee.

“On the web the thinking of cults can spread very rapidly and suddenly a cult which was 12 people who had some deep personal issues suddenly find a formula which is very believable,” Berners-Lee said. “A sort of conspiracy theory of sorts and which you can imagine spreading to thousands of people and being deeply damaging.”

Deeply damaging to who? one might ask. The answer is revealed in the list of The World Wide Web Consortium’s 400 plus members, the cream of the corporate world in conjunction with government agencies such as National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) and military entities like the Defense Information Systems Agency (DISA).

Berners-Lee cites two examples of such “disinformation” or “conspiracy theories” in his interview with the BBC, both of which speak volumes about the aims and goals of this elite consortium:

Sir Tim talked to the BBC in the week in which Cern, where he did his pioneering work on the web, turned on the Large Hadron Collider for the first time.

The use of the web to spread fears that flicking the switch on the LHC could create a Black Hole that could swallow up the Earth particularly concerned him, he said. In a similar vein was the spread of rumours that the MMR vaccine given to children in Britain was harmful.

World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) Members

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Patrick
Polk County, Florida

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www.vaclib.org

What about mandatory cancer shots in schools?

This is old, but it still floors me.

Texas Is First to Require Cancer Shots for Schoolgirls

By RALPH BLUMENTHAL
Published: February 3, 2007
Correction Appended

HOUSTON, Feb. 2 — Texas on Friday became the first state to require all 11- and 12-year-old girls entering the sixth grade to be vaccinated against a sexually transmitted virus that causes cervical cancer.

rest here: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/03/us/03texas.html

Thank God that neo-con tyrant was overruled....

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...along with his pharm-buddies at Merck.

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Patrick
Polk County, Florida

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www.vaclib.org

Bird Flu Pandemic Most-Likely Will Spread Through Vaccine

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There are many who have reason to believe that the bird flu pandemic will be released/spread THROUGH the bird flu vaccine.

The following interview of Dr. True Ott by Dr. Carley is a must-hear interview:

Bird Flu Vaccine and Population Reduction
SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 27, 2008

Hour 1: http://216.240.133.177/archives32/Phelan/2008/09/Phelan_1_09...

Hour 2: http://216.240.133.177/archives32/Phelan/2008/09/Phelan_2_09...

(remember - you can move the slider past the commercials)

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Patrick
Polk County, Florida

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www.vaclib.org

medical science is only useful for stitches and internal

or psychological should be left to nature. Learn about B17 and learn about devils root for depression , forget anything that you are told and realize that we are not in need of drugs but we are mearly insufficent in the things we would normally have.
~Mikael / Peace, love, Light and unity ~

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Stop the NWO....It's just illumi..Naughty !

ANYTHING pushed

in the old media should be questioned and researched.

Some drugs, which have been proven to cause death, are still advertised on TV. I've read about their hazards but still see them. Thus, people think they are safe. Vioxx was killing people, and drug rep turned whistle blower. I still see adds!!!

IF they are advertised on TV - listen to the side effects.

I quit taking my satins after many years, after reading (and feeling) the harm the were doing to my body. Against my doctor's recommendations, I might add. When he increased my dose, again, I stopped and did iin-depth research, change many habits, eating healthier, taking omega 3 suplements, eating more foods raw, including eating apples and their seeds.

Quit drinking diet pop, and all pop. Quit using diet and light products as they contain things, including corn syrup and glucose, that cause weight gain and cravings.

Quit using artifall sweeteners as are poison. Quit all products with aspertane, as it is poison. (the down side of eliminating aspertane, is that it is hidden in thousands of products - try to find any chewing gum without it).

I switched to natural peanut butter, and no longer crave it. When I was eating the "light", I couldn't get enough celery with peanut butter on it.

I researched cholesterol, and why it's benefis. By cutting it, they are interfering with or immune systems, and causing possible liver damage. I just read cholesterol is still ok if LDL is 300. If over - some caution.

Now they want to test our children and get them started on statins. They continue to lower the standards for cholesterol and blood pressure, so docs will start medications.

Drub reps are trained by the drug companies.
Doctors, who don't have time for research, BELIEVE the reps and are paid to prescribe their drugs. The reps get huge bonuses when docs prescribe their drugs. It's a win-win for them, and a big lose for us.
Drug reps are trained also to meet docs objections or findings so they will continue scripts. It's the old propaganda thing...

I had been taking PremPro for over 13 years - now docs no longer recommend. Why? Proved increase of heart attacks and strokes of 40% with those who took them. Also, increase in breast cancer. I do believe the Lord was looking after me with that drug. THEY KNEW THIS FOR YEARS!!!

I have been researching vaccines

for months now.

I will NEVER GET A FLU SHOT! My grandchildren will NOT be getting those childhood vaccines, including those causing autism (MMR) or the Gardasil (HPV) for young girls (untested - causing sever side effects, including steriliz ation, even death) nor the HepB, causing diabetes (proven in other countries).

The least of their poisons is mercury. At worst, the added Cancer virus and proof the Aids virus made in a lab and deliberately injected in a few select third world countries.

There is so much proof out there - do your homework, PLEASE. A govt. taking control of our lives, in every way. Financial, freedom, and health! They want to steal it all!

Why no cure for Cancer when billions has been collected and utilized? Because it is BIG business, and the big pharma's benefit. They don't want to find a CURE, they want to medicate, over and over.

The vaccines make our children sick, they go to doc, get scripts to get better - for awhile, then repeat over an over!

Do you have any idea what is in these children's vaccines? IF YOU DID, you would NEVER get them vaccinated ever again!

go here and subscribe to email newsletter - research their archives also: www.NaturalNews.com Also, a supporter of Ron Paul.

go here and subscribe to email newsletter - research archives -
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/current.aspx

If you research on the web, AVOID govt. or drug company sponsored websites - full of lies!

Nurse here again,

Flu scare tactics are used to get the populace freaked out.
The real information:
In 2001, 257 people died from the flu, (CDC, Deaths; final data for 2001.) In contrast, 3,454 Americans died from malnutrition that yr. That same yr there were 4,269 deaths attributed to asthma, a condition some studies have linked to vaccines. Why are we not getting excited about these other higher numbers?

"It’s not like I’m just trying to win and get elected. I’m trying to change the course of history." ~Ron Paul

Stop this nonsense.

The government is not trying to kill you with vaccines. If you don't want them, that is your business, but don't start making up BS to get others to follow you.

My friend had all 6 of her kids vaccinated for the flu several weeks ago. My kids spent the night over there. Shouldn't they be sick with the flu now? With all that shedding of the virus and all, shouldn't the entire school be sick by now?

What ever happened to the bird flu that was supposed to come back from the Olympics? Remember that forum topic? Still waiting. lol

Thanks for reminding me to make an appointment for the flu shot.

I bet you like to eat things

that have dropped on the floor. How about things that have fallen in the toilet? Flu vaccinations are just yummy! I bet you don't even know what the ingredients are, do you? No, because you prefer to remain ignorant.

What's sad is all the elderly people that have been duped into getting their "Free" flu shots and then don't realize it's been linked to Alzheimers.

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That is complete BS.

I don't think many of you really understand freedom. What makes you think that your right to not get a vaccination is any more important than my right to do it if I want to? Are you some kind of control freak? I wouldn't tell you what to do. I wouldn't make fun of you for your decision either. I have too much respect for freedom.

I don't believe for one minute that flu shots cause Alzheimer's. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the media is pushing all this disinformation to get rid of a few of you.

Yawn. Go get your shots. We won't stop you.

But, since Alzheimer's is most likely just geriatric ASD, and sicne almost all ASDs are from toxic heavy metal poisioning, the shots, with their toxic heavy meals, will not help the situation.

Information

Here is some information in regards to the flu shot and Alzheimer's:

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2007/08/bill_maher_antivac...

Brain dead???

There is a few brain dead people on here!

Are you saying . . .

the government is trying to kill U.S. citizens with vaccines?

Although I know a bit more about vaccines than you apparently do

When I hear some doctors and nurses talk about the flu vaccine as the depopulation jab... ummm...
Apart from that, I deal with too many, even one is too many, but dealing with those who became sick after their flu shot.. perhaps it is time you paid a little more attention to those who did get their flu shot.
That you didn't have any side effects (yet) is not a guide to go by.

Advocate them for yourself but be kind enough to tell others to look into it first if and when they mention that they will go for the jab.

You might want to do some independent research and find out

the truth about vaccines. You might not get ill immediately from any one vaccine because you've been lucky, but everytime you get another vaccine you are putting yourself at risk and damaging your immune system and possibly much more. If you choose to believe what the government, media and big pharma told you fine, but don't put down others for trying to warn their fellow Paulites about a serious danger.

First-hand experience

We vaccinated our dogs a few years ago. They received the rabies vaccine and a couple other vaccines and got very sick. One just screamed in pain for a few days if we touched her anywhere than the top of her head. One had several seizures (and still has seizures if she works sheep). The other also had weird neurological symptoms - crashing into walls, couldn't catch a ball, etc.

It turned out that they had swollen brain stems. Another vaccine is very likely to kill them (though the "screaming one" died last year of bladder cancer at age 4! Hmmm...). Those dogs will NEVER get another vaccine. Two working border collies were ruined, neither herd sheep now. The one that had seizures can NOT learn anything since the reaction (she remembers things learned before).

My sister's 2 yr old border collie has only received a rabies vaccine - she waited until he was older than the recommended age and only did the one vaccine. Legally, to trial him in agility and herding, he has to have the rabies vaccine. She will probably titer him when he comes due (the vaccine lasts at least 7 years, but they do it every 1-3 years depending on the state, so that the owners won't forget.)

Yes, that is what the vet said!