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Why pay taxes to a government that can print unlimited cash??
Submitted by Fedor on Mon, 10/13/2008 - 20:51
Why? Now we know there is no shortage. They can simply print money out of thin air. Trillions. Why act like money is scarce? It's obviously not. So now we just go on with our lives and act like the government needs our money? » |
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Go to www.losthorizons.com and read.
You will not only see the truth about taxation in Amerika, you will find the solution to this abominable fraud.
Freedom from taxation! ~ Income Tax that is ~ :o)
" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~
" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~
How naive I once was-
I only learned about the 1982-1984 Grace Commission Report just a few months ago. I used to be pissed when paying my taxes, imagining my $20K share going to pay for part of one U.S. bomb. Today, it disgusts me even more, now that I understand the personal income tax is a form of control emanating from the NWO international banking cartel. They don't need the money, they need the control.
Bruce McCarthy had some to say about this....
http://home.earthlink.net/~cadman777/credit_debt_slavery.htm
Several million people in the U.S. are declared (by IRS) to be "tax protesters." - a misnomer, actually, but nevertheless we are aware of MANY, MANY people who, like you, are disenchanted with DEBT MONETIZATION, huge government (unresponsive) and FRAUD. The reader might find it useful to know that IRS does not define the terms "income" or "dollars" in the International Revenue Code. Yet they expect you to declare your "earnings" to be "income " . . . when in fact wages are NOT income, but merely compensation. The term "income" means "gains or profits" for income tax purposes. Not receipts! That subject is beyond the scope of this book, but material is available to substantiate this.
Then too, how can you possibly pay a tax, based on receipt of so many "dollars," when you have never received any "dollars" of anything (since June 24, 1968)?
And if IRS can not define the terms "dollar" or "Income" . . . hence leaving you in the dark, forcing you to GUESS, how can you sign the tax forms UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY that all the information is true and correct? There are long terms in JAIL for GUESSING WRONG.
HOW can YOU sign a tax form WITHOUT waiving your 1st, 4th, 5th, 9th, 13th and 14th amendment RIGHTS of the U.S. Constitution? ASK IRS TO TELL YOU!
But above all, tell your neighbor about this HOAX. He's probably in the dark too. We are indeed our brother's keepers and we must share this responsibility. The alternative is to see all remaining freedom simply legislated away from you, with laws bought with credit created from nothing.
"All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"
- Edmund Burke
"If my people, who are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."
-- 2 Chr. 7:14
SUMMARY:
President James A. Garfield said that whoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all commerce and industry. For the secret owners of the Federal Reserve to control the volume of money and become our absolute masters and we, their absolute slaves, they had to first get our gold away from our intimidated grandparents in 1933, then to take our silver coins under the great smokescreen called "Vietnam" (the timing was perfect), so that we would become dependent on the credit, created from nothing while they regulated the volume with a tax illusion. (Taxes can't be real when money is debt).
When the dollar is a WEIGHT of gold or silver FIXED by congress, and you falsely report to revenue agents that you received dollars, you are disobeying God's Law, "Thou shalt not raise false reports" - Ex. 23:1 and "Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil" - Ex. 23:2. You also waive the rights that millions of brave men bled and died to preserve for you. SHAME!
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS TOTALLY INDEPENDENT OF TAXATION!
Working ?
www.losthorizons.com The Founding Fathers never intended a tax on work for pay. (but then they also would have required you to own property to vote.)
Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips
But that man should play the tyrant over God, and find Him a better man than himself, is astonishing drama indeed!~~D. Sayers
There is no difference between an authoritarian government from the right or the left...F. A.Schaeffer
Government prints money?
That is what the FRS does. Only it's not money, FRNs, it's a digital entry with interest! WAKE UP.
Is Merrill Jenkins answer not sufficient?
http://home.earthlink.net/~cadman777/free_money.htm
By refusing to redeem their Federal Reserve notes, the Federal Reserve and Treasury both acknowledge bankruptcy. They know it. The European finance ministers know it. The Arabs know it. The only people who do not yet comprehend are the American victims whose silver and gold was stolen by the few people granted the power to print paper "money" at no cost to themselves and then use these "instruments" to steal our wealth. Yet the American people still REFUSE to believe they were robbed, and that the robbery continues!
"Lenin was certainly right. There is no subtler, no surer means of overturning the existing basis of society . . . The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the Ode of destruction, and does it in a manner which not one man in a million can diagnose . . ."
-- John Maynard Keynes
Fortunately, that one man in a million emerged, known by Monetary Realists as Merrill M.E. Jenkins, Sr., who cleared the air of economic smog and double talk, devoting the last 14 yens of his life to the exposure of "MONEY" . . . the Greatest Hoax on Earth."
But since the nature of coin, credit and circulation is still unknown to the vast majority of people, we continue to grind on towards oblivion, amassing fantastic debts amidst "prosperity."
"Long before we wake up from our dreams of prosperity through an inflated currency, our gold which could have kept us from catastrophe will have vanished, and no rate of interest will tempt it to return."
-- former Senator Elihu Root
Wow
This is incredible
LOL
Such a simple question but it is so true!!! The whole system is an illusion and functions based on what people are willing to go along with.....
Another question is when will the true government (the people) say enough is enough and I'm not going to fund this beast anymore!!!!!
Anyone ever read the Grace Commission Report?
The Report said that one-third of all income taxes is consumed by waste and inefficiency in the Federal Government, and another one-third escapes collection due to the underground economy. "With two-thirds of everyone's personal income taxes wasted or not collected, 100 percent of what is collected is absorbed solely by interest on the Federal debt and by Federal Government contributions to transfer payments. In other words, all individual income tax revenues are gone before one nickel is spent on the services which taxpayers expect from their Government."
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It continues
to appear less and less legitimate
Don't be so sure.
They are not pumping money into the system, that would mean cutting spending in other areas of the government. What they are doing is pumping trilliions of dollars worth of loan guarentees and credit into the market. If you thought people were going to take risks before, just wait.
Imagine yourself in debt up to your ears, you just lost your job and have very
little income. Along comes the bank, now owned by the government as says, no problem here is a credit card with no limit. You can pay me later. Of course it sounds great so you go out and buy, buy, buy. This of course will stimute the economy temporarily, or so they say, and that is true, but there will come a time when the government will want you to pay it back? You think then they are going to let you borrow more money? Remember the
government is not pumping money into the system, they are pumping credit
into the system, and credit needs to be paid back.
Welcome to statism, a system of socialism, which is capitalism at it's worse, no longer will individuals determine the market, now it is the government who will decide where they will spend your tax dollars. They will have you fighting over any money that exists on the market and sending tax revenues into the pockets of their banking associates.
It this something to fear, no, it is just something to be aware of and prepare
for, I suggest not getting caught up in the fever. But that is just my opinion.
Take care,
grant
Now, if only...
...we could get 100+ million people to NOT file or pay, perhaps they would notice. How about putting it like this: If you give your child an allowance and he/she spends it on something that you don't approve of (ie. drugs, pistol, tattoo, etc.) how do you handle it? You cut off the kid's allowance, right? Well, how is this different? (other than the men in black with a pocket full of zip-ties in your driveway). I say we cut off the allowance!
To answer Fedor's original question above, I believe as other posters do, that this is just like Zeitgeist proposes, that we've been conditioned to accept paying these taxes for so long that no one questions it anymore. It is to perpetuate the myth.
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As for me and my home, we will be buying ammo!
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Silence isn't always golden....sometimes it's yellow.
"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." - Patrick Henry
In the late 40s, a former
In the late 40s, a former head of the FED stated that there were only a few reasons for income taxes, gift taxes and estate taxes and none of those reasons had to do with revenue. The first reason was to enforce the use of Fiat Money, the second was to redistribute the wealth and the third was to maintain social control over the population.
http://www.1776solution.blogspot.com
http://militantjeffersonian.com
"Men do not willingly read unpalatable truths of themselves. The People like those best who fool them most, by pandering to their vices and flattering their foibles" Raphael Semmes
Hmm .. To Maintain The Myth?
Most people still believe that things work a lot differenly than they actualy do. Its the way they have been programed to think. If the guv suddenly stopped collecting taxes because it was a meaningless waste of time rounding up all that paper when they could just make more with a few keystrokes ... people would start to ask questions, wouldnt they?
Control.
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"An economy built on fiat money is a society on its way to ashes."
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"An economy built on fiat money is a society on its way to ashes."
More comments please
I am really trying to answer this question. It seems absurd. "They" have unlimited money. Did we just witness a crack in the illusion?
Why pay taxes for wars,
Why pay taxes for wars, abortions, bad education, torture, overthrowing governments, prosecution of nonvictim crimes etc. etc.
There are a million good reasons to oppose involuntary taxation.
Most of it boils down to the fact that they are involuntary and people are forced to pay them at gunpoint. As Ron Paul has said: "You have the right to keep the fruits of your labor"
You are missing the point
They don't really need the money. They use this as the mechanism to REMOVE money from circulation to hold down inflation, and promote social engineering of favored activities.
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Find out what's really going on!
Removing money from circulation
justifies monitoring your financial transactions. How convenient.
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If I had to guess, I
If I had to guess, I wouldn't doubt that the oil companies have some sort of agreement with the bankers to give the federal reserve some of their record profits to slow down inflation.
That's why even w/ $75 barrel oil, we'll still see $3+ a gallon at the pump.
Again, this is just a guess, but I think it would make sense for the bankers to have this deal with the oil companies...
Any way the federal reserve can get money out of the people's hands and recycled back into the system is something I'm sure the bankers use to slow down inflation.
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If owning them both is some sort of deal
they got it.
Explore Orthodox Christianity
to conceal the fraud,
to regulate our consumption, to keep prices as low as possible by keeping track of our "cash", to psyop us into believing that it's all theirs and they allow us to keep some.....
http://home.earthlink.net/~cadman777/Jenkins_TheIRS.htm
http://home.earthlink.net/~cadman777/aeonic_money.htm
"If governments should refrain from regulation....
the worthlessness of the money becomes appar-
ent and the fraud upon the public can be conceal-
ed no longer/"---Economist, John Maynard Keynes
-- The Economic Consequences of the Peace (1920)
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When the majority are rewarded with "worthless"
money for not producing, the ratio of production to
consumption must be ruthlessly regulated lest con-
sumption exceeds production and the system col-
lapses as the "worthless" money becomes useless
paper. There can be no better way to enhance this
ratio than to eliminate non productive babies, retir-
ees, cripples and military while many tax illusions
regulate consumption. Taxes cannot be real
with "worthless" money. Checks sent to IRS are no-
thing more than authorizations for banks to reduce
the numbers in an account.
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If I have done my thinking clearly and objectively there is only one thing that IS
INFLATION and that is modern "money" which is DEBT represented by paper
tokens called "dollar bills" which are accepted by the people as our "currency."
Now if government prints the currency they should only print enough for the
public to use to pay their taxes with. That is all they are entitled to. If they print
more than they have coming in taxes that would be the same as counterfeiting
would it not? The Government could not spend more than they print, but they
could print and spend more than they have coming in taxes. That must be what
they call deficit spending.
The public has to give up some production or perform a service to get "currency."
That is why the system "works" because everyone has to work to get "dollars"
therefore they expect everyone else to work to get "dollars"; except Government,
which has the power to tax the public. If the government can print and spend
more "currency" than it has coming in taxes, why don't they just print what they
want and forget about taxing the public?
Government uses the "currency" it takes in taxes to spend for the goods and
services it needs to operate. Why don't the public use THAT "currency" it
receives with which to pay its taxes? Why does Government have to print so much, all the time? Some is needed to replace old and worn paper tokens. Some
is needed to accommodate expansion. But the prodigious amounts being printed
cannot be for just those two reasons.
Why does the Government print so much "currency?" What do they do with it
when they are finished printing it? If they print it and have it why don't they spend
it into circulation or is that what is done? If they spend it into circulation and print
such prodigious amounts of it, why does the Government have to borrow?
We know that the government prints it. We know that the people have to work to
get it. But how do the banks get it to loan to the people and to government?
If the banks get it from the government why does the government have to pay
interest to the banks when they borrow it back? Why do they have to borrow it
back when they had it in the first place, why didn't they just use it? If they just use
it, that would be unfair if what they used exceeded what they had coming in
taxes. However, they are printing prodigious amounts of it. What is being done
with it? Who gets it and for what?
http://home.earthlink.net/~cadman777/treadmill-Jenkins.htm
I suspect it has a lot to do with this:
I suspect it has a lot to do with this:
If they just end all taxes, and only create new money for all their spending, inflation would quickly become hyper-inflation, and the currency would become worth nothing, and we would have total economic collapse while people run around with wheel-barrows full of worthless paper money, trading it for the first thing in sight. It's supply and demand. Keep increasing the supply of money faster than demand for money, and it becomes worth less, and buys less (prices for most items generally increase).
If they keep taxing, then they don't have to create as much new money, which increases the supply of money and decreases the value of it, and they get a little more time out of the system before the inevitable hyper-inflation and destruction of the currency.
People in the general public have known how our monetary system works probably since it's creation. It's not like people just now figured it out within the last month or anything. People have been teaching about it and preaching against it for a long time. Fiat currency is a bad thing. Sound money created by the free market is the solution. There are many good books about the monetary system and economics in general at http://www.mises.org if you're really interested.
End the Fed!
The 2009 Federal Budget is approx $3.1 Trillion
The 2009 Federal Budget is approx $3.1 Trillion! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_United_States_federal_budget)
If they did not collect taxes for most/all of that, there would be approx $3.1 Trillion more money created during this period, which would be a bit more inflation than what we have now.
The existence of the Fed is what makes this outrageous spending possible. Sound (free market) money would keep the government much smaller and keep more power in the people's hands rather than the governments.
Great point!
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Perfectly logical...in the crazy bankster world of liquidity and perpetual debt.
END the FED before it ENDS US
taxes
Income taxes go to pay the interest on the fiat money that the "FED" loans back to the government. So the scam works like this. The "FED" goes to the "mint", and pays 6 cents per bill printed, and loans it back to the government at face value, plus interest. Our "servants" in Government then obligate US to repay that loan. Since the government spends money like , well, a drunken government, the paper bills can't keep up, so our :servants" then authorized the "FED" to operate in "digits" The "FED" can sure make up some "digits" We still get to pay interest on the "digits" just like REAL MONEY.
So, the question should be why indeed should you pay taxes? Did you authorize your "servant" in DC to overspend by 10 plus TRILLION dollars?? I know I didn't. Yet WE, THE PEOPLE, are enslaved to the "FED" to repay the debt. Thats right I said enslaved, for the rest of your life, the life of your children, and your childrens children. During Reagans presidency, he put together an investigation called the Grace Commission. That found (in the 80s) that every dime of personal income tax collected went to pay the interest on the debt. Nothing has changed since, except the debt has grown exponentially. Guess you folks better go watch America Freedom to Fascism again.
Losthorizons.com
Go to losthorizons.com and find the solution to all this fraud.
There really is a way out of all this deception by the gangsters!
" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~
" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~
Taxes for revenue are obsolete
So said former Federal Reserve Chairman Beardsley Ruml in
1946
http://www.save-a-patriot.org/files/view/ruml.html
WHAT TAXES ARE REALLY FOR
Federal taxes can be made to serve four principal purposes of a social and economic character. These purposes are:
1. As an instrument of fiscal policy to help stabilize the purchasing power of the dollar;
2. To express public policy in the distribution of wealth and of income, as in the case of the progressive income and estate taxes;
3. To express public policy in subsidizing or in penalizing various industries and economic groups;
4. To isolate and assess directly the costs of certain national benefits, such as highways and social security.
I'm glad to see...
...that someone beat me to this. Well played, celt!
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"In questions of power, then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution." -- Thomas Jefferson