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How many DP members have filed an affidavit of sovereignty?

I'm working on one right now, using bits and pieces of examples I've found all over the web. As I explained it to my wife, it is nothing more than a safeguard for my inalienable rights, through a public proclamation of who I am politically and how I will allow government agencies, corporations, and other fictional entities to deal with me when proper terms are not disclosed.

I have found enough evidence to convince me that this is a worthwhile effort which can protect me from unwarranted trespass into my private life without my authorization. In other words, it is more of a defensive maneuver than an offensive one.

There are apparently some people out there attempting to use this as an offensive maneuver to "break into" and take advantage of the system rather than to protect themselves from it. I am referring specifically to Winston Shrout, Sam Kennedy, etc. and their purported successes in using IRS forms like the 1099-OID and so on to get massive refunds on their income taxes, using promissory notes to pay off auto and home loans, etc. Despite my recent post about a "Dr. Kennedy" interview with a man named Tom Schultz, I am very skeptical about some of these processes. Pardon me for getting caught up in the moment... ;-)

That said, I do believe that there is much validity to the basic premises behind many of the defensive tactics being used, and that if there are efforts being made to intentionally stretch the limits of what really does work in order to ensnare the misinformed, it is evidence that there is solid footing behind some of the more rational approaches to using these methods.

I'm wondering if anyone here has any stories they'd like to share.

p.s. - here's a link to the work in progress:
http://www.qustom.com/Affidavit_of_True_Name-JOHN_DOE.doc




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SOVEREIGNTY, Who Needs It?

From: http://www.expositor1.com/wtcinf03.htm

ONE OF THE MOST COMMON QUESTIONS people have concerning Sovereign & state Citizenship (aside from wanting to know the latest info on which words to capitalize) is: Why bother? That is, why go through all the hassle —of trotting down to the country recorder to file a revocation of the powers of attorney attached to a Social Security number; challenging the [right] to drive; writing letters to the IRS, Justice Department, franchise tax boards and others; and steadfastly refusing any and all government assistance (including disaster relief as some Southern California inhabitants have discovered is tied in to their SS numbers)?

There are three answers to this question: Practical, Philosophical, and Psychological.

First, the practical: There is no question that the government (federal, state, and local) can provide some with a cushy lifestyle via inflation, welfare, credit, entitlements, grants, limited liability, and raw, naked Power. In order to support this non-productive class, however, a much larger productive class must be tapped to pay the bills. Even though much can be financed by expansion of the money supply via the Federal Reserve, the productive class just still create the goods that fiat currency buys.

The odds are you are part of the productive class. You are most likely a net tax-payer, not a net tax-receiver. You pay into Social Security with no assurance that the money or even the system will be around when you retire (what you pay in goes right out to current recipients, a classic Ponzi-style pyramid scheme). You put savings into a bank account at 2-3% interest- which allows the bank to loan out six times as much money, usually to finance credit cards on which they receive 15-21% interest-with no guarantee (except the ‘full faith and credit of United State’) that a credit collapse or currency revaluation won’t suck your future dry. You have 30% or 40% or 50% of your paycheck withheld for state taxes, federal taxes, disability insurance, and more. You try to protect some of your wealth for your retirement by putting as much as you can into an IRA (oh, they changed the laws, making IRA’s worthless-put it in a 401(k) and hope they don’t do the same to that), trusting that you’ll be able to get it out decades from now when it may or may not have any value. You pay car registration for the privilege of driving (revocable at the whim of the state), you pay unending taxes upon your land (or, via rent, pay the taxes or your landlord) for the privilege of not being run off of it.

I think you get the point.

The practical side of re-establishing your primary Citizenship is that Citizens/Sovereigns of the states are not required to pay any of this.

The Sovereignty does not finance the national debt, they are not considered ‘national resources; they need not pay tribute to a master.

However, so few people inside or outside government understand this, that-realistically - one runs great risks consistently asserting one’s Sovereignty. (Not the least of which is being consider a fruitcake!)

Some of the obvious risks are: arrest and impounding of one’s conveyance due to the arresting officer’s mistaken notion that a Sovereign traveling in a peace of machinery is a ‘person’ ‘ driving a ‘motor vehicle’ in ‘traffic.’ Likewise, a tax-collector often mistakes a Citizen for a ‘resident’ or ‘taxpayer’ or ‘employee’ and must be corrected in their notion via tedious letter exchanges or even through courtroom proceedings. And once in the court for whatever reason, one must convince a judge comfortable in dealing with ‘residents’ and ‘US citizens that a state Citizen is not subject to the summary judgments and usurped powers of attorneys that pervade the system.

So why bother with the hassle? That’s where the Philosophical argument enters.

Our forefathers (in spirit as well as ancestry) fought a bloody revolution to wrest Sovereignty from the Crown and devolve it to the People. Many died in that struggle. Many more died in the second American revolution (the so-called ‘Civil War’) when federalism ran roughshod over the rights of state Citizens to impose an inferior US citizenship on Americans and create a subject class. Countless more have died since then in the wars and police actions of persons in government who believe that they wield the power of life and death over their ‘resources.’ [You!]

Is not the tedium of mistaken arrest for ‘traffic’ offenses or the occasional appearance in court a microscopically smaller price to pay for freedom than what Nathan Hale or Crispus Attuck paid? Especially when you can win with the proper arguments, because the Law is squarely (if obscurely) on your side?. The American Revolution did not end in 1776, or 1792, or 1814, or 1865. It continues to this very day. Valiant patriots fight for freedom in the courts, on the street corners, on cable TV, in meeting halls, on computer networks, and in newspapers and magazines. The war, now, is with words, not weapons. What is the risk a New Sovereign runs? A musket ball in the back? A rope of rough hemp around the neck? (Oops... I mean jute. US citizen are prohibited from using anything made from the cannabis plant!) Impressment on board a galleon swarming with scurvy sailors?

Hardly.

The risk these days amounts to the cost of notarization and filing fees, certified mail and postage, time spent churning out letters and notices to government agencies, time invested in learning the Law — the true law as preserved and passed on by our Founding Fathers - and informing others about it, and venturing out of one’s comfort zone into the world of assertiveness. Some very few may stumble and end up (temporarily) in the slammer, but so what? When Emerson asked jailed tax-rebel Henry David Thoreau what he was doing in there, Thoreau is attributed as replying "Henry, what are you doing out there?"

We cannot quail when faced with such meager threats when those who first envisioned a nation of freemen faced - and endured - far worse.

Has the slave mentality so pervaded our thinking that we can be ordered to fight and die for ‘the national interest’ but cannot conceive of living and struggling for our own personal freedom? It is in this realm that the Psychological argument holds sway.

After a brief 13 years of total freedom, some Americans created the Constitution and almost immediately the drive began to misconstruct it and undo all our hard-won freedoms. The concept of the Sovereign Citizen’s superiority to the government has been so eroded by the existence of US citizen-subjects that nearly no one can think in terms other than slavemaster dichotomies. Even New Sovereigns, at their darkest hours of discouragement’s, ponder whether the government will ‘allow’ them to assert their Citizenship.

This is how far we have descended for the lofty heights enjoyed by our forebears. This is why it is so important to stand up and declare your Sovereignty in spite of all who belittle it and misunderstand you. It is supremely important to one’s own self-esteem to shake off the slave mentality and behave as a Sovereign.

Think about the myriad ways in which the slave mentality serves as the chain - the only chain - that binds us to another. Because US citizens are considered nothing more than freed slaves, infants, or mental incompetents, the government graciously accepts power of attorney via such contracts of voluntary servitude as drivers’ licenses, SS numbers, mortgages, voter registration, signatures on 1040 forms, procurement of government loans, payment of land taxes, & etc. Once the government presumes one to possess the status of a subject of Congress, it does indeed offer all the benefits of slavery: limited liability and insurance (because a US citizen is considered too stupid to avoid risk), credit (too short-sighted to save for big-ticket items), housing (incapable of knowing to come in from the rain), police protection (not to be trusted with weapons of self-defense), and much, much more!

All this, however, comes at a price: everything US citizens create is property of the government(s) — including their children.

Think about that. Your car: If you own it, why can they imprison you, fine you, then impound and sell the machine if you do not pay annual tribute in the form of vehicle registration (which is explicitly imposed "in lieu of a property tax," according to California’s DMV)?

The land and home you ‘own’: if you stop paying taxes on it, what happens? It’s taken away! That can only happen if you do not in fact own it but merely rent it from your Master.

The guns you buy and carry to protect yourself, your family, and the Republic: there are more than 25,000 statutes regulating a US citizen’s "right" to keep and bear arms. That civil right can be — and is — taxed, regulated, and withheld at the will of the persons in government who "grant" constitutional rights conditionally to their subjects.

Your children: stored while young in public school concentration camps where gunfire (from resident criminals who ignore legislation) makes it impossible to concentrate and later, when older, subject to a military draft any time the government declares an emergency. And now, subject to national service (a civilian draft) as ‘payment’ for student loans — above and beyond repayment of principal and interest to the Bankers. And with the White House engaging in ‘generational accounting; the tax burden on the children of current US citizens is projected to be 71%!

In an effort to keep the slaves happy, the bread and circuses are distributed freely. In order to keep them paying, the public schools and government-franchised news media relentlessly drive home half-truths that the Constitution ‘grants’ civil rights (it does, but only to US citizens — Sovereigns have inalienable rights that the Constitution allegedly protects); that some of the responsibilities of US citizenship are to pay taxes, vote, and obey all statutes, codes, and regulations (again, true for US citizens, false for Citizens of the states); that all the freedoms gained in the Revolution are still ours today (they are for the Sovereignty, but not for the overwhelming majority defrauded into acquiring federal subject status); and that the United States is not an Empire, but is humanely dedicated to delivering the blessings of democracy to an eagerly waiting world (if one believes that, I have a bridge in Sarajevo priced to move).

Think about the crippling effect of considering one self a US citizen. First, one cannot perform any human action without pausing to think, " Is this permitted?" Since nearly everything has been declared illegal by statute and is allowed only on the procurement of a permit ( and the payment of a tribute), the US citizen develops a subject's epistemology: one’s actions are determined not by one’s own rational mind, but by reference to statute. Instead of following any action that might better his lot, a 14th Amendment citizen spends much of his life paralyzed by indecision: does he invest an inordinate amount of time locating the proper authority to beg permission or proceed without it and wait to be caught?

When faced with the demand to pay a government agency some expropriative amount, a US citizen will scrape up the money and pay, even if it means going hungry or into debt, to avoid face-to-face confrontation with an agent of the corporate state.

Fearing above all things the discomfort of admitting that they are not free, most simply do nothing with their existence, content to work for the government nearly half their lives, watch TV, and wait for age 65, when — they are assured — the government will take care of them completely and they can finally live off the slave labor of the children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren of themselves and others.

If faced with a treat from a thug, the US citizen looks vainly about for a government agent to protect them, instead of reacting to the threat with instant, withering self-defense. Told by his masters to comply with any demand, the federal slave meekly surrenders his property, just as he would to the tax man, then whimpers that the streets are unsafe and calls for more police, more prisons, and more aggressive victim-disarmament.

Encountering a new food, drug, or idea, the US citizen’s first thought is not "How wonderful!" but, "Is it safe? Is it approved? Has the proper agency examined it and declared it Good for me?"

There is no room in such a psychology for the pioneering spirit, for the dare-all, risk-all attitude that made these fifty countries great. A New Sovereign rejects the slave mentality utterly. A New Sovereign never seeks the permission or approval of any other than his own rational mind and moral sense. The Citizen stands tall and unbowed, secure in the knowledge that their actions better their own life and infringe not one iota on the liberty of others.

A Sovereign does not enthrall his future with easy credit and mortgages on the very Land on which he lives.

A Sovereign travels freely on the roads of America, paying tribute to no highwaymen, begging no plutocrat for the ‘privilege’ of locomotion.

A Sovereign provides their children with real education, not the socialistic, democratic creamed corn of the lowest-common-denominator government schools.

A sovereign learns the Law and speaks of it without shame or reservation, since the Law is for all.

A Sovereign pays only the taxes legally required of them, and cannot be cowed, coerced, or defrauded into paying a red cent more.

A Sovereign takes risks, but does not run to the government for relief from the realities and costs of failure. He does not demand that others share his risk without their consent.

A Sovereign rejects the easy justice and summary judgments of the Law Merchant. The common law is the best defender of their rights. A citizen stands tall in court, unashamed to demand - with cool-headed dignity — the rights and respect his status requires, never copping a plea, never bending the truth.

Most of all, a Citizen Sovereign is prepared to extend the lantern of freedom to all who would open their eyes to the light and welcome others into its expanding boundaries. The New Sovereigns stand ready to spread the seed of liberty across the planet and even to the stars, for our Right to Travel is as limitless as our ingenuity, and who but a free people have the courage, the determination, and the right to settle the new frontier?

"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." ~ Margaret Mead

Nice speech and sentiment

Nice speech and sentiment however reality is a different matter...

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Wow, thanks for that

Wow, thanks for that find!

That led me to this:
http://www.buildfreedom.com/tl/comliens.shtml#chp5

As I stated elsewhere in this post, this needs to be taken up as a defensive maneuver first and foremost. If one gets particularly well versed in the procedure and can use it offensively for honest advantage, then more power to them.

I like the idea posted down near the bottom about having a public declaration of soveriegnty, maybe a website or an organization of like minded people. In a way this is what the R3VOLution is all about, right?

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In my and many others

In my and many others experience when it gets down to it judges will ignore it and just railroad you. Some claim some isolated wins etc. and no doubt there are some however they are not reproducible as there is no verifiable evidence, case cites, etc that can be used. Administrative courts will seal and lose records of cases etc.

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The single best argument I

The single best argument I have heard against these kinds of tactics is that the affidavit is filed in the public record at the office of the county recorder, outside of the court system and in plain view of anyone who wants to seek it out.

It is also very important to always use registered mail with return receipt and restricted delivery when dealing with anyone who is infringing on your personal rights.

One of my favorite quotes from Judge Learned Hand sums this up nicely:

"I often wonder whether we do not rest our hopes too much upon constitutions, upon law and upon courts. These are false hopes, believe me, these are false hopes. Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it; no constitution, no law, no court can even do much to help it. While it lies there it needs no constitution, no law, no courts to save it."

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It not the affidavit that

It not the affidavit that one need worry about. It is successfully winning your case or should I say have an administrative law court admit they have no jurisdiction over you yet the case cannot be found in the records of the court there after and used to free others from their unlawful jurisdiction.

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I did it. It was great. But it got lonely and I immigrated to

America.
here's my story. http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=3381690932443008214
You have to skip to 13:03 and you'll see my whole story.

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New Freeland, huh?

Nice. Did you bring any shampoo?

I have no desire to start my own country. I just want my old country back.

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Me too Vince. I actually did read the stuff and I'm having

my lawyer go over it for me. The thread just reminded me of that skit and I had to share it.
I used to love that show.

Long time no speeky 2 u.

www.redemptionservice.com

Just thought you would want to check it out?

interesting.

i wish i could speak to people. my crazy gf keeps me on a short rope made of blackmail.

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Wow, I wouldn't go near

Wow, I wouldn't go near their "service" with a ten foot pole. Yikes!

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Is this a flashback to

1980 and the farm credit issue? Been there...done that... I fell off the world 28 years ago..... Just been hunkering down off the grid waiting for this crisis to manifest itself. Good things come to those who wait.

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Formally or

Formally or informally?

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I LIKE IT!!

Let us know how it turns out. I myself have much of the info you are expressing in your declaration, but as I have most of the important info memorized, I can recite my intent when needed.

I have seen (with 1st hand knowledge) lawyers, code enforcement officers,police and other govt. officials visibly shake or simply say "you know, I never thought of it that way."

ALWAYS ASSERT YOUR RIGHTS!! IF YOU DON'T, YOU HAVE NONE.

Two important things to memorize U.S. Code Title 18 section 242 & 241.

§ 242. Deprivation of rights under color of law

Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.

And,

§ 241. Conspiracy against rights
If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same.
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

Wow

Great info. I am just starting Michael Badnarik's book Its Good to be King and I bet he has some of this in it. Thanks.

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I believe

those are the statutes for "official oppression", no?

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To Kelldor re TeamLaw

There are a LOT of arguments on both sides of the issue; of course there are a lot of intertwining issues with everything related to our government and its history as it relates to the various venues of law such as the Common Law, equity law, admiralty law, commercial law, etc.

Here's some food for thought. From TeamLaw's website:

"The foundational problem with the whole Strawman theology is that it is based upon the thesis that the UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT is a government when in fact it is only a private foreign corporation (hereinafter “Corp. U.S.”). Within its own corporate purview, like in any corporation, it is a 'government', but outside of that purview it has no government authority whatsoever."

OK, but... the STRAWMAN issue is based on commercial law, and as such it fully recognizes the fact that "the UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT is a only a private foreign corporation", and it deals with it as such, rather than trying to shout about the "unconstitutionality" of this or that statute. Well of course most laws are unconstitutional; they were enacted by an unconstitutional FOREIGN CORPORATION. TeamLaw is missing the point here IMHO.

Many people in the "law profession" who have major problems with UCC and STRAWMAN issues (such as Larry Becraft, L.B. Bork) are steeped in statutory law and therefor have problems unwinding their minds from what they thought they've known all these years. The Randy Kelton interviews I posted below are a perfect example of this. Randy is one of the country's acknowledged legal reform experts in the statutory realm and a true American hero, and he was blown away when he heard how Joe Edwards used some very simple issues of citizenship and jurisdiction to literally tie a court in knots over the driver license issue. This series of interviews should be necessary listening for EVERY AMERICAN in my opinion.

Randy Kelton interviews Joe Edwards (some shows Joe doesn't come in right away, or at all in hour one, but I've included the full shows anyhow):

http://mp3.wtprn.com/Kelton/0808/20080818_Mon_Kelton1.mp3
http://mp3.wtprn.com/Kelton/0808/20080818_Mon_Kelton2.mp3
http://mp3.wtprn.com/Kelton/0808/20080822_Fri_Kelton1.mp3
http://mp3.wtprn.com/Kelton/0808/20080822_Fri_Kelton2.mp3
http://mp3.wtprn.com/Kelton/0808/20080822_Fri_Kelton3.mp3
http://mp3.wtprn.com/Kelton/0808/20080822_Fri_Kelton4.mp3
http://mp3.wtprn.com/Kelton/0808/20080829_Fri_Kelton1.mp3
http://mp3.wtprn.com/Kelton/0808/20080829_Fri_Kelton2.mp3
http://mp3.wtprn.com/Kelton/0808/20080829_Fri_Kelton3.mp3
http://mp3.wtprn.com/Kelton/0808/20080829_Fri_Kelton4.mp3

Another excellent bit of reading that will help many get up to speed on these kinds of issues is "The UCC Connection" by Howard Freeman:

http://usa-the-republic.com/revenue/ucc%20connection.html

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The UCC is to regulate

The UCC is to regulate commerce between the Corp. States, which are sub-corporations of USA. The SSN belongs to the Corp. U.S. and creates a revocable trust between the individual and Corp. USA. The Corp. States are not involved in that relationship, so the UCC doesn't apply to it.

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Not true

All of the states have adopted the UCC. That's what the "U" is for, Universal.

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Is True!

That absolutely is true! And the U is for Uniform Commercial Code, not Universal.

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I knew that...

Thanks for the correction. That's what I get for posting at 1:30am!

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Well, let's see it

After all, if it's good, share it, and if it's not, improve it. :)

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Okay, here you go

http://www.qustom.com/Affidavit_of_True_Name-JOHN_DOE.doc

The part I am not completely sure about is Section 9.b.i,ii,iii, etc.

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Thanks

Not to put you on the spot at all, but the info is worth sharing. :)

I agree...

this would be good for all patriots to have :)

Obama = O.ne B.ig A.ss M.istake A.merica

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Here are some resources

http://goldismoney.info/forums/archive/index.php/t-741.html

http://www.constitutionpreservation.org/wtprn/Affidavit_of_S... (Michael Badnarik's site)

http://www.mind-trek.com/practicl/afdv-gen.htm

The show "Bridging the Gap" with Michael Beiter is very informative:
http://mp3.wtprn.com/Beiter08.html (they've since moved to http://glo.com/)

This is the website for "Bridging the Gap":
http://upperandlowercase.com/ (go to "enter site" create an account, and look in the UCC area for a post titled "strawman copywrite[sic] completed...")

Here is an interview with Jim Purcey. He wrote a book called "Am I the Only American Who Thinks This Way?":
http://www.qustom.com/audio/1013083.mp3

Here is Jim Purcey's website:
http://www.americaindistress.com/

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Your link didn't work

But I figured it out. I have used some of the phraseology in that document in my own document. Here is the link again:

http://www.constitutionpreservation.org/wtprn/Affidavit_of_S...

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