“Zeitgeist Addendum” Uses Brainwashing Editing Techniques? Please Read!!
Ok people this is VERY important!! Look at the intro to "Zeitgeist Addendum", it's more than just plain aesthetics. First it makes you focus on a single point like a hypnotist, then it incorporates these intense periods of fast flickering strobe like imagery, followed by periods of instant calm. That throws people's brains for a loop without them even really knowing about it, and then induces a far more mesmerized and suggestible state. It's as if it was produced by a PsyOps technician or something, or at least someone who knows brainwashing type techniques.
It's also like what integrators do, they shout and scream at people, then offer them tea and biscuits, then shout and scream at them again, it's a way of breaking down people's mental barriers. The first film's intro also had this type of sequence, presented in a slightly different way with tanks and bombs bombarding people’s senses, with intersecting “serene” moments.
After doing a lot of editing work myself I look at this and think: "what is this guy trying to achieve with a sequence like this?". My conclusion is that he’s trying to produce something that's not designed to please people, but to actually try and reach into their brains a bit, so that information can be sort of more implanted than absorbed and accepted consciously. I don't know, but I certainly don't feel right about Zeitgeist from a technical stand point, it seems rather disturbing and manipulative.
It’s like something from Clock Work Orange where the main character in that is being “reconditioned” with strobing imagery. It's sick and a lot of people haven’t even got a clue what their looking at. This guy Peter Joseph can claim it's "art" all day, the bottom-line is that if his film were to be broadcast it would most likely break a ton of broadcasting laws because of the intro alone. It would probably induce epileptic fits in a minority of people, on the majority it would have varying degrees of a manipulative effect on their critical thinking, making them more cognitively malleable and primed to absorb the "information" (ideology more to the point) presented in the film with less critical filtering.
These are just observations which could be wrong, but it's a critique that needs to be made that not too many people are making.
Yes, But It's A Kindergarten Attempt
And the "message" is some mealy newaged claptrap. It's got no chance of fooling anyone, so I wouldn't worry.
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels
I don't know if its brain
I don't know if its brain washing, but I know it is absolutely wrong to force your neighbor to live in a socialist society, and its not possible to have a socialist society without force.
bump for individual liberty and private property
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"...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy
Drink not of the Z-Koolaid, stay thirsty my friends.
Tired of the NWO brainwashing and propaganda in the military-industrial media and controlled opposition and co-opted cults like the Zeit Heist.
I would rather restore our Constitutional Republic to that of which it was originally intended by our Founding Fathers through peaceful revolution, education, conventional political action and civil disobedience, if necessary, than join up with a New Peoples Temple advertising and recruiting for a communist techno-religious utopia.
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"...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy
BBOOOOOOOOO!!! 'Zeitgeist'
Here's What I Got Too Say About The World Of Zeitgeist:
Hour Of The Time, Fighting For Freedom
http://www.hourofthetime.com/Hour_of_the_Time/HOTT_HOME.html
William Cooper, A Short Biography
http://www.hourofthetime.com/william.htm
MAJESTYTWELVE by William Cooper
http://www.hourofthetime.com/majestyt.htm
Podcast Archive
http://www.hourofthetime.com/Hour_of_the_Time/Podcasts/Archi...
The Hour Of Our Time William Cooper 1-9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYPIBnjLIT8
The Missing 13th Amendment,"TITLES OF NOBILITY" AND "HONOR"
http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/13th-amend.shtml,
http://www.w3f.com/patriots/13/13th-13.html
Take your time folks. William Cooper a true modern Patriot and my personal 'Hero' alone with Dr. Ron Paul.
Please, for your own sanity, just stop.
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The effect is even better when your high
I wonder what these films would be like on
shrooms...
good show.
i can tell you without even attempting it.
what is it with you??!!
Would you wackos drop this crap already? All freakin week this has been going on. Is it any *wonder* the damn Revolution has a reputation for being conspiracy freaks and tinfoil hat wearers?!
"Dependence begets subservience and venality, suffocates the germ of virtue, and prepares fit tools for the designs of ambition." -- Thomas Jefferson
Yes, I noticed a lot of motion ...
behind the video images in the frame work, sort of like when watching MSM news, CNN, FAUX, etc.
"The high office of President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the Americans freedom, and before I leave office I must inform the citizen of his plight."
- John Fitzgerald Kennedy
Exactly, I just mentioned
Exactly, I just mentioned what's in the intro, there's a whole other load of stuff in it that seems highly manipulative.
I agree
I pointed out on a previous thread that I noticed some audio techniques. In terms of music recording, cause that's the only way I know how to portray this observation, the narrators voice was slowed down by somewhere between 2-5 beats per minute, creating a lower tone meant to disarm the viewer and suck them in, imho. Notice how his voice throughout the movie is a slow droning monotone? I hear 2 things: 1) audio editing by slightly slowing down the audio track, and 2) the narrator's intent to never allow himself any serious fluctuations in voice pitch or speed of talking.
I believe that both methods constitute a purposeful attempt at brainwashing. That is just my opinion, and I can not prove it, but I'm still allowed to give my opinion, I hope... When I can't is the day I won't return. I suppose I will now be called a bigot for saying what I think, by the same people who resorted to name calling and insinuations as rebuttal against G. Edward Griffins review. I never read 1 single thought provoking rebuttal, only derogatory remarks.
Nice Clockwork Orange analogy btw. Great movie if you haven't seen it.
Lastly, you know how throughout the years the NWO has used symbolism to flaunt their plans in our faces, believing we are too stupid to figure it out? The beginning and end of the movie has the 1 eye filling up the screen. I think it's the same thing here. Of course, that too is just my opinion. Again, I suppose that makes me a bigot.
I do not see how calling people commies hippies and new agers constitutes bigotry. Bigotry implies race, period. I don't see anyone attacking others based on race. This is a political website, and criticism of political ideologies is fair game, imho. All I see here is the following:
"First they laugh at you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." What can we learn from this? If you keep on calling people "Christian Bigots", then those who oppose this movie shall ultimately win the argument. So by all means, keep up the slander. It makes you look dumb, because you are simply applying the same techniques that the ADL and AIPAC influenced MSM applies to any individual that criticizes US foreign policy by calling them "Anti-Semitic". If you continue this course of action, then you are no different.
Zeitgeist movie creates fear - that is your first warning.
I fell prey to this movie. Even worse, I watched it over and over again. I fact checked it. I ignorantly walked more and more into it. It has ruined my psyche. It leaves the viewer feeling hopeless. I am fighting to get my life back, and to keep from contaminating others.
This movie needs to be banned. The author needs to be prosecuted.
It sucks the viewer in with 1/2 truths, and enough truth to get a nod.
I have found links to discredit it. Without any of that, let's check the motives...
THE MOVIE ITSELF USES FEAR TO CONTROL PEOPLE.
Without hope, you have nothing. With hope, you have everything. This movie broke the core of my beliefs, and replaced them with twisted conspiracy.
Here's what I say:
The end of the world is not coming, people will be here for a very long time.
When you the spirit lives inside you, you cannot deny it. Temptation, and sin against your own core of beliefs; pulls it away from you.
There is a God.
Practice love, and compassion.
They can only beat you, if you let them.
As the Bible says; evil perverts religions. And churches shall marry society.
Stay true to your spirit. Find your inner strength.
Churches, and religions, will manipulate you. They are man made. Even still, this amuses God, as it still brings more people to him; through spirit.
I have been blessed enough to take hold of the spirit more than five times in my life, maintaining it is the key. I want it back, I want to keep it.
Forgive yourself, and practice love. Nothing else matters, we are only here for a short time, compared to eternity.
"If you know what life is worth, you will look for yours on Earth..." - Bob Marley
a debunking link:
http://www.conspiracyscience.com/site/contact/
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FunkyOnion
Great post man! People
Great post man! People should definitely take a step back and have a second look at Zeitgeist from an analytical perspective, because it does seem far more manipulative than aesthetic.
Quit with the F#@&*n Zeitgeist posts.
No one cares what your opinion is or anyone's opinion is. We can watch it for ourselves and make our own decisions. Get It?
If we wish to discuss it we will find somewhere to do so, but here is not the place.
For or Against. . . . your all jackasses. Go play elsewhere children. . .
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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make
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*facepalm* Oh FFS, shut up.......
If you believe in this bullshit, good for you... go sip the kool-aid at jonestown... get it OVER WITH.
As for me, I'm going to keep fighting the real NWO and for real change... Capitalism FTW, Free Markets FTW, Property Rights FTW, Money - Gold standard FTW, Profit FTW, Interest FTW...
Karl Marx FTFL, Communist Manifesto Planks FTFL, Anarcho-Communism (tribes) and the regression of civilization FTFL...
Sip your kool-aid, and leave the rest of us alone... we're fed up with the bs.
There Is Actually No Argument
The ones here promoting the film and Peter Joseph have never met him, know nothing about him. Why do you promote someone you do not know?
This is so...... '60's cultist thingish thingy, nothin' new, carry on.
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I suspect he has watched old sci-fi movies while smokin' pot and maybe more. He likes black 'n white that resembles the old sci-fi movies. This thought may be unfair, may not be.
That man at 58 seconds or so is an exact replica of the old movies, the way he's standin', facin', black 'n white, etc. And, the way that he rambles off some far-fetched supposedly highly intelligent agenda of the emperors so-to-speak. Higher intelligence than the world has ever known, "let it be known, throughout the world, we shall reign a new world previously unknown to man, unknown to mankind". Proclaim I say, Proclaim!
H'mmm, sounds like: New World Order?
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After seein' "DoctorSparkles" post: This film and there are many others that have effects from the "drug culture" in them, and I'm not talking about "blowin' some smoke". There are effects that "once upon a time" only drug users saw and or experienced. Now all people can have "similar visual experiences" just by watchin' a movie and or t.v. show. If you have done some of these drugs you can easily recognize these with past experiences. I'm sometimes "amazed" at what I see in these programs. Drugs without the actual drugs.
I'm not interested in utopianism
This addendum is bad news. I'll stick with Ron Paul's Campaign for Liberty and not this Joseph guy's personal religion.
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"...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy
Why
Are people still posting about that thing. Its so last week.
Get a grip
People are so freaked out about Zeitgeist because of the religious implications. They are so afraid to look at the fact that several entities before Jesus were recorded to have arrived in the same manner, did the same things, and so forth.
Give people some credit for being able to watch it and take from it what they will, not being brainwashed, but hopefully informed and with an open mind.
Meh. I think you're blowing
Meh. I think you're blowing this out of proportion. Firstly, hypnosis does not work on everyone, there are levels of suggestibility. Secondly, if you are aware of varied mind/body states then being even slightly in some state other than normal waking is not such a scary thing necessarily. Did it brainwash you? NO? YES? OTHER?
I mean really man, if anything it added aesthetics to the film that made it more, yes perhaps hypnotic, but I would say it allows the viewer to enter the frame of the movie better. . .
My personal take is that this guy has had psychedelic experiences because it seems to contain the sort of humour and insight that can accompany such things! The use of certain symbolism leads me to believe that he's laughing at the conspiracy nuts who see boogeymen around every corner, and is a nod to those who see things from a different perspective. . .
For more info in that vein I would suggest you become converted to the Church of the SubGenius, that will test your metal!!!
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self-reinforcing psychological mode of control
Your use of the pejorative label "conspiracy nuts" only diminishes your credibility in my opinion. But then I oppose arbitrary, artificial limits on free and rational debate (which is really the underlying, self-reinforcing, psychological mode of control that is comprised of the widespread use of perjorative language like "conspiracy nuts").
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"...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy
to: OP
relax, yo
Be aware what you fear.
What you fear you will attract.
Be aware what you hate.
What you hate you will become.
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Apparently it worked
on about 3 people here.
LOL!
The truth is BigT
It's a small group of vocal bigots here on DP that have halted the discussion. There were many DP members who liked the film. They had no desire to debate bigots.......
Ah, but on one of the
Ah, but on one of the Zeitgiest blogs I notices a very distinct warning which stated that if anyone made any comments on the site that were in disagreement with the message of the Zeitgiest Addendum, those comments would be immediately deleted. At least you get a chance here to express yourself without immediately being deleted...talk about censorship...go to Zeitgiest!
http://www.1776solution.blogspot.com
http://militantjeffersonian.com
"Men do not willingly read unpalatable truths of themselves. The People like those best who fool them most, by pandering to their vices and flattering their foibles" Raphael Semmes
I wanted to post about that
but then my post was deleted along with the thread.
I'll try to reiterate my post and then maybe you'll understand:
I created that blog for the forward progression of ideas about how to get around the monetary system. It was specifically not for discussing why the monetary system must be used.
This is Nystrom's site and he can delete posts that he wants, and I don't fault him-it's his site. He did delete alot of my comments from that thread and I have no problem with that, it's his site.
It is anti free speech on this forum to hurl personal insults against an opinion because we are for the restoring the constitutional form of government to the united states (says so in the banner at the top of the page). The first amendment clearly states Freedom of Speech as the number one requirement of a constitutional republic. On a larger scale the constitution also protects property rights and this is Nystrom's site as much as my blog is my site. So, whenever you're on my blog you've got to obey the rules or else I can cast you out.
I have reworked my blog anyway so anyone can comment. It's URL is in my signature if you want to impress upon me how right you are.
http://killfiat.blogspot.com/
http://killfiat.blogspot.com/
Criticism is bigotry now?
Criticism is bigotry now? Sounds a bit fundamentalist, dogmatic and bigoted of you there bud.
There's obviously been no "halt of discussion" on that topic.
It's dominated the whole website for a week.
What apparently bothers you is that you don't find agreement from many here.
That's the way the cookie crumbles, guy.
Suck it up and move on.