Is Anyone Interested in Having a REASONABLE discussion about Zeitgiest's IdeasSubmitted by MikeLawson on Wed, 10/15/2008 - 19:20
I personally don't see how to get from our current state of affairs to "Venus" in one generation. And that's what I want to discuss. How do we get there? It's not a matter of imagining life without money; I am a highly educated good ole boy who's forgotten more than most folks ever learn. I am not interested in any fights, but I would love to have an honest discussion of this idea. We do need an ultimate goal, but we have to know if it is attainable or if the premises laid out are even valid.
Here's a couple of my concerns:
They seem to ascribe the "western economic bubble" mentality to all people of the world and I know that many cultures have resisted the modern western system already. I want to know if the venus plan would seek to have these types of people "modernize" as well?
Another is the assertion that before civilization the world was united and working for a common purpose is not really accurate in the context he describes it. The people of the world before agriculture primarily lived in small family groups and lived 100% off the land. They had no money and were very happy. But with agriculture came surplus and from surplus came the ability for people to engage in activities not directly related to food production for the majority of their days. As I see it, our system does not have it's roots in scarcity, but in surplus.
I have more thoughts, but those are my biggies