I Wanted Some Feedback On This Idea
I wanted some feedback on this idea, I've told a few people, but I got blank stares.
I've been thinking about alternatives to the public school system.
I read that, on average, it costs $10,770 to educate one child, for one year, in the public school system (I also read that the actual amount is closer to $20,000 when you add in teacher benefits, pensions...).
The average cost to educate a child in private school is $6,600 a year.
Private schools (on average) have a more rigorous curriculum, and higher graduation rates.
If you send your child to private school you're paying twice, once in tuition, and again in property taxes. In Florida, about 25% of the money you pay in property taxes goes to education.
I was thinking, why not let parents send their child to a private school of their choice (or homeschool), and let them deduct the percentage of their property taxes that goes to education?
So in FL, if your property taxes are $10,000 a year, you could deduct up to $2,500 (you'd then use that money for tuition).
If you didn't have children you could just pay the money in taxes, as usual, or you could give the money to a scholarship fund and take the deduction (it would also be deductible as a charitable contribution on your federal income taxes).
I think this plan would actually save the states money, because they would have less children in public school.
Any thoughts?
Excellent Idea
It's much like a voucher system that should be supported by all freedom loving individuals seeking more choice in their lives. I'd add an exception to your idea. If you don't have children, you don't have to pay the tax. Period. One should not be forced to pay for the education of the neighbors kids. (at least not in a free society).
"..shall not be infringed."
"..shall not be infringed."
I love the voucher system. Money should be attached to the child
not to the school. This would create a free-market school system, "don't like the school? Pull your child out and send them somewhere else.." This would allow good schools to succeed and bad schools to fail! In my opinion all public schools should fail!
(Oh wait, maybe they're too big to fail, we should prop them up...)
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Who will shove Ritalin down the kids' throats?
You realize that public schools get extra money for dealing with "problem" children? There is a full-on assault to diagnose every kid with SOMETHING so we can medicate them early and often! Of course, the poor, good-hearted teachers are just using their "expertise" and "helping" children...
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What is wrong with this picture?
20,000.00 to educate your child in a public school. 6,000.00 to educate your child in a private school. This here shows how incompetent government programs are. I think public shools should be inline with the private schools. As to cost. This is incompetence at its best. Now they want to run the health care too. Give me a laxative so I can s&^$ in there faces. NUFF SAID
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They get
matching funds from the government and they want more children, not fewer and they want your child counted present. Also they intend to indoctrinate your child, so they don't want to decrease taxes and let you take your child out, that would be incentive to take your child out. They want your child in.
thats a great idea.
could definitely save public schools money and make them more efficient by reducing the number of students.
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Sorry, that makes sense.
We can't have it.
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
That's pretty similar to the voucher programs
Anything that breaks the NEA and DOEd grip is good. They have a very firm grip.
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Here's a pretty good article
Here's a pretty good article on how the schools are working just fine...for indoctrination:
http://jim.com/schools.htm
I forget where I read it,
I forget where I read it, but I remember reading that somewhere where vouchers were tried pretty heavily, it was expected that parent's would pull their kids out of public schools and send them to private schools. This did happen to a certain extent the first year. But the public schools were able to quickly react and make themselves competitve after which many parents started sending their children back to the public schools. Just goes to show how adding some competition can help the whole system.
are you sure
IT's a McCain policy PROMO
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I think it's a good idea.
I think it's a good idea. Instead of everyone paying for a public school and then not necessarily using it and having to pay more for homeschool, I think each person should be able to put their money where they want it.
DONE that
THIS idea would be called VOUCHERS....ALready proposed & on a platform...
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Basically you are describing
Basically you are describing what the voucher system does. We have been trying to get that here for years but it keeps getting shot down. Would definitely be a step in the right direction. Also, regarding Home Schooling.... I have met several home schooled children and I am always impressed by the level of intelligence and maturity they present. Far superior to their public school counterparts.
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Sounds like a great idea,
but the way our govt. is right now, whenever they give us something, they require something in return. In this case, they would require oversight into the homeschool, (probably making sure our kids turn out politically correct, and produce less carbon, etc, etc. ) If there were a tax deduction for homeschoolers, I would not take it for this reason. We have solar power and we are very poor, yet I could have gotten a govt. grant to pay for half of our system but there was a catch. We would have to register it with the state, and file reports on our system. NO THANKS
There is certainly some common sense in your
proposal. Taxation to pay for education is a serious issue in every state. And I think each locality and state should work these issues out for themselves. You bring up two side issues; the cost per student and the quality of the education.
One way to significantly bring down the cost of education is to eliminate federal law governing local school systems and the extent of state oversight. Counterintuitively, I think, simplifying our public educational system will improve the overall quality.
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Good Idea, but it won't ever happen
because they have to have the captive tax money to support the failed public schools! Too many people would take advantage of this!
For the person who complained about private schools indoctrinating with Christian doctrine---there is nothing that says private schools have to be started by a Christian organization or individual!
choice
The wonderful thing with private or home schools is you can look at the agenda and decide what you want taught to your children. Try that in government run schools. When my son was in elementary school he brought home a book the class was to read and do a report. I tried to be involved in what went on in my son's education. After reading the book, I felt it was nothing but brain washing my son to believe we all owed the blacks in our country so much because of what their ancestors were put through. (I am all for equal rights but not this type garbage) I wish I could remember the name of the book. It showed whites to be terrible people. I talked with his teacher and asked he be given a different book. She refused and I can proudly say my son received an F because he never read the book. Now that he is grown and can make his own decisions and form his own opinions, he can read it if he wants. But I do not believe the "public" school system has the right to try to form racial opinions in 9 or 10 year children. (or any other age for that matter)
some states have voucher
some states have voucher programs but they leave much to be desired. Ideally, we should have true choice and homeschooling is best for many. If parents go with home or private and receive relief from that public tax, just think of the competition it would put on public school! And we know, competition is what's needed to produce a better product. We are up against big money all the way to the top and NEA is major foe of school choice.
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I totally agree!
CRAZY - I was just thinking this - this morning and explaining it to my husband. There is no sence in our public school system, I too am in Florida (north fl) and I question how, being raised in the system I came out of it believing what I do. My son is in public school too and we talk and study the constitution and all aspects of his studies. I don't tell him what to think, I just introduce the freedom philosphey and he forms his own opinion. Most of the time he gets it! The rest of it I leave in Gods hands.
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Poor people cant go to
Poor people cant go to private school.
And private schools are houses of Christian indoctrination. Your so-called New World Order, CFR scum all went to private schools.
I beg to differ about private schools
Our first year of homeschool in 1984 was as a satellite school of a major actual Christian private school. It is also where we learned (and our children of course) of the Constitution, how our govt is socialistic, and also of a certain congressman from Texas who always voted Constitutionally. It was this Christian school that taught us all the things that we here at daily paul talk about.
Exactly! In many ways we
Exactly! In many ways we are enslaved by the 'law' on public schooling and the federal involvement. Now you want to talk endoctrination?!! Give me a break! Looks like they did a number on Cameron_DeHart! Maybe he's from Germany where they still lock up parents for homeschooling and abduct their children for the good of the state, placing them in foster homes. Yes, Germany still does this holdover from Hitler days.
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Trust in God, but tie your camel tight.
"Socialism needs two legs on which to stand; a right and a left. While appearing to be in complete opposition to one another,they both march in the same direction." - Paul Proctor
Homeschools are private schools.
And they are not expensive, and often not Christian but rather the choice of many freedom-minded families. They can be tailored for each family;or several families can form a homeschool coop. I've known lots of single, working homeschool parents with zero money for extras. It just takes committment and enjoying being with your kids a lot. Creativity helps, and the parents can improve their own levels of education right along with their kids.
It's nonsense that poor people have to be dependent on handouts from the state. Those handouts are traps with lots of controls by elitist "experts" that want to mold kids into obediant citizens who accept orders, from what to think to what vaccines are given at what ages, on and on.
Of course it would save
Of course it would save money. I believe Ron has even alluded to this. But do you think they would ever consider lowering property taxes? Do you think the NEA would stand to be outshined by private schools and homeschoolers? From my understanding, they get money based on how many kids are in the seats in the classrooms. They're not going to let those kids go easy.
But yes, it's a great idea to not charge people taxes on things they don't participate in or believe in. If I ever have children I'll do everything in my power to keep them out of dumbing-down socialism camp, er, I mean public school.