For all you pacifist.. who just want to sit on your hands... DO YOU KNOW THAT THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE PRIVATE PROPERTY NEXT??
Submitted by Jdayh on Mon, 10/20/2008 - 08:11
Alan Watt on Alex Jones Tv "New Socialist Agenda"
THIS IS SO ENLIGHTENING!!! If you don't know what they are teaching and are not taking specific actions to counter it ... you have already given up.. in your mind!!!
PLEASE WATCH....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVMKs25aKFo PART 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgypzwLELHM PART 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTIYiVCErEA PART 3
If you have watched this and don't know WHAT TO DO-- GO HERE AND READ THIS AND JUST GO TAKE ACTION...
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/64588#comment-707659
ACTION CURES FEAR..
Jdayh
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I know what your saying
and I listen to Alan Watt all the time. He also puts it like this, "just try not paying your property taxes", then you will realize you don't own anything.
Don’t get your panties in a bunch, Junior.
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My panties aren't in a
My panties aren't in a bunch. However, I do find it a bit disingenuous of the author of the post regarding the geocities site. Instead of going to the source to learn the truth and then refuting Team Law's claim, he has posted a slanderous site by a disgruntled third party and using it as an excuse to regard the work of Team Law as bogus.
And, why are you being so condescending?
Please watch all 3 of these videos...
there is so much good information there...
Jdayh, I hope you don't just
Jdayh, I hope you don't just write-off Team Law because of what was posted by "Bob". Don't write it off until you can prove it wrong yourself.
thanks for that.. I was a bit put off by the post... but
I think if the things said about the NSA reporting that the military would be behind a fully constitutional or (original seating) President, etc are true, then it is worth pursuing.. most of what was posted. was complaints about the guy who runs team law charging money... and really I have no problem with that.. I mean if you have specialized knowledge and it can help people
.. you have 3 choices..
-- give it away for free full time... and live in your car.. begging for food..
-- charge money .... and be able to make it a full time venture... with out being homeless..*as long as the knowledge you are selling is real .. of course....)
--- work a job/business that does not allow you to pursue the dissemination of your knowledge on a full time basis... so very few people find out... and less people are helped..
Many people (and many are patriots) get all upset if $ is charged for sometime of extreme value... Years ago.. I was working for a Trust company... I was the VP of Marketing. and guess what? We charged people money!! about 2,500 for one trust.. and some people needed 3 ...
But we saved people tens of thousands of dollars on their taxes... etc. They were legal contract trusts based on the same type of trust the constitution was based on .. and they worked!!! While I may give a discount to a fellow patriot... It makes almost no sense to charge nothing..(unless you don't need the money... and you are doing it like full time hobby... then it is a different story)
This is so the mentality of today!
When someone PRODUCES value, he/they deserve to be paid for that production - period! It's called a win-win.
If you don't feel the value they create is worth what is charged, you are free to purchase the product elsewhere.
The Producer should charge for the service/production - it's called self-interest - a right to make a living just like everyone else.
If given away for free, it is not valued by the receiver.
People should NEVER expect something for nothing - it's an insult.
If someone wants to do something, as a way of giving back to society, then that's also a different story. But never assume they should provide their services, whether it be tangible or intangible, for free. "for the good of the people" smacks of socialism mentality.
CATCH UP there is NO PRIVATE PROP.
THEY already did rule YOU out of your, HA!! ,PRIVATE PROPERTY rights about 4-6 years ago ...WE are under INTERNATIONAL land use management, NOW.....LONG GONE
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I understand your concern…
In the old days (who knows how old…), you got a bill of sale of sale. The government held zero interest in anything a United States freeman possessed. Nothing even remotely like a property tax existed.
Under the dead system you have no absolute ownership. Your property "shall remain vested in the federal government forever." So the lowlifes have already done the dead (no pun intended).
Under the dead system, they only have to possess your property. The federal government already owns it.
Get the microscope out—see it for yourself. It makes for a disgusting manifestation, but the more you know about scum…
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Washington State
Here in Washington State the dems are trying to put a tax on our equity :/
that is INSANE... I mean sometimes I wonder if some smart
patriot would not just go off.. and take loaded weapons ..and go on an executioners run one night.. leaving copies of the constitution with both the parts they are violating.. and the parts that authorize the patriot to defend his nation with the force of the gun....
I mean... c'mon.... how much more robbery are we the people going to take...
I know lets wait until they want to take our first born... then would we stand up?? or how about on a persons wedding night.. they would come and take the wife to be .. and have their way with her... then ??? WHAT IN GODS NAME WILL IT TAKE TO JUST SAY THIS IS WAY TOO MUCH !!!!! AND BECOME OBSESSED WITH ORGANIZING ,ORGANIZING , ORGANIZING ,ORGANIZING ... UNTIL YOU HAD ENOUGH INTELLIGENT PEOPLE who were just as excited to bring these dirt bags to justice as you.....
all part of the
all part of the plan!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/69673#comment-733722
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“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)
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If you bought your property
If you bought your property and used the Social Security Number, you don't technically own the property. The relationship established through the use of the Social Security Administration's number is a Revocable Trust with the United States Government General Trust Fund as the Beneficiary and the individual using the number acting as Trustee.
To learn more about this visit Team Law: http://teamlaw.org/
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True, but remember, fraud vitiates any contract or agreement.
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Where, exactly, do you see
Where, exactly, do you see fraud? The Social Security Act is a matter of public record.
Thanks for that... I will check it out and read up on it..
I imagine it gives a different way to purchase property w/o the ss# ... (of course with cash.. I imagine...)
More about team law
You might also find this interesting: www.geocities.com/teamlawwarning/index.html
That site strikes me as sour
That site strikes me as sour grapes. And, what does it really refute? Nothing as far as I can see.
The SS# claim is bogus - the number doesn't belong to the individual, only the creator, which is the Social Security Administration.
The Driver License issue - if the SSN was used in the driver's license application, then the license doesn't belong to the individual.
A number of the links on that page are now dead, they didn't used to be. I had spoken with Eric Madsen about the Geocities site recently, when all the links worked, and he said that he and the author of the site where currently in litigation; and, due to that he couldn't go into greater detail. I suspect the author is his ex-wife. It doesn't make the information presented by Team Law any less relevant.
Furthermore, Team Law's only purpose is to help people learn and study this nation's history and law. And, finally, if Team Law was ripping people off, as this disgruntled author claims, then wouldn't, at the very least, someone have filed some sort of negative feed back posted on the Better Business Bureau: http://www.newmexicoandsouthwestcolorado.bbb.org/BusinessRep... ? The organization has been around since 1996.
Also, wouldn't you expect a Patriot fighting the establishment to have a criminal record?? Even the Ron Paul crowd recognizes that it doesn't take much to get booked...just show up at a protest with a camera...you'll be lucky not to get your head crushed by a horse.
You, unfortunately, do a disservice by what you insinuated when you posted this.
wow.. just goes to show.. there are two sides to each coin..
thanks for the post...
An article I wrote years ago
can help us understand what has been going on. From understanding comes self-confidence and courage - two things we can all enjoy more of.
paul4won: I totally sympathize with you. So many around here are the same as you are finding. Most people won't act until the pain reaches a certain level. The pain level is rising and we are seeing more and more people speaking out (squawking). They only win when we give up.
Property & Rights
2003, 07/27
For generations now we (the world) have been bombarded with an idealogy foreign to common sense, historically proven precepts and solid knowledge. The newer generations have been especially inculcated with these aberrant views. I have. You have. This is not news. What may be news is learning the extent of this purposeful miseducation and conditioning of the masses. I'm specifically referring to concepts of law, equity, rights and property. We have been awash by our miseducations, media and peers by concepts of communism, socialism, fascism and sundry forms of control by those endeavoring for centuries to gain total control over all things on our planet earth including all humanity. As a consequence of these concerted actions very few people today know anything about these issues and understand even less. Our conditioning has not been restricted to religion, politics and social mores but to every conceivable facet of our lives including business, property and rights. Our entire society is founded on these age old precepts, laws and common sense. Yet this foundation has been eroded to where it barely exists, if at all. Being replaced by pragmatism, civic expediancy, sacrifice of the few for the many and other such nonsense designed to relieved everyone of anything so control freaks can then assume control within that deliberately created vacuum.
Yesterday I attended a We The People meeting for this county. There was a small though very nice and capable gathering of lovely people. I can honestly say I've been there and done that. They wish for me to present something on just these issues because we know they are at the very heart of most of the troubles facing society and our American society especially. Likewise there has been a continuing invitation (more like arm twisting) to get me to present this same material to the WTP chapters north of Denver by some who've known me for years.
I could write several books on these issues and indeed many people have down through the centuries. Hard to imagine all that material has been swept under the socialist rug in just a few short generations. I won't turn this into a book. Instead I'll try to keep things focused, short and sweet.
Property & Rights
Now we get to some knotty things like property, rights and control - all of which run counter to what we have been miseducated to NOT understand or in any way give much importance to. It may or may not come as a surprise to learn all social activity is derived from property (your rights are your property). It was a surprise to me to learn this some years ago. The other revelation is rights and property are so intertwined they cannot be untwined. If there is property there are rights to that property. If there are rights there must be a property object of those rights. This is knowledge handed down from generation to generation and is encapsulated in English Common Law - the same law our country is firmly founded upon. These ancient and well developed precepts of property and rights has been swept aside and civil, equity, statutory, merchant and admiralty law covertly substituted in its place - hence all the nightmares we witness everyday in our so-called court rooms and legislatures.
Cayce was once asked what would be the social structure of the future. His reply was one emphasized word "Capitalism!" Capitalism is based on property and rights to that property. He didn't say socialism, communism or CORPORATISM, the real nasty. Corporatism, as we misknow it, is dead and is being transformed as we speak. What it will become is anybody's guess. But it will certainly die and be replaced. Maybe it is this NEW form I've been struggling to uncover for so long. I dunno. There is certainly plenty of room for improvement and creative endeavoring.
Spirituality is fine and dandy for spiritual growth and the intents and purposes of humanity and ourselves. But business is business and must be handled in a business-like way, with ethics, morality, respect and consideration. We can endeavor to spiritualize business and business practices. I would enjoy that.
Years ago I prepared a document online covering many of these issues, focused around zoning (usurped property rights and their rights of use). You might enjoy reading it as it covers natural rights, civil rights, rights of use, private property and "shared" property:
http://www.svpvril.com/nozoning.html
Y to Y
If you have been paying any attention to the U.N.s work toward Y to Y http://maps.y2y.net/googlemap.htm and other U.N. biosphere plans, the taking of private property and pushing of rural people into the cities has been in the works for quite some time.
Pat
BOHICA!!
Pat
BOHICA!!
Not really a pacifist about it
I did everything I could think of. I belonged to a meetup with almost 300 people. When they signed the bailout, 6 of us protested.
I am well aware that they are coming for everything, mostly my liberty. I thought I was part of a group of individuals hell-bent on protecting the Constitution and liberty. I now find that almost no one will risk anything for either.
I believe the FEMA camps are real. I USED to believe if my husband and I disappeared, someone would look for us and fight for our freedom. Now I realize no one is looking out for me but me, and so I have gotten much more serious about looking out for myself. I took down my signs, will be covering my bumper stickers with something non-controversial, and I will be smiling and going along with the new global socialism.
I was ready to fight and die. There were about 6 people who stood with me in the streets and demanded justice. Now I am ready to just survive, and try to enjoy my life the best I can.
Sunshine patriot, quitter, coward, call me whatever you want, I do not care. I gave everything I had, time, money and energy I did not really even have. I can assure that most of the "Patriots" are now labelled "cowards" in my heart, so go ahead and call me all the names you want. (For the record, jdayh is NOT one of the people I consider a coward.)
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.
you know.... that is the worst part of waking up...
..is realizing that many people you know are too afraid of the consequences--(or the responsibility) to wake up.. Just be grateful.. you could have a family of neocons that have threatened to turn you in to the government... just because you believe in the Constitution.. and the liberty it proclaims!
......and for the record.. ANY ONE WHO EVER CALLED YOU A SUNSHINE PATRIOT.. IS A COMPLETE MORON AND AN IDIOT....!!!! A person can only do so much alone... it takes a team of people to accomplish great things... So just always keep your eyes open.. you may run into a worthwhile patriot at your local library , grocery store, etc.... just keep networking... you never know who you might meet and where...
...Just like evil NWO creatures(ie political hacks) have an unseen army... so do the the good guys... :) and they know that you are on their side. and they will lead you to other good guys... JUST ASK.....
(lets see there was a wise man who once said "knock and the door will be opened".... or "ask and you shall receive".. he was pretty popular... even was in a global book that is a worldwide best seller...)
I do not consider you a coward...
You are like many of us, in stealth mode....
They have already taken
They have already taken it!!!!!!!
The US gov already own 1/2 of the mortgages in America. The upcoming deflationary depression then hyperinflation will virtually guarantee that most of these mortgages are foreclosed and PRESTO - the gov owns these homes free and clear.