Zeitgeist Rebuttal - convenient link now

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I know we've discussed Zeitgeist: Addendum already, and that G. Edward Griffin's rebuttal has been posted, but I only just now finally found a permanent link to it, and lo and behold, it has been submitted to Digg already.

So here it is, for your Digging pleasure:

http://digg.com/political_opinion/G_Edward_Griffin_reviews_Z...

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ZA contains rehashed esoterica

What concerns me is the ones who are pushing ZA, who also know about the NWO that don't see the connection between the "collective cosmic conciousness" concept described in ZA and the roots of this concept in the very same occult practices of the NWO elites. Hello? this is NOT a new idea! By promoting ZA, they are aiding the efforts of the proponents of the NWO religion.

All please look up Aleister Crowley, Madame Blavatsky, Alice Bailey, Kabbalah, Theosophy, Thelema, Lucis Trust (used to be Lucifer's Trust) for starters.

Here are some links:

Aleister Crowley and the Hidden God
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Aleister-Crowley-and-the-Hi...

"In this study of Aleister Crowley's system of sexual magic, Kenneth Grant reveals the occult workings of the Fire Snake or Kundalini-Goddess, the cosmic power that, when awakened by magical means, assumes the form that Crowley called "The Scarlet Woman". Grant also describes a method of dream control that Crowley and others used to establish contact with extraterrestrial and non-human beings and to prepare themselves for the realization of true COSMIC CONCIOUSNESS."

THE SECRET DOCTRINE: THE SYNTHESIS OF SCIENCE, RELIGION, AND PHILOSOPHY. by H. P. BLAVATSKY
www.theosociety.org/pasadena/sd/sd-hp.htm

"The Secret Doctrine teaches no Atheism, except in the Hindu sense of the word nastika, or the rejection of idols, including every anthropomorphic god. In this sense every Occultist is a Nastika. (2) It admits a Logos or a collective "Creator" of the Universe; a Demi-urgos — in the sense implied when one speaks of an "Architect" as the "Creator" of an edifice, whereas that Architect has never touched one stone of it, but, while furnishing the plan, left all the manual labour to the masons; in our case the plan was furnished by the Ideation of the Universe, and the constructive labour was left to the Hosts of intelligent Powers and Forces. But that Demiurgos is no personal deity, —i.e., an imperfect extra-cosmicgod, — but only the aggregate of the Dhyan-Chohans and the other forces. As to the latter — (3) They are dual in their character; being composed of (a)the irrational brute energy, inherent in matter, and (b) the intelligent soul or COSMIC CONCIOUSNESS which directs and guides that energy, and which is the Dhyan-Chohanic thought reflecting the Ideation of the Universal mind."

THE UNITED RELIGIONS (read the quote about Alice Bailey at the top)
http://watch.pair.com/UR.html

MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT of Revelation 17 -- a world-wide resurgence of pagan religions which will persecute those who do not embrace the new spirituality, now defined as the “COSMIC CONCIOUSNESS.”

RELIGION BAITING: SEDUCING THE EVANGELICAL RIGHT
www.newswithviews.com/Rae/debra15.htm

"Darwin contended that, over time and apart from God, human thinking, philosophy, and destiny are improving progressively. Eventually, a sort of utopian, one-world order will emerge—enabled and empowered by collective COSMIC CONCIOUSNESS."

COSMIC CONSCIOUSNESS-OR ELSE
www.newswithviews.com/Rae/debra5.htm

"The Earth Charter characterizes us as “one human family and one Earth community with a common destiny.” It further compels us to “join together to bring forth a sustainable global society founded on respect for nature, universal human rights, economic justice, and a culture of peace.” All are embraced and promoted by the United Religious Initiative, a sort of spiritual UN. In calling for a “New World spirit,” Gorbachev names cosmos (Greek for “world order”) as his god. Alarmingly, COSMIC CONSCIOUSNESS has its roots deep within occult societies, as the Rosicrucian Order and the Theosophical Society."

So, there you have it folks. the same old pagan occultic claptap re-branded and wrapped up in a new package. I hope you're not fooled.

We don't see a connection because

THERE IS NO CONNECTION. You are PARANOID. It is a movie. ONE man's vision of the future. Nothing more. My god, WAKE UP. These paranoid rants make us all look like fruitcakes.

What's this "us" stuff??

You're not part of the Ron Paul movement. You've only been on this site for a couple of weeks and your sole purpose for being here is to promote ZA.

You don't see the connection because you don't want to; nor do you want others to be aware of the occult roots of the collective cosmic conciousness crap. You want them to think this is a brand new idea. But anyone with a bit of knowledge in this area can see right through it.

Paranoia denotes fear. I do not fear ZA, the NWO or you because I'm on God's side. And realize this - people in the RP movement are used to the bad guys call us names. It doesn't faze us. It just shows we're right when the opposition has to resort to name calling and other disinfo tactics in order to suppress the truth.

"US" is the Ron Paul Revolution

you are an extremist. You have a very different agenda. You are using this movement and website to further your own goals. Take a look at your silly username. You are fooling no one. God bless you brother, but just know I see right thru "you".

Which you are not a part of

I seriously doubt you put anywhere near the effort that I did trying to help out the RP campaign. I was the asst. organizer on a meetup during the primaries and we captured 50% of the delegate/alternate positions in this district for Ron Paul and I was the one coordinating efforts between counties. That took a lot of work and I feel good about putting my personal life on hold to participate.

I will continue to fight for freedom, truth, and all that is good in this world and against the NWO elite in any way I can - that includes exposing their agenda whenever and wherever it pops up as well as educating others who may not have studied the spiritual aspects of the NWO. There is no need for me to attempt to "fool" anyone, as the people on this website are generally discerning enough to know when to utilize or discard whatever information comes their way.

You, on the other hand, are promoting a movie that claims political activity is useless while flashing a picture of Dr. Paul. You are the one denouncing Ron Paul's religion on a site dedicated to him. You are the one attempting to "use this movement and website to further your own goals." You are exhibiting sociopathic behavior with this hypocrisy by playing this "game of projection" and accusing me of the same undesirable traits that you possess in such a greater degree as well as accusing me of functioning out of some sort of hidden aganda.

oh my dear brother in Christ

I was a meetup organizer. I have met Dr. Paul. I even have a photo. I have set up several meetings with local community members, etc. I just put my Ron Paul lawn sign out, again. It's you, my friend, who is using this movement. Isn't that right, my dear brother in Christ?

If you love Zitgust... you have nothing to do with Christ.

Unless you meant "Horus" or some other wacky-do new age BS.

http://www.conspiracyscience.com/articles/zeitgeist/part-one/

QUOTE from "Zietgeist, the Movie"

Christianity, along with all other theistic belief systems, is the fraud of the age. It served to detach the species from the natural world, and likewise, each other. It supports blind submission to authority. It reduces human responsibility to the effect that "God" controls everything, and in turn awful crimes can be justified in the name of Divine Pursuit. And most importantly, it empowers those who know the truth but use the myth to manipulate and control societies. The religious myth is the most powerful device ever created, and serves as the psychological soil upon which other myths can flourish.

And the CS author's analysis:

This conclusion is obviously trying to bring the viewer to a final point. After the film maker has "proven" [via lies, distortions, and a wagonload of BS] to you that all of the religions have stolen from each other, chiefly Christianity, he then goes on to lead you to the conclusion that religions are evil and support all these horrible things. While it's true religion can be bad, it can also be good for some people. If religion was created to control people and their opinions, then how can one view a film which is full of absolutely false statements about mythology, religious history, Judaism, and Christianity itself?

If you are a follower of the "Zeitgeist" producers ideas -- you are most definitely NOT a "brother in Christ."

Here come the paranoid Christians!

Once again, I AM a CHRISTIAN and you people and your ignorance are destroying the church. Period. Our faith has been USED to enslave US. Pretty fricking obvious. But NOOOOO you think Zeitgeist is attacking "Christ". Silly. God Bless.

"Dear brother in Christ"???

Don't give me that Jekyll-Hyde behavior.

This is an act.

The REAL Fedor is the one who spews insults at everyone who didn't give up their existing belief system on the day ZA came out.

YOU are the "newbie" fruitcake...

You've had NOTHING to do with the RP movement... ever.

You came on here a few weeks back and have done NOTHING but push the "Zitgust commune" mentality.

You have a very different agenda. You are using this movement and website to further your own goals. Take a look at your silly username. You are fooling no one.

To the contrary...

It makes Z-cultists like yourself look like koolaid-drinking frootcakes.

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thank you for exposing this dangerous cult

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"...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

Sure

We all need to keep doing that!

Yeah I expose

organized religion every chance I get.

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Why are you taking up for the Z-cult oruval?

Their High Priest has clearly professed a distinct contempt for individual liberty and private property.

We should be focusing on action to restore the Constitution and individual liberty, not fabian-marxist utopian visions.

What do you think Ron Paul would say to the ideas expressed in Zeit Heist?

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"...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

I see the bad..

I see the stifling of technology.. I see the stifling of freedom.. Fact is the few in power are winning because we are fighting amongst ourselves.

I must say ignore him. By playing his game you are only stoking the fire.

I'm not defending him in the least. He seems to be doing a good job of that on his own.

so what if his high priest or what ever has professed whatever.. Think of it this way.. Zeitgeist is exposing a hell of a lot with it's message. And if you haven't figured it out the Marxist are about to win with Obama anyhow.

I guess what I'm saying is don't attack.. I've been that way and learned that when you play their game they own you.

Practice your freedom and liberty by setting an example.. Learn to separate the good parts of the movie from the bad and take it as your own.

Look I'm still here and wouldn't have been here in the first place if not for the movie..

But I'm still here and wouldn't have found out without movies like Z.

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Thank you for this important article...

We, the Freedom Movement, need to reject recycled fabian-marxism and techno-religious utopias if we want to restore the Constitution and individual liberty. Don't be distracted by the cultists trying to hijack the Daily Paul for their lost communist cause.

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Oh look, the same 4 or 5 antiZeitgeist paranoid patriots

are coming! Go get um boys...that darn movie is dangerous :) Silly, silly, silly

Hello Zeitgeist Techno

Hello Zeitgeist Techno Commie!!!

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Oh, look... the ZitGust TROLL is back again.

There's like what.... TWO or THREE of you on here pushing this crapola on everyone day-in-day-out.

Poor Eddy didn't understand the film

His arguments do not apply to Zeitgeist. Just more of the same paranoid BS that makes us all look stupid. A sad day for this revolution.

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

Poor Fedor is a Z-Cult troll

G. Edward Griffin has done more for freedom and liberty in this country than "Peter Joseph" could do in his marxist-utopian wet dreams.

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I don't care what EDDY says

he is wrong and thinks like an old bitter man. He is not my leader.

You've been exposed...

This from the individual who thinks Obama is slightly better than McCain.

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Obama is BETTER

Mccain is a military veteran and a TRAITOR to the uniform. I hold him accountable. I expected more from him. Go Obama, bring the GOP down, down, down. We will be there to rebuild it and make it better.

Wow

Fedor supports Obama. Imagine that.

thanks for the disinfo

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