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BOMBARD AUTHOR OF THIS PRO-VACCINATION COLUMN IN WND !!!

Submitted by America Loves R... on Thu, 10/30/2008 - 09:22
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Just wanted to let you all know that the neocon-leaning WND has just released an article by a guy who calls all anti-vaccinators "superstitious", "ignorant", "irrational", "unreasonable", "hysterical", "frightened" - ".......all because some parents are so concerned with unsubstantiated propaganda that they are shunning vitally important medical technology and proven medical science."

Check out this minion's article:

"Don't buy the vaccines-autism myth" - by Phil Elmore of World Net Daily

Here is his email addy: pelmore@wnd.com

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I will be on vaccine radio show this evening.....

Submitted by America Loves R... on Mon, 11/10/2008 - 18:28.

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....along with Ingri Cassel and Wendy Callahan of www.vaclib.org

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Vaccine Truth Hour

4:30 PM Pacific, 5:30 PM Mtn., 6:30 PM Central, 7:30 PM Eastern.

Here's the link to listen:

http://www.therealpublicradio.net/index.html

If you want to call-in, here's that info:

Conference-Call # : 712-432-8773 Pin : 179441 #
7:30 P.M. Eastern-Time

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Hey, PHIL ELMORE !!!!!!

Submitted by America Loves R... on Sun, 11/09/2008 - 00:46.

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Why no studies of the unvaccinated?

You don't have a valid answer.

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DP must be getting quite a

Submitted by NJforRP on Fri, 11/07/2008 - 19:36.

DP must be getting quite a reputation for corporate shills to show up here.

Long live freedom.... MEDICAL FREEDOM.

HPV VACCINE FOR BOYS !!!!!!!!!!!

Submitted by America Loves R... on Fri, 11/07/2008 - 19:05.

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Hey, Mr. Phil Elmore !!!!!

If they start mandating the HPV vaccine for little boys, are you going to call those of us who oppose such madness as "conspiracy theorists"?

Where do YOU draw the line - - or WILL you draw the line?

TAKE A LOOK AT THIS VIDEO FROM YAHOO NEWS TODAY !!!!

Doctors Want Boys To Get Gardasil Shot

UN-FREAKIN'- BELIEVABLE !!!!!
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UN-FREAKIN'- BELIEVABLE !!!!!

Submitted by Hannah2 on Fri, 11/07/2008 - 21:42.

and OUTRAGEOUS

LMAO!! The one and only Phil Elmore?

Submitted by Dale in Oklahoma on Fri, 11/07/2008 - 17:30.

Phil has been a member here for a whole 8 hours and has already established himself as an idiotic troll boy....must not come here very often...in other words....he doesn't know us to well does he... LOL

Could this be the same Phil Elmore who goes around to 9/11 threads and has this to say "Please stop the WTC conspiracy theorizing. It's silly." and then points to Popular Mechanics to save the day?..LOL

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/72169

Why go anywhere to blast him, this idiot is in our midst.

Phil the shill

Submitted by MrTom on Fri, 11/07/2008 - 18:07.

So now all doubt has been removed and another spook has revealed himself, Phil is on the payroll of the bad guys, he has sold his soul to the devil and like I said before, phuck you Phil.

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my kids

Submitted by NJforRP on Fri, 11/07/2008 - 15:15.

did not receive shots until they were 5 years old. They are healthy as horses.
Am I willfully ignorant? Nope.

I also had measles, and chicken pox, as a kid. Guess what, they go away.

Parents should set the schedule, with advise from their doctor.

There are no absolutes, and parents have the right to decide. To declare someone exercising their rights as ignorant, is ignorant in itself.

The Amish that don't vaccinate, don't have any autism cases.

What you fail to point out is that the insurance industry will never insure the vaccine business due to it's inherent risk, and the federal government has to deal with the fallout when the statistics come to bear on some unsuspecting family. Vaccines are inherently dangerous, as that is why they get federal protection, and have a special court to deal with the damage that they cause. If vaccines were safe, this court would not exist.

These deaths are considered 'acceptable' for the 'common good' and perhaps there are some parents that think sacrificing their kids for the 'common good' should be another family's job.

I guess you missed the news when the government conceded the vac-autism link in this court.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-kirby/government-concede...

After years of insisting there is no evidence to link vaccines with the onset of autism spectrum disorder (ASD), the US government has quietly conceded a vaccine-autism case in the Court of Federal Claims.

The unprecedented concession was filed on November 9, and sealed to protect the plaintiff's identify. It was obtained through individuals unrelated to the case.

The claim, one of 4,900 autism cases currently pending in Federal "Vaccine Court," was conceded by US Assistant Attorney General Peter Keisler and other Justice Department officials, on behalf of the Department of Health and Human Services, the "defendant" in all Vaccine Court cases.

The child's claim against the government -- that mercury-containing vaccines were the cause of her autism -- was supposed to be one of three "test cases" for the thimerosal-autism theory currently under consideration by a three-member panel of Special Masters, the presiding justices in Federal Claims Court.

According to you, DHHS is now 'ignorant.

The vaccine court no longer

Submitted by PhilElmore on Fri, 11/07/2008 - 15:43.

The vaccine court no longer uses a preponderance of evidence standard for handing out awards. It simply grants awards if the claim is judged to be "plausible" -- but no evidence need be presented. The Hannah Poling case demonstrates this. I covered all of that in the article I linked previously.

http://www.themartialist.com/stiletto/005.htm

Yes, parents should set the vaccination schedule with the advice of their pediatricians. I've not said otherwise. I've simply argued that parents should follow the recommended vaccination schedule because it is the responsible, logical, scientifically based decision. Extending the schedule out of fear caused by urban myths -- and discredited urban myths at that -- is illogical and willfully ignorant.

- Phil Elmore

http://www.philelmore.com
http://www.themartialist.com
http://www.myspace.com/phil_elmore

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Wow

Submitted by veeew on Fri, 11/07/2008 - 21:25.

This Phil Elmore character sounds like he might be on the payroll of Wyeth or Pfizer. Following the recommended vaccination schedule is anything but responsible, logical, or scientifically-based. It is dangerous, ridiculous, and drug company-profit based. Please show me this credible "science" and not the kind that is constructed by drug companies to pretend that their vaccines are safe and effective. And no matter how many times the media shills repeat the lie that Gardasil is effective and a "breakthrough" for girls and HPV, it will never make it true. The only thing Gardasil has done is severly injure and kill many of the girls that have received it. Drugs in general kill hundreds of thousands of people every year. Vaccines are destroying society and nobody should EVER be forced or coerced into receiving them. In fact, I believe they should be outlawed because of the widespread destruction they are causing. They are not safe, they are not effective, and they are not scientifically-based.

My 11yr. young Daughter....

Submitted by chas_eric on Fri, 11/07/2008 - 21:10.

who was homed birthed (vaginally). Breastfeed for 3 years and not ONE vaccination ever! She has never had chicken-pocks, missals or sick in any form. "urban myths -- and discredited urban myths at that" Sorry, I just deal with Reality ! Charles

How many more do they have to add before you cry uncle?

Submitted by America Loves R... on Fri, 11/07/2008 - 16:54.

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Phil Elmore said:

I've simply argued that parents should follow the recommended vaccination schedule because it is the responsible, logical, scientifically based decision.

The following comparison says it all.

Of course, I don't even agree with the 1983 schedule because ALL vaccinations are bad, but just take a look at 2008 in-comparison.

AIN'T THAT SWEET !!????

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Comparison of CDC Mandatory Vaccine Schedule
Children birth to six years (recommended month)

USA 1983

DTP (2)
OPV (2)
DTP (4)
OPV (4)
DTP (6)
MMR (15)
DTP (18)
OPV (18)
DTP (48)
OPV (48)

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USA 2008

Influenza
(prenatal)
Hep B (birth)
Hep B (1)
DTaP (2)
Hib (2)
IPV (2)
PCV (2)
Rotavrus (2)
Hep B (4)
DTaP (4)
Hib (4)
IPV (4)
PCV (4)
Rotavirus (4)
Hep B (6)
DTaP (6)
Hib (6)
IPV (6)
PCV (6)
Influenza (6)
Rotavirus (6)
Hib (12)
MMR (12)
Varicella (12)
PCV (12)
Hep A (12)
DTaP (15)
Hep A (18)
Influenza (18)
Influenza (30)
Influenza (42)
MMR (48)
DTaP (48)
IPV (48)
Influenza (54)
Influenza (66)

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Is it any wonder that childhood diseases, including allergies, diabetes, cancer, autism, asthma, etc, have skyrocketed in the past 20 years?

They keep fear-mongering us that polio, measles, smallpox, etc, will all make comebacks if we quit vaccinating, but vaccination never stopped any of those diseases anyhow. They were all in 80%-90% decline before the vaccines were ever introduced, due to sanitation, hygiene and availability of food.

What do they have to say about all the other epidemics that vaccines are causing?

They say NOTHING.......only deny, deny, deny, deny any linkage.
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To buy into this

Submitted by NJforRP on Fri, 11/07/2008 - 14:26.

One must assume that every Pharma company never makes a mistake, and no drug has ever been recalled.

Big Pharma is constantly changing and creating new vaccines, so to declare each one safe in perpetuity is foolish. Can you say Vioxx?

The fact is, that the increase in the mandatory vaccine schedule dovetails with the onset of new childhood illnesses, that do not exist in non-vaccinated populations

The Amish have zero Autism cases... zero.

In any event, the true issue is who is responsible for our children. Parents? Or the government?
If you think parents are responsible for their kids, the vaccine debate is moot, as parents will do what is best for their kids.

If you think government owns children, your will make sure that government force will be brought down on parents that think they are responsible for their children.

In the end, doctors, and parents, should have this debate, a million times a day in the doctor's office, and parents are the final arbiter.

But that won't help Big Pharma of course, so we get Mr. Ellmore to help their case along.

You're repeating falsehoods.

Submitted by PhilElmore on Fri, 11/07/2008 - 14:38.

Among other things, the Amish do have autism, and they do vaccinate. I cited the evidence or this in my article:

http://www.themartialist.com/stiletto/005.htm

I'm also not sure why you automatically equate encouraging parents to be responsible with empowering the government to force them to do something. I do not now, nor have I ever, supported forcing vaccinations of anyone for anything. I argue simply that parents who base their decisions on the vaccines=autism myth are buying superstition over science.

- Phil Elmore

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so are you just pissed off

Submitted by Dale in Oklahoma on Fri, 11/07/2008 - 17:45.

that McCain didn't win or what? Don't you have something better to do than join our little party and try push your ignorance on people? Or you just trying to get some hits on your site? I'm afraid your going to have a hard time getting along with anyone here given your superiority complex.

Yeah.

Submitted by oruval on Fri, 11/07/2008 - 14:10.

Tell that to 80% of nurses who don't get a Flu Shot.

Only time my mom has had the FLU was after taking a flu shot and she never gets them anymore..

She works at a hospital. I have aunts who are nurses, a sister in law and a good friend who are all nurses who don't get flu shots.

Also my Little Nephew is mildly autistic, you tread on thin Ice with me I can tell you.

Push your bullshit vaccines on another website.

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You STILL haven't addressed the unvaccinated as a control group

Submitted by America Loves R... on Fri, 11/07/2008 - 14:05.

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Mr. Elmore,

I read your open-letter to all of us "conspiracy theorists".

I could nit-pick about a hundred things in your letter, but the main thing that jumped out was that you totally glossed-over the fact that there's never been a study conducted of the unvaccinated.

You said:

Ms. Cournoyer attempts to assert that none of the studies failing to find a link between Thimerosal in vaccines and the onset of autism included unvaccinated control groups. They are therefore part of the vast conspiracy in which she apparently believes. She repeats the falsehood that the Amish, whose children are unvaccinated, have no autism. This is based on the assertions of UPI reporter Dan Olmsted, who in 2005 wrote that there was little or no autism among the Amish of Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. "Olmsted's anecdotal evidence is cited ad nauseam as evidence that Thimerosal causes autism," writes Ashley Reynolds. "The case rests on twin assumptions: that the Amish don't vaccinate, and that they don't have autism. But Olmsted never visted the cryptically-named Clinic for Special Children in Strasburg, where doctors treat children who exhibit autistics behavior." As it turns out, the Amish do vaccinate, and there are children among them who do exhibit symptoms of autism. To accept the existence of the "Amish anomaly," we are also expected to accept the absurd notion that members of a population that shuns technology and most of the modern world would run right out and report high-functioning (or the easier to diagnose low-functioning) autism, after first being just as willing and able to diagnose this disorder as are their modern-world counterparts ("Autism isn't a diagnosis," Reynolds quotes Doctor Kevin Strauss, "it's a description of behavior.")

First off, can you confirm which sectors of the Amish community actually vaccinate?

Secondly, can you show the proof/statistics of the Amish who are reporting autism?

Thirdly, and most importantly, WHERE ARE THE STUDIES WHICH INCLUDE THE UNVACCINATED AS A CONTROL GROUP?

You act like it's completely insane for a study to be done which takes them into account.

There has NOT been one, and you cannot justify why not.

Also, I find it interesting when you said:

As it turns out, the Amish do vaccinate, and there are children among them who do exhibit symptoms of autism.

Well, wouldn't that be an obvious indicator that the few Amish who apparently DO vaccinate (according to you) are suffering the consequences?

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Ingri Cassel from vaclib forwarded her personal letter to me

Submitted by America Loves R... on Sat, 11/01/2008 - 21:41.

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Here's her letter to Mr. Elmore at WND:

Hi Phil,

In reference to your article, "Don't Buy the Vaccine-Autism Myth", posted at http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=79420
I am astounded that you have shut your eyes to exactly "who" is behind the studies you refer to as proving vaccine safety and a lack of association to autism. My question to you is -- do you have children that have received every vaccine that is now recomended by the CDC and ACIP? Please spend some more time researching this topic in depth.

Yes, I agree that it is not ALL about vaccines, given that not ALL children are on the autism spectrum of dysfunction today. Mercury fillings off-gassing by the mom-to-be while the baby is developing inside her as well as increased aspartame consumption, and other excitotoxins in the food (drug) chain are certainly factors in the subsequent development of autism (see http://www.russellblaylockmd.com/ , http://www.aapsonline.org/ and http://www.medicalveritas.com/ )

How can you discount the personal experiences of thousands of mothers who are intimately connected to their offspring? These parents can't be totally wrong regarding their claims that their child slipped into autism soon after the MMR vaccine. Coincidence? Hardly, when it is difficult to find the same percentage of autistic children among the unvaccinated (see http://www.vaclib.org/basic/unvaxhealth.htm )

Rather than just trusting experts' opinions about various studies allegedly proving a lack of association between the MMR vaccine and the mercury-based preservative thimerosal and ASD, you may want to look directly at the studies themselves, who is funding these studies and ask yourself if there is a possible design flaw in each study to prove their premise that there is no association between vaccines and ASD.
See http://www.vacinfo.org/researchers.htm

And if you are at all curious as to why more and more parents are making an educated and rational choice to opt out of this state sanctioned religion called vaccination, you may want to take a peek at the articles in our Vaccination 101 online course below -

To begin your journey on learning more about vaccines, the biomedical paradigm and why the only truly informed choice regarding vaccines is complete avoidance and refusal, we offer you the following weblinks to well-footnoted articles and resources.

The Case Against Immunizations by Richard Moskowitz, MD, homeopath
http://www.vaclib.org/basic/caseagainst.htm

Anaphylactic children - canaries in the public health mine shaft? Are vaccines responsible for the epidemic of anaphylaxis in young children today? by Rita Hoffman
http://www.vran.org/vaccines/anaphylaxis/ana-vac.htm

What Is Coming Through That Needle? The Problem of Pathogenic Vaccine Contamination by Benjamin McRearden
http://www.industryinet.com/~ruby/vac_coming_thru.html

Vaccines: How Deadly Are They? by Ingri Cassel
http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20060801.htm

Antibodies/titers and Immunity: Are They Related? by Vaccination Liberation
http://www.vaclib.org/basic/titers-immunity.htm

Vaccination and the Making of Mass Mind by Walene James, founder of Vaccination Liberation
http://www.vaclib.org/basic/massmind.htm

Why the compulsory vaccination laws must be repealed NOW by Dewey Duffel and Ingri Cassel
http://www.vaclib.org/legal/whycompulsory.htm

See also the "bellcurve" illustration/analogy that is posted here --
http://www.vaclib.org/basic/bellcurve.htm

For those who want to see a list of medical journal citations, here is a great link --
http://www.vaccine911.com/vacreference.pdf

And if you want to know what is really in those vaccines, we can only imagine what these ingredients may do to an infant whose body organs are all "premature" (still developing).
What is even more amazing is that toxicological tests have never been performed on the vaccines themselves, and no trials prior to licensing have ever been performed on newborns... and yet hepatitis B vaccines are routinely administered soon after birth.
http://www.vaclib.org/basic/vacingredient.htm

We also have a full education on this topic in our membership packet which includes the excellent book by Jamie Murphy, What Every Parent Should Know About Childhood Immunizations.
http://www.vaclib.org/basic/memberindex.htm

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We also have great information on our smallpox and polio indexes here -
http://www.vaclib.org/basic/polio.htm Polio index
http://www.vaclib.org/basic/smallpoxindex.htm Smallpox Index

Also, here is a link to the health of the unvaccinated versus the vaccinated -
http://www.vaclib.org/indexdoc.htm#health

You should also know about ultrasounds routinely given...
http://www.vaclib.org/basic/ultrasound.htm

And the vitamin K "shot" given at birth -- the FDA's website even has a death warning on this vitamin given intravenously...
http://www.vaclib.org/basic/vitamin-k.htm

Phil, considering my background and experience with this topic, I can tell you with 100 percent certainty that you have not independently researched both sides of this issue. If you had--and your conclusions were indeed independently derived as a product of your own application of facts to outcomes--you would not be promoting the government and industry-backed claim that vaccines are not linked to autism. You, instead, would understand the opposite to be true. With that in mind, your opinion here is unqualified journalistically and the fact that you and WND published your unqualified opinion on this critical matter is irresponsible to a degree that borders on criminal.

Please review the links above and follow them to wherever your instincts, passion (compassion) leads you. If you have any questions, we are here to answer them all--provided you are willing to retract any statements you have made in error and replace them with facts as supported in the medical literature and the experiences of millions that have been maimed and murdered by vaccines.

In the Spirit of Truth,

Ingri Cassel, director
Vaccination Liberation
P.O. Box 457
Spirit Lake, Idaho 83869
(208) 255-2307 / (888) 249-1421
vaclib@coldreams.com

www.VaccineTruth.com
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Free Your Mind....
>From the Vaccine Paradigm

"When we give government the power
to make medical decisions for us, we,
in essence, accept that the state owns
our bodies"
~U.S. Representative Ron Paul, MD

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Letter-to-editor in response to iggnernt column at WND

Submitted by America Loves R... on Fri, 10/31/2008 - 21:59.

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Did everyone see the response-letter to the diatribe ?

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=40

"DO YOUR HOMEWORK ON VACCINES"

In response to Phil Elmore's column on vaccines: I am the parent of seven children, ages 16 to 3. I have not vaccinated my kids since 1995, when I did my homework and made the decision that not vaccinating was in their best interests. Since that time, more vaccines have been added to the "recommended" (i.e., required to attend school) schedule so that the number of vaccines to attend public school now numbers at least 22 before the age of 5.

Anecdotally, my kids are all very healthy. Granted, it could be due to good genetics, but none of my kids have ever had an ear infection, rarely get a cold, are intelligent, and have no behavior problems. Moreover, I have serious concerns about what the long-term effects are in introducing that many different chemicals and compounds into rapidly developing bodies. There have been no long-term studies about the mixes of vaccines being introduced. Could these vaccines produce cancers or tumors or auto-immune diseases when they are adult? Is this better than living through a childhood disease, where once the child acquires and recovers from that disease he develops a life-long immunity?

Mr. Elmore states that these childhood diseases "will kill your child." This is an incorrect statement, because if it "will kill" – no one would be left. These diseases can kill a child, but with today's technology of infection control and supporting care, survival rates are greater than in the past.

Today's vaccine industry is all about guilting and scaring parents into signing the "informed consent" for the vaccine, when it's not really about making an informed decision, but about blackmailing them into signing their kids' future health away so they can go to school. So, do the research and make a truly informed decision. Don't be scared by those advocating for or against vaccines based on autism or other possible effects. Be the parent and advocate for your kids!

A.R.H.

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QUESTION

Submitted by dfwrider on Fri, 10/31/2008 - 17:11.

Are there any partisan lines when it comes to mandatory vaccines?

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Not Really....

Submitted by America Loves R... on Fri, 10/31/2008 - 18:19.

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You will find the health-hippies AND the Christian home-schoolers many times in the same camp on this issue.

Who wooda thunk?

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I'm just not totally sold on the anti-vaccines thing

Submitted by ShannonOBrien on Fri, 10/31/2008 - 15:59.

I did read that after they took the thimerisol out of certain vaccines in 2001 that autism rates dropped by 30% and that changed my mind. But nobody has really given me any real hard statistics from an objective source. I don't trust evidence from the pharmaceutical companies but I don't trust evidence from an anti-vaccines website either.
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You must ask yourself this question.

Submitted by veeew on Fri, 11/07/2008 - 21:37.

Who stands to gain from either side? What is the real truth of the matter? Clearly the pharmaceutical cabal stands to gain huge profits by peddling off countless new vaccines. What do the anti-vaccine people have to gain? Nothing really, at least not monetarily, but we do it because we believe strongly and want to help other people. The evidence is overwhelmingly against vaccines as being any type of safe or effective to any rational person looking at the information. To say that you refuse to trust either side is almost like the misnomer of Republican vs. Democrat and that there is no real truth, just "opposing sides". I can tell you there is real truth in this matter and it demonstrates that vaccines are not safe, not effective, not the "responsible" thing to do, not scientifically-based, and not needed. I would research the above links as that pretty much gives a great starting point to learning about why vaccines are not safe and effective based on their ingredients, their effects within the tissue and upon the immune system, the evidence linking many modern disorders with vaccines, etc. It is all there and being documented daily. Again, who stands to gain and who stands to lose? Why would we fight so heavily against vaccines if it were all a lie? It is not "conspiracy theory", but it is probably legitimate conspiracy by drug companies and their indoctrinated minions (conventional doctors).

Shannon....

Submitted by America Loves R... on Fri, 10/31/2008 - 16:50.

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Here are some resources you may appreciate.

BY DR. SHERRI TENPENNY:

Dr. Sherri Tenpenny on Polio - 1 of 4

Dr. Sherri Tenpenny on Polio - 2 of 4

Dr. Sherri Tenpenny on Polio - 3 of 4

Dr. Sherri Tenpenny on Polio - 4 of 4

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Many knew even a century-or-so ago that vaccination was completely evil.

Here, reproduced in .pdf format, is a book written in 1920 !!!!!!

HORRORS OF VACCINATION EXPOSED
AND ILLUSTRATED: PETITION TO THE PRESIDENT
TO ABOLISH COMPULSORY VACCINATION IN THE ARMY AND NAVY

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Vaccination quotes:

Vaccination Quotes.

"My suspicion, which is shared by others in my profession, is that the nearly 10,000 SIDS deaths that occur in the United States each year are related to one or more of the vaccines that are routinely given children. The pertussis vaccine is the most likely villain, but it could also be one or more of the others." --Dr. Mendelsohn, M.D.

"The evidence for indicting immunisations for SIDS is circumstantial, but compelling. However, the keepers of the keys to medical-research funds are not interested in researching this very important lead to the cause of an ongoing, and possibly preventable, tragedy. Anything that implies that immunisations are not the greatest medical advance in the history of public health is ignored or ridiculed. Can you imagine the economic and political import of discovering that immunisations are killing thousands of babies?" --Dr. Douglass M.D.

"Only after realising that routine immunisations were dangerous did I achieve a substantial drop in infant death rates. The worst vaccine of all is the whooping cough vaccine... it is responsible for a lot of deaths and for a lot of infants suffering irreversible brain damage. In susceptible infants, it knocks their immune systems about, leading to irreparable brain damage, or severe attacks or even deaths from diseases like pneumonia or gastro-enteritis and so on." --Dr. Kalokerinos, M.D.

"Delay of DPT immunisation until 2 years of age in Japan has resulted in a dramatic decline in adverse side effects. In the period of 1970-1974, when DPT vaccination was begun at 3 to 5 months of age, the Japanese national compensation system paid out claims for 57 permanent severe damage vaccine cases, and 37 deaths. During the ensuing six year period 1975-1980, when DPT injections were delayed to 24 months of age, severe reactions from the vaccine were reduced to a total of eight with three deaths. This represents an 85 to 90 percent reduction in severe cases of damage and death." --Raymond Obomsawin, M.D.

"Autism may be a disorder linked to the disruption of the G-alpha protein, affecting retinoid receptors in the brain. A study of sixty autistic children suggests that autism may be caused by inserting a G-alpha protein defect, the pertussis toxin found in the D.P.T. vaccine, into genetically at-risk children." --Mary N. Megson, M.D.

"This report describes six mothers who received live virus vaccines and one who received a Hepatitis B vaccine during pregnancy after having received an MMR booster five months prior to conception. All the children who resulted from these pregnancies have had developmental problems, six out seven (85%) were diagnosed with autism, and the seventh seems to exhibit symptoms often associated with autistic spectrum disorders." --F. EdwardYazbak, MD

"Every day new parents are ringing us. They all have the same tragic story. Healthy baby, child, teenager, usually a boy, given the DPT (diphtheria, pertussis and tetanus) or DT (diphtheria and tetanus), MMR or MMR booster followed by a sudden fall or slow, but steady decline into autism or other spectrums disorder."--The Hope Project (Ireland)

"There is no evidence whatsoever of the ability of vaccines to prevent any diseases. To the contrary, there is a great wealth of evidence that they cause serious side effects." -- Dr. Viera Scheibner

"My data proves that the studies used to support immunisation are so flawed that it is impossible to say if immunisation provides a net benefit to anyone or to society in general. This question can only be determined by proper studies which have never been performed. The flaw of previous studies is that there was no long term follow up and chronic toxicity was not looked at. The American Society of Microbiology has promoted my research...and thus acknowledges the need for proper studies." --John B.Classen, M.D., M.B.A.

"The medical authorities keep lying. Vaccination has been a disaster on the immune system. It actually causes a lot of illnesses. We are changing our genetic code through vaccination." --Guylaine Lanctot M.D. Canadian author of the best-seller 'Medical Mafia'.

Jonas Salk, inventor of the IPV, testified before a Senate subcommittee that nearly all polio outbreaks since 1961 were caused by the oral polio vaccine.

"Crib death" was so infrequent in the pre-vaccination era that it was not even mentioned in the statistics, but it started to climb in the 1950s with the spread of mass vaccination against diseases of childhood. --Harris L.Coulter, PhD.

"These data show that DPT vaccination may be a generally unrecognised major cause of sudden infant and early childhood death, and that the risks of immunisation may outweigh its potential benefits. A need for re-evaluation and possible modification of current vaccination procedures is indicated by this study." --William C. Torch, M.D., Director of Child Neurology, Department of Paediatrics, University of Nevada School of Medicine

"You cannot be in the presence of a profoundly vaccine damaged child and not know that child could be your own. And you cannot try to comfort a mother who has just buried a baby who has died from a vaccine or a disease and not know that you could be the one standing over the grave. When it happens to your child, the risks are 100 percent." -Anonymous

"Vaccination is not necessary, not useful, does not protect. There are twice as many casualties from vaccination as from AIDS." --Dr. Gerhard Buchwald, West Germany, specialist of internal diseases and participant in about 150 trials of vaccination victims.

Dr. Michael Odent has written a letter in the JAMA (1994) where his figures show a five times higher rate of asthma in pertussis immunised children compared to non-immunised children. He is also quoted in the International Vaccination Newsletter (Sept. 1994): "Immunised children have more ear infections and spend more days in hospital."

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Thanks for the info!

Submitted by ShannonOBrien on Sat, 11/01/2008 - 14:12.

I've almost watched/read it all. I have some thinking to do.
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Here they go again

Submitted by Fedor on Fri, 10/31/2008 - 08:25.

I really wish I could meet this guy and share the stories several parents shared with me. Their children becoming sick right after vaccines. The doctors tagging them with autism. This is real and people like me are seeing it. Not just hearing about it.

But see.....

Submitted by America Loves R... on Fri, 10/31/2008 - 14:58.

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.........if these incidents don't happen in Merck's or Bayer's laboratories, then they aren't considered "scientific".

They are just a bunch of "anecdotes" by a huge collection of crack-pot parents who have unfounded "conspiracy theories"

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This is exactly right.

Submitted by veeew on Fri, 11/07/2008 - 21:46.

You pretty much summed it all up in one sentence. The "scientific studies" being performed are all by the drug companies themselves! Which are then endorsed by all our corrupt government agencies (CDC, FDA). There is no independent panel investigating these things, they are controlled safety "studies" performed by the very companies who stands to lose countless millions if the product they have been researching and creating for years is determined unsafe. It is a HUGE conflict of interest and yet it continues to be accepted by the sheep of this country as fact. When will people wake up? It is amazing that the mothers and families are considered crazy for their real life studies and investigation into the effects of vaccines on their loved ones and the PR propaganda coming from "public health experts" is considered to be the trusted source. Drug companies and the agencies that are supposed to be ensuring our safety are one and the same - the FDA and CDC have been infiltrated by the same people that work for the drug companies! Why would you trust ANYTHING they have to say?