If you home school, is it required to report to state?
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Obviously, each state is different regarding home school requirements - but I was wondering about the option of home schooling my kids, but not even reporting to my state.
Now, I'm not saying that's what I'm going to do (so all you trolls/spooks out there don't get all excited) - but I was just wondering what others here thought about this situation.
It just seems that we are headed - VERY soon - into a climate where we have to hide kids and others from the authorities as a result of MANDATORY bird flu or small pox vaccines.
If some of you think I'm being paranoid, take a look at these OFFICIAL state and federal policies:
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The Model State Emergency Health Powers Act
While we were asleep, 39 states have passed this draconian legislation.
Can you say "FORCED VACCINATION" ?????
Check out some of the goodies:
The Model State Emergency Health Powers Act
Section 604 Isolation and quarantine.
(a) Authorization. During the public health emergency, the public health authority may isolate (consistent with the definition of “isolation” in Section 103(h)) or quarantine (consistent with the definition of quarantine in Section 103(o)) an individual or groups of individuals. This includes individuals or groups who have not been vaccinated, treated, tested, or examined pursuant to Sections 602 and 603. The public health authority may also establish and maintain places of isolation and quarantine, and set rules and make orders. Failure to obey these rules, orders, or provisions shall constitute a misdemeanor.
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Social Security Numbers WILL be used to track kids for vaccination status:
From the following article:
by BY BARBARA LOE FISHER of the National vaccine Information Center
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The National (and International) Vaccine Plan Takes Shape
In 1994, the Department of Health and Human Services published The National Vaccine Plan, which is a strategic plan for vaccinating every American child with all existing and future government-recommended vaccines and for positioning the US mass vaccination program within the context of a global mass vaccination program. The Plan emphasizes that the US is a co-sponsor of the Children's Vaccine Initiative (CVI) launched at the World Summit for Children in 1990 in New York City to vaccinate all the world's children with existing and future vaccines developed by drug companies. In addition to the vaccine manufacturers, funding for CVI is provided by the United Nation's Children's Fund (UNICEF), the United Nation's Development Program (UNDP), the Rockefeller Foundation, the World Bank and the World Health Organization (WHO).
Shalala Appropriates Social Security Numbers
On March 9, 1995, Shalala published a notice in the Federal Register of the intent to establish a new routine use of the Social Security number. This permits the Social Security Administration to disclose the Social Security number of a newborn to state health department officials for public health programs including, but not limited to, establishing public immunization registries with the goal of operating a national network of coordinated statewide immunization registries. The new routine use of the Social Security number permits HHS to disclose information about individuals without their consent if it is for the purpose of administering a government public health program or for conducting medical research.
Interesting!
So, it's unacceptable to use SS #s to weed out illegal aliens, but perfectly ok to use them to track our children in order to force us to submit them for vaccinations?? What's wrong with this picture??
This is why.
Its NOT required for an American to have a SSN. Any American who does not have a SSN number is not considered a US citizen but instead considered a State Citizen. Completely different lifestyle baring in mind that you receive no benefits from the state but also no burdens. The only "police" that have jurisdiction over you are sheriffs.
I'm looking to get rid of my SSN and revert back to State Citizenship. I can say bye bye to income, property, and any other unconstitutional taxes as well as fees like paying tolls and vehicle registration. Oh btw, you dont need license plates either!
I reserve the right to govern myself.
I reserve the right to govern myself.
Woah more info please
Is this possible? I know Michael Badnarik talked about the registration thing but can you really get out of state and property taxes? If you own your land allodial title then are you actually able to avoid paying property taxes?
"Greater than the force of mighty armies is the power of an idea whose time has come"
- Victor Hugo
"Greater than the force of mighty armies is the power of an idea whose time has come"
- Victor Hugo
Do you have links to back this up?
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I'm not at all denying what you say - I'd just like to see the legal foundation for these claims.
Not that there's any legal foundation in this nation any longer.
We have total chaos.
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Almost every state has exemptions for immunizations requirements
In my state, whether they go to school or not, there is a religious exemption, and the state are NOT allowed to question your religious feelings on it.
Yes, but my kids won't be vaccinated...
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.....nor will we ever have to fill out an exemption form.
It is true that the exemption forms exist, but that's only if you have SS#s for your babies AND if you are foolish enough to send them to public brainwashing centers.
I think the key is having them OFF the radar from the beginning - as much as possible - so these ridiculous hoops won't have to be jumped-through.
Do the 'hoops' exist if we don't recognize them?
I guess that question can only be answered by each parent/family.
EVEN if we ATTEMPT to follow all their absurd rules/laws/dictates, we are STILL going to become slaves.
In fact, I'm starting to believe that the more we jump through their hoops, the more power and legitimacy we give them.
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Yes, exactly! Don't sign up for any exemption,
as they are exemptions anyway.. I don't sign up for permission to homeschool, nor sign up for exemptions. Live as if you have these rights, as we do, given by God.
Yes
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...and the more I think about it, the signing of an exemption-form (although that's better than being vaccinated) is almost like an admission-of-guilt and legitimizes their tyrannical laws of so-called "mandatory"-vaccination.
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Word of Warning
Home school veteran and actually a pioneer, we are told, because of having done this in Canada, where we lived when the children were of school age.
Here is my warning. Flying under the radar is much easier if your children never set foot in a school. Then there is no record of your children in the system. There are laws and there are school district "interpretations" of those laws. Even if you are in a "friendly" state or province, once create a school system record for your child and you open yourself to scrutiny, whether the law says they have any business in your affairs or not.
Best of luck.
Mine did not set foot in a public institution until they were
old enough for college. I raised mine in Texas and never reported a single thing to the state. Others have posted the link to the Home School legal defense fund. Follow it. It's a good one.
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Here's a link.
You should be able to find the information you need on here.
http://www.hslda.org/Default.asp?bhcp=1
In Indiana no.
Go to the web site of the home school legal defense fund and they list requirements of each state.
florida sucks
...very restrictive, especially on accounting.
we have our kids in private montessori school. but with the economy the way it is, we may have to reconsider which saddens me.
I'm in FL also
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So what can they do if they catch you schooling your kids without reporting to the king?
Do they confiscate your first-born?
Do I need to put blood atop my door so the angel of death will passover my house? (Believe me - I'm not poking fun at Passover....we are witnessing this portion of history repeat itself)
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You need
to check the laws in your state, go to www.hslda.org. Some states like Texas, have more freedom than others. Pennsylvania has some of the most restrictive in the country.
You can also fly under the
You can also fly under the radar if you believe the government has no authority over your children's education, despite what your state laws say.
Yes, that's the route I'm considering
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There are so many oppressive laws on the books that we can't possibly know them all anyhow.
We will soon have a "Diary of Anne Frank" climate in this nation (I fear) of which we will have to work under the radar in many regards in order to survive.
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I homeschool in Indiana. The
I homeschool in Indiana. The only law in Indiana is that you have 180 days of school. You don't even have to register your homeschool. I never did. The freedom in Indiana is sweet. :) (thus far!)
Do you know why it's so easy in Indiana??
It's because there are several in the legislature who, themselves, are homeschooling parents. It's true!
I took my children out of public school in 1984
and went thru a satellite school, Christian Liberty Academy in Arlington, Illinois. They get ALL the child's school records (the original copies) from the public school transferred to them. Christian Liberty Academy is very libertarian, and is where we learned of the Constitution, and Austrian economy theories, and much of what we talk of on Daily Paul. They send tests and keep records. I only stayed with them for a year, and then went on to homeschool by myself, and when I did, they sent all of those records to me. So, I have all my children's homeschool and public school records. This worked out great, as now no govt. authority knows anything about my children's schooling. I have never registered with any authority, as I have religious beliefs that I am not under their authority but under God alone . In some states, that is enough, but in some, one would have to pay a fine, (in my state, if caught, I would have to pay not less than 5 dollars and not more than 25 dollars for each child.) But they do not know about them, so that is unlikely. If someone is worried, and wants to take their children out of school, tell them you are moving to Illinois, and sign up for Christian Liberty Academy, and they will believe you. By the way, Christian Liberty Academy, when signing up will teach you all your rights and what to do to keep yourself from getting into trouble.
Is this link the same CLA you did for your kids?
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Yes, that is the one
Pro Constitution, pro liberty, etc.
My wife is now researching this site
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All I have to say is: Florida Schmlorida.
Who can POSSIBLY abide by all the laws on the books anyhow?
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As an added insurance, you could sign up for
Home school legal defense, I don't think they have ever lost a case. They will defend you and deal with any authority hassling you. Very inexpensive too. http://www.hslda.org/Default.asp?bhcp=1
That's EXCELLENT info......
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So you say they do NOT share info with the state?
But I suppose it's also possible that the state could approach these organizations and demand they turn over records in the event of a pandemic or some other contrived event.
In any event, I will check into Christian Liberty Academy.
Thanks for that tip.
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I would doubt very much that they would
share any information. Like I said, they are very big on liberty, and standing up for one's constitutional rights. This is where we first heard of all of our individual rights, and my two children who were enrolled learned the Constitution backwards and forwards, along with the history of it.
I am in Texas
and I also used Christian Liberty Ac. my first year and was a member of Homeschool Legal Defense my entire homeschooling years. Absolutely worth it when I was homeschooling. It was very unpopular. Had some friends who were groundbreakers and went to court for homeschooling. Was the BEST decision I ever made for my kids. So glad I did it. Dr. Paul even gave my younger sons commencement speech in 1996.
for our state
Parents (or guardians) may educate their child at home by electing not to meet State approval or accreditation requirements (Section 79-1601 R.R.S.). In Nebraska, "home schools" are referred to as exempt schools and are considered non-approved or non-accredited schools. By filing for and receiving exempt status, parents are electing not to have their child attend a school that meets State approval and accreditation requirements while also complying with the compulsory school attendance law (Section 79-201 R.R.S.).
this bill hasnt passed yet--LB 1141 would require homeschoolers to do mandatory annual standardized testing-if your child does not place at the 50% or higher they would have to be enrolled in an accredited school
BUT...there is an alternative for new parents on the birth certificate
it is called something else, I dont recall the exact word it was called
ex-birth statement or something like that
and forget the ss#--dont file for it
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EXECUTIVE ORDER 13295 - Forced Quarantine
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EXECUTIVE ORDER 13295: REVISED LIST OF QUARANTINABLE COMMUNICABLE DISEASES
Excerpt:
Section 1. Based upon the recommendation of the Secretary of Health and Human Services (the "Secretary"), in consultation with the Surgeon General, and for the purpose of specifying certain communicable diseases for regulations providing for the apprehension, detention, or conditional release of individuals to prevent the introduction, transmission, or spread of suspected communicable diseases..........
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But look at the AMENDMENT to this Executive Order which came out in 2005:
Executive Order: Amendment to E.O. 13295 Relating to Certain Influenza Viruses and Quarantinable Communicable Diseases
Excerpt:
Section 1. Based upon the recommendation of the Secretary of Health and Human Services, in consultation with the Surgeon General, and for the purpose set forth in section 1 of Executive Order 13295 of April 4, 2003, section 1 of such order is amended by adding at the end thereof the following new subsection:
"(c) Influenza caused by novel or reemergent influenza viruses that are causing, or have the potential to cause, a pandemic.".
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