Next Step - Time to take over the Republican Party?

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Takeover Is Currently Going On - but

We need to get over the term takeover. This is not something that will happen easily, all at once. The neocons did not take over suddenly either.

What is true is that our influence is growing. In my county it is substantial, within the party organization. Given a couple more two year elections cycles we could have a very different power balance going into the state convention.

Find your local RLC chapter or C4L group and join in.

I wish Dr Paul was their leader

Dr Paul would do wonders for them and bring respect back to the GOP. This election was a absolute joke for the GOP and they know it. Sometimes I wonder if they did it on purpose because they did'nt want him in the limelight. It's backfired miserably on them, because Dr Paul is on TV a lot and they've been polite to him and letting him talk his talk, because they know he can walk the walk too.

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gop scrambling to find their new voice

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20081105/republican...

GOP in tatters, looks to regroup

WASHINGTON — So much for a lasting Republican majority.

The Republican Party is essentially in tatters, and not that long after President Bush's 2000 election spurred talk of enduring GOP dominance.

John McCain's shellacking, along with recent congressional losses, leaves the party searching for a new leader and identity.

"It's time for the losing to stop. And my commitment to you is that it will," House GOP leader John Boehner of Ohio told his rank and file after the party lost at least 19 congressional seats Tuesday _ on his watch.

Saying the party's image has been tainted by "scandals and broken promises," Sen. Jim DeMint of South Carolina declared: "We have got to clean up, reform and rebuild the Republican Party before we can ask Americans to trust us again." He called for party leaders to "embrace a bold new direction" or hit the road.

Indeed, a leadership fight brewed in the House.

Boehner announced he will seek two more years as Republican leader. But Rep. Adam Putnam of Florida, the No. 3 Republican, was "reluctantly" stepping down from his post. And a GOP official said Virginia Rep. Eric Cantor intends to run for the second-ranking spot now held by Rep. Roy Blunt of Missouri. Whether Blunt intends to seek a new term was not immediately known.

Plenty of Republicans from the conservative to the liberal wings of the party agree the GOP is in shambles as the Bush presidency comes to a close, leaving the party without a titular leader when the president's term ends in January.

Nearly two dozen prominent conservatives planned to meet in Virginia on Thursday to try to chart a path going forward.

To be sure, plenty of prospective White House hopefuls seem to be lining up for 2012.

McCain running mate Sarah Palin has signaled that she will remain on the national political scene. She says: "I'm not doing this for naught." Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who lost the nomination this year, has restarted his political action committee. And, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal is heading to the leadoff caucus state of Iowa on Nov. 22 to deliver the keynote address to a conservative group. Any number of other Republicans may test the waters as well.

Republican National Committee Chairman Mike Duncan said it would be wrong to view the election results as "the death rattle of American conservatism," pointing to a roster of GOP rising stars that includes Palin, Jindal, Cantor and Sen. John Thune of South Dakota.

Republicans, Duncan said, "are going to take a deep breath and listen to the American people." The party is creating a new online forum, called Republican for a Reason, that will allow people to explain "how we let them down" and "what we can do to restore confidence in our party," he said.

Tuesday's electoral losses for the GOP culminate a campaign that took place in an extraordinarily challenging political environment for the party in power amid two lingering wars and a spreading economic crisis. Bush's job approval ratings are at record lows and much of the country is demanding change.

Republicans were severely punished _ for the second straight election.

McCain's loss to Democrat Barack Obama in an Electoral College landslide dramatically reorders the divided political map that's been the norm during the last two elections. Obama won in traditionally Republican states like Indiana and gained ground in just about every demographic group, including the fast-growing Hispanic bloc that Republicans have courted.

In Congress, House Republicans lost at least 19 seats, just two years after losing 30 seats and House control. Democrats now have locked up every seat in the Northeast.

Senate Republicans, for their part, will lose at least five seats, although the GOP blocked a complete Senate rout and thwarted Democratic hopes for a 60-vote majority needed to overcome Republican filibusters.

It's all quite a reversal from just eight years ago, when it was the Democrats in disarray.

In 2001, Bush set up shop in the White House with Republicans firmly in control of both the House and Senate.

His chief strategist, Karl Rove, envisioned building a long-term Republican majority by broadening the party's base in part by building support among women, labor groups and Hispanics.

Two years later, Rove said: "Political parties kill themselves, or are killed, not by the other political party but by their failure to adapt to new circumstances."

That turned out to be true _ for the GOP.

"The party just simply lost its way," said Republican Dick Armey, the former House majority leader from Texas. "It was no longer about small government and individual liberties ... and the party became enormously unattractive to the American people."

Many point to the Iraq war _ and anger over how it was handled _ as just the start of the troubles.

"Try as it might, the party has been unable to get it off its back," said Frank Fahrenkopf, a former Republican National Committee chairman. He also pointed to Hurricane Katrina and a spate of scandals, including the leak of a CIA operative's identity, as kindling that fueled distrust of government and disgust with the GOP.

By 2006, the country issued a double repudiation of Bush and the party, giving Democrats control of both the House and the Senate.

Two year later, the GOP lost the White House in Obama's barrier-breaking election as the first black president.

I think...

...you've flipped your Whig.

Let it die, then rebuild it.

Ron Paul Endorsed Candidates Election Results

Can anyone give the results of those Ron Paul endorsed for Congress and Senate?

Absolutely

But not just the Republican party - the Democrat party too.

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Now we become the leaders,

and fight socialism and welfare and fight for the Constitution, and the Republicans will have no choice but to follow us.

"The Constitution was written not to regulate you in any way, the purpose of the Constitution is to restrain the government." Ron Paul.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdUoq0ihC2U

This is the best time to

This is the best time to infiltrate and overtake the demoralized and decimated GOP. Join up today and kick out the scum and religious extremists who have had their fingers in every part of our government for decades.

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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore

No - take BACK the republican party

would be a better title.
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"We will never give up. We will never give in." - Dr. Ron Paul

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"We will never give up. We will never give in." - Dr. Ron Paul

yes, i stand corrected as

yes, i stand corrected as well

Ron Paul succeeded because

Ron Paul succeeded because he used the Republican party to get on the debates and get his message out to millions of Americans.

The only way we'll succeed is if we use the Republican party as a platform to elect liberty minded people into all political offices around the country.

I also think that we should work hard to get Third Party candidates included in the presidential debates of 2012.

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YES, YES & YES again

i know everyone is feeling completely dejected today, but now is the time for all of us to get our second wind.

the bush/cheney/rove mindset was soundly rejected yesterday. i know that obama/mccain offered no difference & no true choice, but the republicans needed to lose. otherwise, the neocons would have 4 more years of their reign of terror. we'll deal w/the dems in 2012.

ron paul represents the genuine republican ideology & we need a ron paul republican to stand up & become the new voice for the gop & rnc. otherwise, all of the progress dr paul has made will be for naught.

now is OUR time.

Hawkiye

There was no reply button on your comment. but I really enjoyed reading it and agree 100%. I especially loved this part:
It will take another ten to twenty years of education to have a real shot. these people have no clue as long as the game is on and they have gas for the SUV they'll keep voting for Hitler and when they get tired of him they'll vote for Stalin for change. They keep going from a shit sandwich to a vomit sandwich and then back again...

Thanks.

Thanks.

Hmmm I don't know why there is no reply button I can see it when I look. Your the second person who has said that.

Gee and I just thought my arguments were so good none dared challenge them ;-)

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Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. H. L. Mencken

Get Prepared!

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End The Fat
70 pounds lost and counting! Get in shape for the revolution!

Get Prepared!

This is a pipe dream. A few

This is a pipe dream. A few weeks ago I would have agreed with you however I have seen first hand it will not happen.

We made huge gains in Idaho and have nothing to show for it. We got 24% of the vote for Ron Paul, we got a new plank passed at our state convention to abolish the fed and and return to sound currency. And we couldn't get them to even mention it on the campaign trail. We took over several central committees and one region. Yet we still had our neocon incumbent congressmen running. The one who voted for the bailout ( Simpson) won back his seat easily and the one who is more conservative ( Sali) but still an idiot and voted against the bail and looks like he might lose this morning to a democrat for the first time in a decade.

We had a couple of other candidates running for local positions and last time I checked they were losing. I watched the republicans give speeches last night even praising Obama for his historical win as the first black man elected president and acting like everything is just fine.

These people have no clue there is no working with them and the sheeple just vote party line. Unfortunately these people need to feel some severe pain before there is even a chance for real change. Face reality we are surrounded by morons and fools easily manipulated by 5 minute media bytes on TV and radio.. We are a small minority. I don't know why we the few can wake up but the majority cannot.

It will take another ten to twenty years of education to have a real shot. these people have no clue as long as the game is on and they have gas for the SUV they'll keep voting for Hitler and when they get tired of him they'll vote for Stalin for change. They keep going from a shit sandwich to a vomit sandwich and then back again...

It took 20+ years of a few of us patriots out in the fringe to get enough information out to facilitate the Ron Paul revolution. Our only hope is that the crash will accelerate our work for us and wake enough people up that we have a real shot at change. Otherwise I fear for our nation and our children and their children.

Change is coming but no one is going to like it... And the idiot republicans will continue to vote in idiots in pathetic attempts to win back their power despite our best efforts.

Oh and if Ron Paul wants us to rebuild the party why did he tell us to vote any 3rd party and not republican?

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Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. H. L. Mencken

Get Prepared!

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End The Fat
70 pounds lost and counting! Get in shape for the revolution!

Get Prepared!

blah blah blah. what's your

blah blah blah.

what's your point?

rider... do you not have a

rider... do you not have a clue to what is going on?? are you just ignorant or stupid?

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)

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maybe I do, maybe I don't.

maybe I do, maybe I don't. Can he or you at least summarize it for me? Two or three sentences tops?

Listen up dip shit. I was a

Listen up dip shit. I was a precinct captain ran for PCP and was a state delegate to our convention. I gave all I had to the campaign and am broke because of it. I have worked first hand in the Republican party. I am a life long Republican who voted for Ronald Reagan. I am the voice of experience. I outlined much of the work we did within the party to no avail sorry your too dense to figure that out.

There are similar stories across the country, these idiots don't want to be unplugged from the matrix and not enough liberty minded folks can even get off their fat ass to attend a central committee meeting much less change the party.

So what the fuck have you done punk? Maybe you should get some experience trying what the OP advocates before you spout off your armchair BS!

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Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. H. L. Mencken

Get Prepared!

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End The Fat
70 pounds lost and counting! Get in shape for the revolution!

Get Prepared!

Let me summarize your post

Let me summarize your post for you:

It's a pipe dream to take back the Republican Party.

People are idiots, and they'll vote idiots into office.

Ron Paul confused you on the third party, rebuild stuff.

I don't think it's a pipe dream to take back the Republican Party. Yes it will take years. Perhaps a decade or more. While we are teaching people about the constitution, small government, liberty and other things, perhaps we want to include the virtues of patience, and persistence.

As for your comments about people being idiots. I agree. We all are idiots. This is why it takes time. It takes time to fix ignorance.

Your last comment about Ron Paul is just pointless. It's what prompted my blah blah blah retort. I guess you are frustrated and feel the need to lay some of the failure on Ron Paul's feet.

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frustrating

not enough liberty minded folks can even get off their fat ass to attend a central committee meeting much less change the party.

I saw some of this locally. People didn't bother to show up.

I have found that showing up provides a huge boost in my ability to make change. It's working locally for me as the tax hike defeated yesterday. It would be better and more effective if more of us would show up at the events/meetings.

Hawk you are exactly right!

Hawk you are exactly right! and what you are describing is coming! better be prepared to be self sufficient foratleast a 4 year period of time!

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)

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Re:

"Oh and if Ron Paul wants us to rebuild the party why did he tell us to vote any 3rd party and not republican?"

Perhaps because most all of them support foreign entanglements and preemptive wars.

because you are sending a

because you are sending a message to the elites that you are not a brainwashed troll going along with there plan!

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)

Hey McCain-----┌П┐(◣_◢)┌П┐

I agree

It may take ten years but Ron Paul will be remembered as "winning" the GOP election... there are faithful conservatives in the GOP and it only makes sense for us to follow Ron Paul's lead and focus on the GOP.

Good Luck

We don't have ten years.

We don't have ten years. There will be nothing left of America in ten years.

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Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. H. L. Mencken

Get Prepared!

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End The Fat
70 pounds lost and counting! Get in shape for the revolution!

Get Prepared!

Calm Down

Unless,and even if, they drop a nuke on us the world will continue to turn. What we have in ten years depends on how we begin now. There is no substitute for major party structure and recognition. The only way I know of to win in politics is to squeeze enough flesh and kiss enough ass to get enough people to go to the meetings and vote your way. Yeah, it sucks. Yeah, it takes years to get elected dog catcher. But, aside from armed insurrection and declaring yourself dictator, I don't see any better opportunity. The Plumber

The Plumber

GOP is our home

There is no other choice. Americans will not vote for 3rd party candidates. The Democrats are too interested in closing down talk radio and confiscating 401(k)plans to care about liberty. (I don't even hear Dems talking about repealing the Patriot Act.)

Choice???

Where have you been? Neither party cares about liberty. Neither party is talking about repealing the Patriot Act. Both parties are holding up the system taking the 401(k) plans. It is a very basic concept:

There are not two parties!!

They are two false wings of one party, with one philosophy and one agenda using these little fake battles to con people. Have you noticed every candidate for both parties (except Dr. Paul) constantly talks about "unity" and "being bipartisan"? Of course they are - they are working together no matter what. In public they are fake right/left, but then they get together to have dinner together at the Council on Foreign Relations dining room and figure out how to finish the job of destroying the Constitution.

Go ahead and try - ask Goldwater and Reagan and Buchanan and Ron Paul how that worked out.

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"We are the inheritors of the American Enlightenment, which tells us that Individual Liberty always trumps collectivism in all forms."

The choice is clear!

Its the Dems (NOT THE REPUBLICANS) that are talking about confiscating 401(k)plans, its the Dems (NOT THE REPUBLICANS) that are talking about ending opposition radio by reinstating the "Fairness Doctrine", its the Dems (NOT THE REPUBLICANS) that want to socialize medicine, its the Dems (NOT THE REPUBLICANS) that overwhelming supported the bank bailout, its the Dems (NOT THE REPUBLICANS) that are talking about raising taxes to punish people for working hard and succeeding, and its the REPUBLICANS (NOT THE DEMS) that gave support and their nomination to Reagan and Goldwater. I challenge you to name 2 nominees of the Democrat party in recent history that can hold a candle to Goldwater and Reagan. I challenge you to name a current Democrat member of Congress that is as good as the REPUBLICAN from Texas Ron Paul. Of course, I realize that the Republican party is far from perfect but its a step better than the Democrats.