Must Listen: Ron Paul with Alex Jones 11/5/08
Submitted by Liberty_Belle on Thu, 11/06/2008 - 19:29
Wow- some very sobering comments from Ron Paul.
Part 1
Part 2 below:
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If the republic is EVER restored,RP and AJ are the 2 main reason
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A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.
Ayn Rand said
Donahue, "Religion, or the God concept or faith or worship has people thinking of life as a vale of tears through which you will probably not get without falling. You are essentially an evil person who is bent towards evil."
"That's right. Most religions will preach just that."
"You don't believe that?"
"God, no."
Donahue said, "We are here and we should celebrate it, use it, enjoy it, be selfish and there is a virtue in being selfish. We got ourselves in trouble when we started using government to force us to be good, because we had this notion that we had a sort of bad nature."
"Right. And if we have a bad nature, we have no self esteem. If we have no self esteem, any demagogue can have us. He can order us about because we wouldn't consider ourselves valuable enough to be free. You would be anxious to follow anyone because you don't trust yourself."
True, but no one agrees 100%
Ron Paul is religious, but that didn't stop him from reading and supporting the majority of what Ayn Rand wrote. Objectivism is basically a subset of atheist libertarians. You can be a religious libertarian and appreciate what Rand was writing about. Atlas Shrugged says very little about religion but a lot about the abuses of the state.
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Bcfast, Vigilance and brotherhood will get us through this.
Thanks for sharing your story. I love to hear peoples stories and how the paradigms shifts accur in each of us. It truly inspires me. Twelve or thirteen years ago I began researching the NWO and the law. I felt a great sense of fear, doom and depression. After a while, I came to terms with the fact this country was in great danger and the enemy was acting in stealth against us and from within our government. Then the day came when my fear became anger which I use to drive me to action in a positive way.
I too had just about lost all hope until I heard Ron Paul introduce himself as the "Champion of the Constitution". My job dropped. As I heard him take the Neo-Cons to task and gave them an education in political discourse I realized I was listening to a great American patriot.
The sleeping lion has woken and rest assured, we will take our country back!
I salute you sir.
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“Liberty without learning is always in peril... and learning without liberty is always in vain”
- John Fitzgerald Kennedy
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"The greatest mystery of all is truth." - Me, 2009
An article to go w the video
I'm not sure if this is a trusted site but it goes through many of the details in the video http://www.moneymorning.com/2008/10/24/bretton-woods/
I sent it out on my church's blog with a link to the videos. Alex Jones can give a bad impression but he really says A LOT of truth.
I am on Alex Jones right now. I'm the last caller.. Check it out
http://www.infowars.com/stream.pls
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“Liberty without learning is always in peril... and learning without liberty is always in vain”
- John Fitzgerald Kennedy
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"The greatest mystery of all is truth." - Me, 2009
Emotions and Words Matter
To expand on what I said below and others have responded to I put together these thoughts.
It is a law of nature that our thoughts and feelings are encouraged and strengthened as we give them utterance. While words express thoughts, it is also true that thoughts follow words.
Emotions are molecules.
From the book “Molecules of Emotion” by Candace Pert, Ph.D. we receive the following insight “Neuropeptides and their receptors join the brain, glands, and immune system in a network of communication between brain and body, probably representing the biochemical substrate of emotion” (Pert). Years of neuropeptides (which are considered molecules of emotion) working on the receptors of the cells in the brain, endocrine glands, and immune system can change their receptiveness. This altered receptivity can damage the cell thus injuring health. Resolving and understanding deep-seated long-held emotions such as anger, grief, insecurity, etc. can release them and bring healing to the receptors and thus, the cell. In order to resolve these emotions there needs to be spiritual and psychological health. So you understand that these two are very powerful and not to be taken for granted.
Pert, C. (1999). Molecules of Emotion. Touchstone Books
Because emotions are molecules they generate some type of energy. The energy can be negative or positive depending upon the emotion. Someone said that you can walk into a room with a negative, unhappy person and know right away their state of emotion. You feel it and the oppressiveness of it. You don’t even have to look at the person to feel it. It is the same way with positive emotions. I love to be around positive, happy people. It generates the same emotions in me.
Bring that to the difference between Ron Paul and Alex Jones. Individually, listening to Alex Jones makes me feel helpless and afraid and downright depressed. This practically immobilizes me. People don’t want to be around me because this is all I can think about. RP, on the other hand, is realistic and speaks the truth. But, he also generates positive energy through his positive thoughts and words. He motivates me to action because he gives me hope. The Rally of the Republic gave us that type of emotion.
So, individually, my emotions and feelings may not change the state of the world; but collectively I think it can make or break us. That’s why I believe negative emotions can immobilize and positive can energize.
Healthnut4freedom
"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6
Healthnut4freedom
The lip of truth shall be established forever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment...Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are His delight. Prov 12:19,22
Well said. I believe the same
As a therapist I also asked myself, "What makes one person survive a horrible situation and another not?" It is the person's attitude and feeling of hope- their positive thinking. I have witnessed this with my own eyes. I'm curious to see if we all collectively thought positive about one thing what would occur? Positive energy produce positive results, right? We must remember that there is always hope and try not to tune into the negative. Certain people are also more receptive to other people's energy and have to be careful not to take in the negative.
"For with God nothing shall be impossible"
Financial reports confirming the agenda of the Nov. 15 meeting!
This is not just speculation about the world converting to a global currency. Someone I know takes financial reports from corporations all day long and they are all saying that:
"The strengthening of the dollar and the weakening of all the foreign currencies is unprecedented" and they've never seen this happen before.
Something is definitely going on. Strings are being pulled.
I remember how I felt....
...about a year-and-a-half ago, when I first heard of RP, the NWO, the 9/11 truth movement, etc...I felt so small, defeated, beat-up, insignificant, like a deflated balloon...as though the most awful sci-fi movie of armageddon had come to life....then, with RP's messages of optimism and hope..and discovering Mr. Nystrom's site and all you good people here, I was re-invigorated...with a passion for politics that I'd never felt before!! At almost 50, I even went and registered to vote for the first time!!! Halla-friggin-luia!!!
Now, the "election" has come and gone...the worst-case scenerio has unfolded (I guess it could have been worse..we could have Hitlery as VP, but I digress...)...then I listened to RP's discussion with AJ. I have that exact same cringe in the pit of my stomach again. Something wicked this way comes.
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As for me and my home, we will be buying ammo!
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Silence isn't always golden....sometimes it's yellow.
"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." - Patrick Henry
Nov. 15th meeting?
What's this monetary meeting that RP mentioned? Anyone read / seen / heard anything about this, in addition to Dr. Paul's brief mention of it?
Nov. 15th Financial Meeting
I just found out about this meeting scheduled for the 15th to create a New World Currency. If you go to GOOGLE and type in the date and financial meeting, you will come up with a lot of articles.
It's scary!
It's the "world economic summitt" that Bush planned a few weeks
ago. This is something I think we need to make a show at. This is a HUGE meeting, that's why it's just mentioned in passing.
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Atlas Shrugged film?
Has anyone heard if the Atlas Shrugged movie is still going ahead? If so and if it does the book any justice at all it would be an eye opener for those who are still blind to what's really going on.
Angelina Jolie
I heard Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt were interested in the two lead starring roles, but that seems so strange considering she was a UN ambassador for a full year. The UN is completely opposite the philosophy of the book.
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I also heard
that Angelina had become a CFR member recently, which I found to be odd. I don't know if that's true or not, but it would make taking this role even more strange.
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Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms - should be a convenience store, not a government agency!
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she is
Read Atlas Shrugged
Anyone here who hasn't done so yet should give Atlas Shrugged a try, despite socialists objecting that no one should read it. The events depicted in that book are now being played out in our time. Reading the book years ago I noticed things in real life that mirrored the book so precisely, but now the other unimaginable parts seem to be happening.
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I HAVE A NEW IDEA...
Ron Paul people wouldn't normally do this BUT...
Here's a NEW ANGLE OF ATTACK we might consider;
There are numerous books and websites devoted to FREE GOVERNMENT MONEY, GIVEAWAYS and PROGRAMS (Such as author Matthew Lesko writes about).
Since American voters gave a ringing endorsement to Socialism on Nov 4th, and since they consider us a bunch of retards, I propose the following action for the RON PAUL REVOLUTION:
Everyone take as much free government money, freebies and low interest loans as Uncle Sam is offering. GET AS MUCH AS WE CAN in an attempt to BREAK THE IMMORAL SYSTEM which ALLOWS such programs to exist.
Then, CONTACT THE MEDIA; (Newspapers, TV, Radio talk shows, Internet, tell your friends etc) all about your free money.
This will ENRAGE THE PUBLIC about these excesses and it will cause more people to do the same until it becomes obvious how WRONG these TAXPAYER FUNDED programs are.
Or maybe we could tell the government that we want to return these freebies to the public treasury for TAX REFUNDS to we the people who were originally ripped off to pay for these things.
In any case, it WILL make a point about IMMORAL government giveaways.
Since I KNOW in our hearts we don't believe in this kind of thing, it falls under heading of "FIGHTING FIRE WITH FIRE."
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"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul
Hahaha!! Good idea! Fighting
Hahaha!! Good idea! Fighting fire with fire! I'm sure these morons used the free-markets and all that money they earned to fight us average Joes, it would be something if we turned the tables on them!!
While I sincerely hope that both Jones and Paul are wrong
about what's coming, I think there is a great danger in not carefully considering that they may be right. If I tune out this message, I do so at my own peril since I cannot make contingency plans for what I refuse to think about.
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Stunned to hear 50% of Alex's listeners
supported/support Comrade Obama. That is amazing to me. WTF?
With regard to the "think positive", don't be "negative" discussion here, I understand the impact of thought--the Law of Attraction, if you will--that like attracts like, so be careful what you think, etc, etc. My problem with that "law of attraction stuff" is a moral one, i.e., this government created a lie in order to justify its invasion of another country, Afghanistan, and subsequently caused the deaths of our soldiers and the murder of innocent people. So what do I do? Think positively about that and/or pray, but do and say nothing because that would be negative? Where's the balance? I have yet to see or hear in this "law of attraction stuff" any sensible or substantive means of dealing with reality of the fact I cited above and its inherent moral challenge. Any ideas, healthnut4freedom? Seriously.
With regard to Alex, I say "Go, Alex, go!" while you still can! And Ron Paul's comment, "...most Americans are oblivious to what's going on..." sadly sums it up.
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Truth hurts -
Doesn't it?
People would rather hear happy, fun, cuddly, sugar-coated stories instead of the truth. "Noodle salad." Reality is no fun --- SUPERSIZE me! (gross)
(Pssst. People like Ron Paul & Alex Jones tell the disgusting, ugly, unhappy truth. Why do you think no one wants to listen? They want to close their eyes & believe in "Change." And do you really think DR. Ron Paul is so uninformed & unintelligent that he does not know whom to CHOOSE to talk to)???
Obama = O.ne B.ig A.ss M.istake A.merica
No, detractors of 911
No, detractors of 911 truth--usually GOPers or Bob Barr 'Libertarians'--think they should have the right to tell you what topics to post about in this Forum, and to tell us who is or is not a good promoter of our ideas.
"AJ is bad, mmmmmmkay?"
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Perhaps the utter failure in this election
Might tip you off that your rhetoric is not working, and you might try something else. AJ says that we are on the march, they are on the run - but that's completely wrong. To use your rhetoric, the NWO is kicking major Ass, they now have a candidate that has convinced everyone that he is the new Lincoln, (and he probably is) - but remember, Lincoln has a monument, and a cult.
You should study how to get people out of a cult if you want to convince them about the NWO.
PS I voted for Nader
Alex Jones?
Come on guys. People like Alex Jones is why Paul's message is being laughed at. He needs to distance himself from conspiracy theorists. No one can take him serious if he runs with this crew.
Spoken like someone
who has been on this forum for a total of 5 hours and 16 minutes! Go climb back under your rock patrick, people are waking up and you can't stop it.
Those who laugh
the hardest are one of two kinds...those who don't want YOU to listen and so lead you away from the truth or those who can't listen because it would force them to rethink their own paradigms and include truths that seem unpalatable.
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