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Just had to say it ......
After thinking more about it, you all are right and I'm wrong. That's what I get for speaking about something I don't know very much about. I also didn't think about all the hard work other folks did to get the delegates to the convention ... only to see it blow up in their faces. So ....... I'm with you.
How do you think they got to be delegates?
If not for our blood, sweat and tears. (and Money) I worked my ass off getting signatures, worked the polls all day. Don't give me you weren't there.
We were all there, without us you wouldn't have been there. We worked for you to vote for our candidate Ron Paul. He was absent from the RNC convention because they made sure of it. You knew what you were elected to do. Be our voice. You failed.
Our next delegates need to grow a pair, if they are going to pla
Our next delegates need to grow a pair, if they are going to play with the big boys or next time stay on the porch. When I think of the shit Dr. Paul went through for us and our country and these bastards sell him and us out if you flipped for McCain you should NEVER be a delegate again.
"Lead, follow, or get out of the way."
-- Thomas Paine
A Republic, If You Can Keep It
Amen brother!
"We shall have world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent." Statement by Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) member James Warburg to The Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17th, l950
Ron Paul is my President.
Adam Kokesh Delegate Training!!
Now that would have been effective training!
"Thomas Jefferson is rolling in his grave fast enough to be a new source of energy independence."~ samthurston
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"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
I can't believe I am hearing
I can't believe I am hearing people defend those who defected to McCain...is that correct? I mean, I'm not sure I'm even hearing this correctly--maybe I misread it. Do we actually have a movement so brain dead now that people expect to be thanked for betraying Ron Paul?
If you stood for a cause that is wrong, you accomplished far, far less than those who sat and did nothing. You did harm.
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Yea, I think we should all go pick some flowers
and send them a nice bouquet and a thank you note. Let’s get some flowers for Obama while we are at it.
This election showed us just what kind of criminal scumbags we are up against. These people won't blink an eye while breaking party rules, state and federal laws. We are fighting organized crime. This in no time to mend fences it is time to kick some asses.
"We shall have world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent." Statement by Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) member James Warburg to The Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17th, l950
Ron Paul is my President.
Spot on.
I agree--we also need to root out the moles in our Internet movement.
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I for one .............
just say a big thanks to people who have done WHATEVER THEY CAN for the cause of liberty. I appreciated your account of what it was like at the RNC, Michael. It isn't always easy, and I thank anyone what has done one little thing, or given one little minute, or has donated one little dollar ...............
For anyone who criticizes the delegates ...... did YOU do what it takes to become a delegate??!! Did YOU fight in the trenches at the state conventions. and etc and etc. Whatever YOU did, I'm grateful to you, too, for what you did. Let's just appreciate each other, and cheer each other on ... that's how we'll collectively get STRONGER. The strong aren't always strong, and the weak aren't always weak .... remember that.
We helped the delegates a lot in PA
Gathering signatures, handing out literature, working the polls.
That's alot of effort to get someone elected who eventually turned on us.
Good point.
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Rough? Rough? Give me break.
Ha ha...Ron Paul's not so funny now.
We do indeed need to ID and remember the Turncoats. They are fortunate they are not hanging from tree limbs.
"We shall have world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent." Statement by Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) member James Warburg to The Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17th, l950
Ron Paul is my President.
I don't get it. The Neocon
I don't get it. The Neocon GOP Kool-Aid is so deep in here, we need swim fins to snorkel our way through it.
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I have always felt that Lew Rockwell was a
bit rough around the edges and this totally confirms it. I'm trying to be polite.
To anyone who actually got through the process and made it to becoming a delegate, just for that effort, I am proud of you. We each need to find our role to play and sometimes we learn by trial and error.
May we all accomplish what we can and support one another along the way.
LivingTheDream
We need to remember who those turn-coats were and never let
We need to remember who those turn-coats were and never let them be our delegates again.
"Lead, follow, or get out of the way."
-- Thomas Paine
A Republic, If You Can Keep It
Unite Don't Divide
A house divided against itself cannot stand.
It was a lot of sacrifice to be a delegate (I was not a turncoat delegate)
To be a delegate even more as the party machinery was full force on many with dirty tricks. Even using the law and police as tools of harrasment.
Anyone who was a delegate / block captain or volunteer deserves respect for that. We need to come together...
Take your toxic slime and heap it upon the Neo Cons but
Don't screw with a Ron Paul supporter it is very bad karmah.
The Universe Doesn't like it... And has and will continue to respond harshly.
You are commiting one of the 7 worst sins and evils. "Spreading Discord Among the Brethern."
Anyone who supports Ron Paul is my Brother and a Son / Daughter of Liberty..
One Voice, One Vision, One Love ~ Liberty.
Good Thoughts, Good Words , Good Deeds.
That is the Ron Paul rEVOLution Creed.
One Louv. ;-)..
It's makeover time!
The Republican (neocon) Party as we now know it is finished. Ron Paul is invited to CPAC 2009 and John McCain isn't. The neocons are about to get booted out and replaced by us. Ron Paul, as usual, is brilliant in his vision. He knows exactly what he is doing. The Republican Party takeover will give America the change it really needs.
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I hope you are right.
I hope you are right. Because that would be the easy, fun path. I would love to see a return to the dreams of the Reagan era.
It also would be the easiest way to dissolve this movement if--heaven forbid the thought!--elites in charge of the Republican Party were a wee bit dishonest, and wanted to absorb us like the Borg.
"Just throw 'em a few crumbs! They'll be working for us next year."--I can hear Karl Rove saying it right now.
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Absorb us?
They would have to wipe out thoughts of freedom from our minds. How are some wornout neocons going to convince us to forget everything Ron Paul taught us? We would be a weak bunch indeed if that happened. The spirit of freedom flows too strongly in this movement to be overcome by the now dead carcass of the neocon movement.
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No, you don't understand my
No, you don't understand my meaning.
If they absorb us, we are a part of their LARGER WHOLE. Once we've gone into their political Roach Motel, they can throw us away, the same way they threw away the Goldwater and Reagan Revolutions.
And then continue being the same dishonest, corrupt party they've always been, having thoroughly wasted our time (and used us for support and funding).
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We throw THEM out
The neocons can't get the votes needed to stay in the power positions in the Republican Party anymore. We'll be the ones pulling the strings very soon.
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It's not reasonable..
...to criticise any delegates at the convention because all of them were placed in an untenable position by the Paul Campaign. They joined up to support a candidate who, by the time the convention came around, had no campaign to speak of and had taken himself out of the race despite the pledge to carry on, spending every dime contributed for that purpose, till the convention.
Yes, the convention was a fiasco but place the blame where it belongs -on the leadership not the foot soldiers.
Joe Ureneck
COMMIE,PINKO!!!!!
I just wanted to join in with Oruval...
What's the discussion?
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You Turncoat Sympathizer.
If I had a chance to make it there I sure as hell would have stood my ground.
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No one can win this one. You
No one can win this one. You both have legitimate points.
Turncoat sympathizer?
So, it is fine when the campaign and the leaders do not follow through on their promises and by doing so create confusion?
Which alternate universe do you live in? Examine the reasons why *you* were not at the convention instead of putting those that were up against the wall to be shot.
Joe Ureneck
They shouldn't have been
They shouldn't have been there to support a "candidate." They should have been there to support liberty. Perhaps if they had looked at it that way, as leaders instead of followers they might not have folded so easily.
Well..
...that is why they were there...to support a candidate who was AWOL.. That was the problem.
Joe Ureneck
Here's my suggestion................
Move forward. Look forward. Don't cry over spilt milk. This is a new day and there is NO point in rehashing the past. We all have a lot of work to do.
Your "conscience" is the measure of the honesty of your selfishness. ~Richard Bach
~Your perception becomes your reality~
turncoats
As a former Ron Paul delegate whom did not get a chance to go to the national convention, I can tell you that I am not surprised.
Too many people want to be on the "winning team", and nearly at any cost.
As a a RP delegate at the county and state conventions in Washington State, I can attest to the fact that the GOP openly broke the rules; etc, but what I can also share with certainty is that many so-called Ron Paul delegates didn't have their whole heart in the cause of freedom anyway.
I haven't ultimately decided, but it occurs to me that if you're playing a game, and the other side cheats, you can only appeal to the referee.
Except what I have seen is that the refs are helping the cheaters.
It makes no sense to play a game you cannot win.
So I think you the reader already knows what I haven't decided.
However, I want to make perfectly clear that I am *not* encouraging anyone to give up on the cause of liberty.
The inconsistencies are jarring, and I know with all my mind and body exactly which local elections were stolen.
I'm weary. Good luck to you all that still cherish freedom, yet please pick your battles carefully and recognize when there's no way to win. What I wish for anyone to take away from that is not to be defeatist or to give up, but to not waste time on things that the status quo will not *allow* to be changed.
Please focus on the areas where their gaze is not directed on. Take them by surprise.