The GOP is done. As we say in the South, That dog just won't hunt anymore.

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Conservatives Lost More Than An Election
by Chuck Baldwin
November 7, 2008

That Barack Obama trounced John McCain last Tuesday should have surprised no one. In fact, in this column, weeks ago, I stated emphatically that John McCain could no more beat Barack Obama than Bob Dole could beat Bill Clinton. He didn't. (Hence a vote for John McCain was a "wasted" vote, was it not?) I also predicted that Obama would win with an electoral landslide. He did. The real story, however, is not how Barack Obama defeated John McCain. The real story is how John McCain defeated America's conservatives.

For all intents and purposes, conservatism--as a national movement--is completely and thoroughly dead. Barack Obama did not destroy it, however. It was George W. Bush and John McCain who destroyed conservatism in America.

Soon after G.W. Bush was elected, it quickly became obvious he was no conservative. On the contrary, George Bush has forever established himself as a Big-Government, warmongering, internationalist neocon. Making matters worse was the way Bush presented himself as a conservative Christian. In fact, Bush's portrayal of himself as a conservative Christian paved the way for the betrayal and ultimate destruction of conservatism (something I also predicted years ago). And the greatest tragedy of this deception is the way that Christian conservatives so thoroughly (and stupidly) swallowed the whole Bush/McCain neocon agenda.

For example, Bush and his fellow neocons like to categorize and promote themselves as being "pro-life," but they have no hesitation or reservation about killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people in reckless and unconstitutional foreign wars. By the same token, how many unborn babies were saved by six years of all three branches of the federal government being under the control of these "pro-life" neocons? Not one! Ask the more than eight million unborn babies who were killed in their mothers' wombs during the last eight years how "pro-life" George W. Bush and John McCain are.

As a result of this insanely inconsistent and pixilated punditry, millions of Americans now laugh at the very notion of "pro-life" conservatism. Bush and McCain have made a mockery of the very term.

Consider, too, the way Bush and McCain have allowed the international bankers on Wall Street to bilk America's taxpayers out of trillions of dollars. Yes, I know Obama also supported the Wall Street bailout, but it was the Republican Party that controlled the White House for the last eight years and the entire federal government for six out of the last eight years. In fact, the GOP has won seven out of the previous ten Presidential elections. They have controlled Supreme Court appointments for the past thirty-plus years. They have appointed the majority of Treasury secretaries and Federal Reserve chairmen. They have presided over the greatest trade imbalances, the biggest deficits, the biggest spending increases, and now the worst financial disaster since the Great Depression.

Again, the American people look at these so-called "conservatives" and laugh. No wonder such a sizeable majority of voters yawned when John McCain tried to scare them by accusing Barack Obama of being a "big taxer." How can one possibly scare people with a charge like that after the GOP has made a total mockery of fiscal conservatism? That's like trying to scare someone coming out from a swim in the Gulf of Mexico with a squirt gun.

Then there was the pathetic attempt by the National Rifle Association (NRA) to scare gun owners regarding an Obama White House. Remember that John McCain is the same guy that the NRA rightly condemned for proposing his blatantly unconstitutional McCain/Feingold bill. McCain is also the same guy that tried to close down gun shows. He even made a personal campaign appearance for a pro-gun control liberal in the State of Oregon a few short years ago. In fact, the Gun Owners of America (GOA) gave McCain a grade of "F" for his dismal record on Second Amendment issues. Once again, Chicken Little-style paranoia over Barack Obama rang hollow when the alternative was someone as liberal as John McCain.

But the worst calamity of this election was the way conservatives--especially Christian conservatives--surrendered their principles for the sake of political partisanship. The James Dobsons of this country should hang their heads in shame! Not only did they lose an election, they lost their integrity!

In South Carolina, for example, pro-life Christians and conservatives had an opportunity to vote for a principled conservative-constitutionalist for the U.S. Senate. He is pro-life, pro-Second Amendment, and pro-traditional marriage. He believes in securing our borders against illegal immigration. He is against the bailout for the Wall Street banksters. His conservative credentials are unassailable. But the vast majority of Christian conservatives (including those at Bob Jones University) voted for his liberal opponent instead.

The man that the vast majority of Christian conservatives voted for in South Carolina is a Big-Government neocon. He supported the bailout of the Wall Street banksters. He is a rabid supporter of granting amnesty and a pathway to citizenship for illegal aliens. In fact, this man has a conservative rating of only 29% in the current Freedom Index of the New American Magazine.

Why did Christian conservatives support the liberal neocon and not the solid pro-life conservative? Because the conservative ran as a Democrat and the neocon is a Republican. I'm talking about the race between Bob Conley and Lindsey Graham, of course.

Had South Carolina's pastors, Christians, evangelicals, and pro-life conservatives voted for Bob Conley, he would be the new senator-elect from that state. In fact, Bob was so conservative that the Democratic leadership in South Carolina endorsed the Republican, Lindsey Graham! No matter. A majority of evangelical Christians in South Carolina stupidly rejected Bob Conley and voted for Graham.

Across the country, rather than stand on principle, hundreds of thousands of pastors, Christians, and pro-life conservatives capitulated and groveled before John McCain's neocon agenda. In doing so, they forfeited any claim to truth, and they abandoned any and all fidelity to constitutional government. They should rip the stories of Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego out of their Bibles. They should never again tell their children, parishioners, and radio audiences the importance of standing for truth and principle. They have made a mockery of Christian virtue. No wonder a majority of the voting electorate laughs at us Christians. No wonder the GOP crashed and burned last Tuesday.

Again, it wasn't Barack Obama who destroyed conservatism; it was George W. Bush, John McCain, and the millions of evangelical Christians who supported them. And until conservatives find their backbone and their convictions, they deserve to remain a burnt-out, has-been political force. They have no one to blame but themselves.

And since it is unlikely that the Republican Party has enough sense to understand any of this and will, therefore, do little to reestablish genuine conservative principles, it is probably best to just go ahead and bury the scoundrels now and move on to something else. Without a sincere commitment to constitutional government, the GOP has no justifiable reason to ever govern again. Therefore, put a fork in them. They are done. Let a new entity arise from the ashes: one that will stand for something more than just "the lesser of two evils." As we say in the South, That dog just won't hunt anymore.

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Chuck run for President on

Chuck run for President on the republican ticket in 2012... we need to start right now!

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)

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No one who isn't a

No one who isn't a gatekeeper for the elites is ever going to win the GOP nomination.

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A tremendous essay...

Hopefully by garnering more name recognition by running for president, Chuck will be able to sway more and more people to TRUE principle. Every single educator out there is a help. Some cover finance - like Lew Rockwell, or Peter Schiff - some cover philosophy - like Chuck, or G. Edward Griffin - some cover foreign policy - like Justing Raimondo....and then there is Dr. Paul who gets into every aspect. But each and every one has an opportunity every time they write or appear on TV or radio, to turn more people to our side of the argument. Educate, Educate, Educate... so that the social mood will just start using OUR catch phrases and OUR soudbites, even if they don't entirely understand everything. This is what it takes. Bravo!

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I Don't Kow ...

CompUSA went bankrupt a while back.

Tiger Direct bought the name and re-opened a bunch of stores. They seem to be very well patronized.

The difference is in the quality of dealing, the quality and variety of product, and the presentation.

I'm sure though that it took a lot of money from somewhere to pull it off.

Same with the Republican Party. If we manage to gain positions of control within the Party, we will have to find alternative funding from where it comes from now if we are to have a party independent of the New World Order.

Are ordinary Americans willing to put out that kind of money?

I think really that money is our biggest problem.

Maybe we should focus on

Maybe we should focus on building businesses, and helping others in the movement build businesses. Then we'll have more money to help support our movement.

I think the majority of the populations education (or the lack thereof) is our biggest problem. I think money would follow if they knew what we knew.

Some things to think about:
1. Educating people (neighbors, online communities, etc)
2. Producing goods and services (owning/building businesses to make money, to help fund the movement if desired)
3. ??? (add to the list)

Yes,,,,

They are their own worst enemy...

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Good Thoughts, Good Words , Good Deeds.
That is the Ron Paul rEVOLution Creed.

One Louv. ;-)..

Pretty good article by Baldwin. In essence, he blames

conservatives for simply voting party-label candidates rather than examine individual candidates for substance; a trait that is not uncommon.
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It is blind political

It is blind political loyalty. Both parties are guilty of this and both parties are political bullies to anyone who dares to have an opinion outside their current political anthems. It is top down politics at its worst.

You hit it!

You are right on with this analysis. I would add that most of the Christian conservatives are conservative in name only. When push comes to shove, they continue to support any candidate who talks the game, but reject the candidate who displays ture conservative principles based on the US Constitution.

It is all about power and retaining it at all costs. Principles do not matter any more for most people in this country- everything is relative even for the religious types.

The GOP likes to blame

The GOP likes to blame everything on the democrats, which to be honest I often do myself, but this article spells it all out. Both sides of the house need cleaned out. I especially liked this part of the article:

"Consider, too, the way Bush and McCain have allowed the international bankers on Wall Street to bilk America's taxpayers out of trillions of dollars. Yes, I know Obama also supported the Wall Street bailout, but it was the Republican Party that controlled the White House for the last eight years and the entire federal government for six out of the last eight years. In fact, the GOP has won seven out of the previous ten Presidential elections. They have controlled Supreme Court appointments for the past thirty-plus years. They have appointed the majority of Treasury secretaries and Federal Reserve chairmen. They have presided over the greatest trade imbalances, the biggest deficits, the biggest spending increases, and now the worst financial disaster since the Great Depression."

AMEN!

I was listening to Hannity today.

Nothing about "McCain lost because he wasn't a conservative".

Nothing like "our party has lost its way".

Nothing about "we lost because the public was angry about the bailout".

Nothing about "the failed presidency of George W. Bush".

What then? CRAP about Al Franken's election issues. CRAP about ACORN. CRAP about Obama avoiding questions in his Press conference. CRAP about Sarah Palin and 2012, delivered in a manner to plant the seed that a grassroots movement is already wildly pursuing her nomination in four years.

If you think the national GOP is going to listen to us because they threw--er, um, lost---an election, you're crazy.

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I agree 100% with Chuck

I agree 100% with Chuck Baldwin's article. Maybe he should join the Republican Party and run in 2012.

If so, he'd lose.

No one who isn't a gatekeeper for the elites is ever going to win the GOP nomination.

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How in the world can we sue

How in the world can we sue and stifle the government from carrying out these bailouts?

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Telling it like it is. Put a

Telling it like it is. Put a fork in it. The GOP is done.