Gary Johnson is a Multi-Millionaire who self funded his run for Governor. We have a wealthy candidate
quite the oposite of Ron Paul Johnson refused to accept any donations and funded his own run for Governor of New Mexico. I read Johnson is the only Governor in New Mexico's history to hold office for 2 terms. So the guy has the ability to self fund like Stephen Forbes which is a great thing that may help him do things before the money bombs happen. But there is a problem. Johnson is a very honest guy to the extent he admitted to using marijuana and also using cocaine. Ofcourse theres no proof he uses this stuff anymore and he is a known compulsive exerciser & adventurer. Ok even Obama admitted to using cocaine I found out so Johnson shouldnt really have much of a problem. Johnson's big advantage is he has a lot of money. Just what we needed right when we needed it
He was on the 6pm news
in Albuquerque tonight talking about his decision to run for president. Was talking to a relative who lives there when he came on.
I'd say the man doesn't fool around. I'm impressed.
Heard he was on C4L-gotta go check that out.
Sounds good to
me. Johnson for president, works for me.
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We have four years to get his name out....
This is an intellegent, clean cut, pro family, self made man. I like this guy.
Now is the time to JUMP-START the campaigns for 2010 and 2012.
We didn't lose. The ignorant lost. We know what has happened. Personally I think John McCain Has been used as a patsy. To bring about an Obama administration.
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I'd like to know Gary
I'd like to know Gary Johnson's positions on illegal immigration and amnesty before I could support him(I'd want to find out where he stands on other issues as well of course). I did some quick searches, but couldn't find enough info. Is he like Ron Paul: secure borders, secure interior(enforce visa rules)and opposes any form of amnesty?
I could support Johnson, needs to get some youtube vids
I could support Johnson, needs to get some youtube vids on his positions.
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Link for Gary Johnson
I just opened an email from the Campaign for Liberty which states Gary Johnson is considering a run for the white house in 2012. If this works out we have 4 years to build a campaign, and public education regarding his views. Being from New Mexico he was a great Governor, and had no problem saying NO, and Veto.
http://libertymaven.com/2008/11/09/the-next-ron-paul-gary-jo...
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I would say, despite all his
I would say, despite all his other positive qualities, Johnson is hampered by the fact that he is a virtual unknown to anyone other than residents of the state of New Mexico.
The news media will do all it can to keep our candidates unknown. So I agree with Hawkiye; it needs to be someone famous like Ventura.
I would argue, in fact, that a movie star would make a good presidential candidate.
Celebrity is important. That's why Schwarzenegger is governor of California now.
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Johnson is much closer
to Ron Paul than Jesse Ventura (pro-life vs pro-choice, Lutheran like dr. Paul vs atheist) and Johnson also officially endorsed Paul, and Ventura NOT. Not all Ron Paul supporters would vote for Ventura, while most, if not all, will vote for Johnson.
Johnson has a much better record as a fiscal conservative than Ventura. Remember Ventura was still quite like a big govt. gov., and changed some views later. Schwarzenegger changed his views considerably since he is governor. He is NO fiscal conservative anymore (used to quote Milton Friedman) and also no social conservative and endorsed McCain.
Dr. Paul was also not known and his message spread spontaneously. Now we already have an infrastructure and many or all of Dr. Paul's advisers can be Johnson's advisers, but I am not sure they would all be for Ventura.
Please don't include this RP
Please don't include this RP supporter as one of "most, if not all," Gary Johnson supporters. One semi irritating R4R speech does not make him another Ron Paul. I need to learn much more about him. Remember all the pro Palin posts last fall on DP? I won't be swayed without more proof that he can be Ron Paul's successor. At least I can stand to listen to Mark Sanford.
Frankly
Johnson came out with specific and bold issues at the R4R and he agrees with Paul on foreign policy, more consistent (and libertarian) than Barr! He did not irritate me at all with his speech. He held speeches at the Heritage Foundation,
Cato Institute, RLC etc. and also had a Meet the Press interview a few years ago. What did you find irritating about Johnson? He listed his accomplishments
so that we can be familiar with him and you could see the consistency and agreement with Paul. Frankly, I personally like his kindness and honesty, like Dr. Paul's. I'm not a fan of in your face rhetorics that centre about yourself like Ventura, although some RP supporters seemed to like Ventura more. Ventura or someone like him can get a certain strong following, but I am afraid there may also be limitations, he would not have access to many people, while those people would be open to Johnson.
I can see that Johnson has
I can see that Johnson has many supporters here. So this afternoon I listened to the R4R speech once again thinking that I may have misjudged him.
When I first heard Ron Paul speak at the debate where he spoke about blowback, I was so impressed that I got on the computer and learned everything I could about him. But when I heard Gary Johnson speak for the first time, I found him irritating. I never paid him any mind until all the recent DP pro Johnson posts these past few days.
You said you are not a fan of rhetorics that center around oneself. Well I thought Gary Johnson's R4R speech seemed to be mainly about himself or at least to me, he came across as pompous. I won't give up on him because of one speech. But I hope another successor, more Ron Paul like, comes along. Unfortunately, as we all know, there is only one Ron Paul.
Johnson didn't seem pompous
Johnson didn't seem pompous to me, but he did project bragging and insecurity, and he's just not a very good public speaker. Dr. Paul is hardly what I'd call a William Jennings Bryan or a Daniel Webster at the podium, but he can still win over crowds with his charm.
We need a candidate who either has speaking ability or has charm. He doesn't have to have both at the same time, but he should have one or the other.
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I'm not saying Ventura is or
I'm not saying Ventura is or is not the answer. I'm just suggesting that a celebrity (like Ventura) might have better possibilities.
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OK understand
I just happen to trust citizen-politicians (not professional politicians) more than celebrities, who tend to be actions, have name recognition but come up short in terms of knowledge, insight and wisdom. Also Johnson has achieved something and would inspire trust and experience, having executive experience as a successful governor for two terms.
Do I hear a "run Eastwood
Do I hear a "run Eastwood run" chant from the peanut gallery? ;)
In 2012? I don't think the
In 2012?
I don't think the American public will elect an 82-year old first-term President. That doesn't mean Eastwood couldn't run for Congress or the Senate.
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He is, or at least was,
He is, or at least was, fairly well known in 'liberty' circles back when he was governor, as well as in the much larger pro drug / medical MJ movement. As such, he could put CA into play for the GOP. I do believe we will have to let him run on a less radical platform than Dr. Paul's to have much chance, though, without stiffing him out of money bombs and such.
Like many of you, I feel he needs to brush up on his public speaking skills to have a chance at going toe to toe with The One. But, as the quintessential type A, if he decides to run, I'm sure he will go at it with a zeal like no other, and ruthlessly purge any perceived weaknesses he might have.
Thanks for the former Cato guy trying to convince him to make a run. We need guys like him to have an effect.
Ventura / Johnson
Ventura / Johnson ticket?
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On which party ticket?
Face it, Johnson is a Republican and Ventura and Independent. Venutra will NEVER run as a Republican and would have zero chance to get its nomination should he decide to join the GOP. Johnson has double the executive experience than Ventura as governor. Johnson can theoretically also run as an Indy or as a third party candidate, nut really what chance would he (or Ventura) have as third party???
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Maybe the madisonparty.org?
Gary (whom I love) has one big shortcoming.... Charisma. if he just had Jesse's charisma...
We need a massive
We need a massive prfessional ad campaign otherwise it is a waste of time. Grass roots is good but if we want enough sheeple on board at all they have to see him on the magic idiot box regularly or he doesn't exist to them or teh talking idiots will convince then "he can't win"
We need to get this guys name out there now and make it a household name before the election. Without those two things we are wasting our time. No one has ever heard of Johnson including me till recently.
Also what is his track record as Governor?
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Would he run Independent like Nader?
I can't see a libertarian gaining any traction in the GOP as a presidential candidate, and we still have to work out strategies concerning Third Parties.
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Johnson
is like Dr. Paul and Barry Goldwater involved with the Republican Liberty Caucus. The GOP always had a libertarian wins, in any case with Goldwater and Reagan, not that they were 100% successful in carrying the agenda out. How much traction has the LP had since 1972? Answer: not much and less than the libertarian Republicans. It is now with a weakened GOP perfect time to work within the GOP. The GOP needs new direction.
Not for President. The
Not for President. The 'weakened GOP' will NEVER nominate someone who proposes abolishing the IRS, abolishing the Federal Reserve, and ending our overseas military empire.
A watered-down libertarian who isn't sincere? Yes. That's why they are uniting behind Sarah Palin.
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I don't worry too much
about how much money Johnson has. He will probably have enough to start a campaign, but not enough to have a 50 state campaign, but who does have this money ex Romney? That is when supporters will support him. The campaign for liberty can organize moneybombs, but remember he also has some of his own do not base in NM. One person contributed 150 000 to his gov. campaign. He endorsed Steve Forbes in 2000 and I am sure Forbes would likely endorse him for president in 2012 and also contribute to him, perhaps via PAC's also, not that he will be "bought".
Also
Sarah Palin also admitted to using marjuana when it was legal in Alaska. She did not like it. Johnson used it for 6 years I think, when he was young. He admitted this before his election as governor, and got elected. He is very healthy now since years and says he does also not even drink any alcohol, only water (and tea/coffee).
Clinton, Obama, Palin... so
Clinton, Obama, Palin... so many people have used "drugs" and gone on to political careers only to decry their use. What does this tell us?
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Obama, Bush and Clinton also admitted it...so big whoop!
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