Today, Remember The World's Universal Soldiers
Remember the soldier does not set our foreign policy, our elected leaders do. Thanks to tajitj for the reminder.
Aimee Allen sang this song at the request of Dr. Paul at the Rally for the Republic. Dr. Paul once told me that he identifies so strongly with this song because, during the Vietnam War, he realized that he too was the Universal Soldier.
I wrote "Universal Soldier" in the basement of The Purple Onion coffee house in Toronto in the early sixties. It's about individual responsibility for war and how the old feudal thinking kills us all. Donovan had a hit with it in 1965.
UNIVERSAL SOLDIER | Buffy Sainte-Marie
© Caleb Music-ASCAP
He's five feet two and he's six feet four
He fights with missiles and with spears
He's all of 31 and he's only 17
He's been a soldier for a thousand years
He's a Catholic, a Hindu, an atheist, a Jain,
a Buddhist and a Baptist and a Jew
and he knows he shouldn't kill
and he knows he always will
kill you for me my friend and me for you
And he's fighting for Canada,
he's fighting for France,
he's fighting for the USA,
and he's fighting for the Russians
and he's fighting for Japan,
and he thinks we'll put an end to war this way
And he's fighting for Democracy
and fighting for the Reds
He says it's for the peace of all
He's the one who must decide
who's to live and who's to die
and he never sees the writing on the walls
But without him how would Hitler have
condemned him at Dachau
Without him Caesar would have stood alone
He's the one who gives his body
as a weapon to a war
and without him all this killing can't go on
He's the universal soldier and he
really is to blame
His orders come from far away no more
They come from him, and you, and me
and brothers can't you see
this is not the way we put an end to war.
The truth about Remembrance Day
As usual, Stefan nails it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Auax5rpJPI
'Humanity' covertly LOVES WAR!!! (Gives 'man' 'meaning')
My frank opinion: When it comes to any of the large big abstract concepts, whether it is WAR, or LOVE, or LIBERTY and HONOUR; then frankly; I think that quote that someone here has is pretty much TRUE:
Let's face it: Homer Lea (Valour of Ignorance) is RIGHT; briefly:
In the absence of
1: Voluntary Zero Population Growth by 'human beings'; and
2. A world of honesty and honour, where men and women (like in the Radical Honesty Community) sort out their problems with each other face to face, sometimes so brutally honestly, it would have the politically correct little fascists screaming HATE, HATE, CALL THE ADL, CALL THE SOPO... BLAH, BLAH.... but irrespective thereof, each person is COMMITTED to resolving their disagreements with each other, to making clear (not vague) agreements with each other;
we can hope and dream and pontificate and march in the streets, and hold memory services, and whatnot.... and it's all an exercise in making us feel like we are somehow doing something.... but if we really wanted to end wars; then we WOULD STOP DOING THIS BANDAID TO BRAINTUMOUR CRAP!!
And a little secret: I THINK MEN LOVE WAR; I THINK IF THEY WERE REALLY HONEST WITH THEMSELVES, A VERY BIG SIGNIFICANT (OK, LOTS OF IT IS BRAIWASHING) LOVE WAR, THEY LOVE LITTLE RIBBONS, AND THEY LOVE THE 'RECOGNITION' THEY GET.
I am NOT JUDGING IT; i am simply attempting to state a perceived reality...
What do others think?
JMCSwan
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Major General Butler has something to say about that...
http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/warisaracket.htm
It's not the little ribbon the little boy wants so much... it's the idea WE as his family back home allow him to think that he'd be more loved for it, though not [h]oly true.
Yet the Bastards of the Universe know this little foible of ours, and as General Butler tells us, the Bastards play it for all its worth.
Sincere Question: Why did 'God' give 'humans' 'brains'?
Yeah, Erin,
I love ol' Smedley particularly:
And what I think would be so very, very beneficial would be when more men and women would be willing to consider thinking and discussing the idea of the conflict between these two factors:
1. The alleged desire to procreate children, allegedly out of LOVE; only to send those children off to war, sniff glue on streets, DEMAND THEY GROW UP TO BE 'SUCCESSFUL' (ie 'good little fascist slaves).... and so on; AND PARDON ME, BUT THIS IS CALLED 'LOVE'?
2. That 'humanity' live on a FINITE PLANET. Any farmer knows you can only raise a certain number of cattle on a finite piece of land; and in my lingo he is either a prime beef farmer; or he is a sub-prime beef farmer. The former farmers have less cattle to 'cull' for the slaughterhouse; but the cow has had a free range living, no toxic concentraction camp food; and before being culled is humanely killed with a bullet to the head (not at a slaughterhouse). That is called sustainable farming; and the meet from such cattle is juice and melts in your mouth like butter. As for the latter; can anyone name me one, JUST ONE, NATION STATE 'LEADERS' THAT PRACTICE PRIME CATTLE FARMING OF THEIR CITIZENS? JUST ONE!!!
I'm not even saying they are incorrect; I am only interested in the conversation; but when people are petrified to even discuss the issue; then it appears once again; I am thinking IDEAS THAT ARE considered too 'dangerous' to be thought, or explored?
In that case; please explain: WHY EXACTLY DID 'GOD' GIVE 'HUMANS' A BRAIN?
WHAT EXACTLY IS THE PURPOSE OF HAVING A 'BRAIN' IF YOU DON'T USE IT?
How is having a brain, and not using it for reasoning in discussing and addressing issues of problem solving, and such consequences; similar to having a CONDOM and not using it for fornicating when overcome by lust, with women man has no intention of wanting to create a baby with, but too lazy to take off the condom wrapper and apply to penis; and the consequences of an UNWANTED BABY HANGING AROUND YOUR NECK?
Just a question...
JMCSwan
PS: Any 6th degree 'relation' to one of my favurite ToraBora CheyenneTowelHead Musketeer Generals? :-)
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Reading that first time through...
... makes me think of at least two items:
Your comments about industrial animal exploitation reminds me of this film called "Earthlings", (http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/earthlings.php). I'm not wholly convinced, as this documentary insists, that humanity is bound to a kind of failure of low-thinking or an inhumanity towards each other, based entirely upon our consumption of animal meats or use of hides, hooves, horns and bone. I wonder if we've simply lost touch with the spiritual concept of giving thanks (literally) to the living animal before/durring/after we end its animation and, consume it.
I really don't know if that would be "enough" to set the cosmic balance straight, and still "enjoy" a melt in your mouth steak, or the utility, durability and comfort of well crafted leather goods. Even when said like this, I still feel odd and unsure. But at least the film demonstrates, as many have witnessed elsewhere, our Industrialized Profit motive exploiting the animal kingdom has definitely blurred the line for us to see how we can treat each other in horrendous fashions. THAT... I can see.
The film suggests to me at minimum then, that re-connecting [individually] to the source of our animal products and benefits, such as farm/ranch husbandry (care and feeding), sheering wool, collecting eggs, chopping chicken heads and slaughtering beef... definitely needs to be decentralized and preformed much closer to home and witnessed first hand by those who "enjoy" the products. The extraordinary REDUCTION of our strain upon the environment by this alone, is absolutely mind bending. True, meat consumption would not disappear as I myself would still hunt some hasenpfeffer tail and/or larger game... but then I could hardly expect someone ELSE to dress it for me.
If the only way you could get meat was to bag it yourself, instead of selecting it from a rack of cellophaned packs... WE, most all in great swaths, might then recognize each other for our humanity much more than we do today.
As for love, lust, and baby-making... that's sounds like much more than just a question. I should only speak for myself. I've been with wonderful ladies I was certain I was in love with just as they insisted I was only in lust. Ugh! Others, insisting I must be in love, whereas I was certain it was just lust (if comparisons work here).
Still others who never broached the subject of either, perfectly competent and knowledgeable in the mechanics of baby-making, academically astute and motherly caring enough to raise a wonderful child, holding all the cards to decide for themselves whether to proceed... NOT being raped, treated lovingly with care (if true love really is real) and yet curiously non-comitial about having a man around anyway. Go figure. Is that love? Is that life? Is that the life of love, or love of life? You tell me.
Do I know you?
I'm laughing... I hope you are too. Besides... babies (even unwanted ones) only hang around your neck for a little while... then one day they're big enough to kick you in the shins, curse you and almost burn the house down before they go live with father who might just as soon kill'm for spite, if not show them how to unlock a world of treasure.
Ya never know with these things it seems.
p.s.: As for 'God giving out brains'... seems for some reason he had a curious disparity of gray matter to go around for all the body parts available. Maybe he has a sense of humor, his dark side so to speak.
At least I get a chuckle out of the idea, makes me laugh out loud ....
(vah-WATT BOOM!!! sizzle sizzle....)
(lightning strikes keyboard operator.)
This reminds me of
something I heard as a kid that stuck with me. "Thine is not to reason why, Thine is but to do or die." Can't remember where I heard it.
Prepare & Share the Message of Freedom through Positive-Peaceful-Activism.
Tennyson, Charge of the Light Brigade
http://www.nationalcenter.org/ChargeoftheLightBrigade.html
-LF
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"Let the good heart speak words of true peace, not inciting others to further war." -- B.I.S.
Thanks,
for clearing that up for me. I think he was one of my mom's favorite poets.
Prepare & Share the Message of Freedom through Positive-Peaceful-Activism.
Stresses self responsibility
That's a great song and even watching it on youtube gives an pretty good idea of the athmosphere in Minnesota.
To me it just stresses once again the idea of self responsibility in what I am doing. Be it fighting wars as a soldier or cutting jobs as a manager. Both might be justified. In the end there is personal responsibility and no one should back off saying, I had to because I was told to.
Ron Paul 2008 - Truth is simple
Ron Paul 2008 - Truth is simple
Buffy Saint Marie
This song is written by Buffy Sainte Marie, a native Indian. She still is active in protesting, and she made some awesome songs, covered by many famous artists. I really love what she did back in the days, and still love what she is doing.
Just Youtube her.
U.N.iversal Soldier
Pawnstorm
"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul
Dr. Paul spoke of The Universal Soldier in his speech that day.
It was a sad moment when he addressed this. The arena got very quiet as Dr. Paul explained the concept of the Universal Soldier.
He told the story of how in World War 1 the German and British soldiers ceased fighting one Christmas eve and actually exchanged gifts and celebrated together.
Then the big governments ordered them to get back to fighting and killing each other.
This is worth watching from The Rally on Sept 2nd 2008.
It's near the end of his great speech at the 1 hr:13 min mark on the link below.
http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library/includes/templates/lib...
"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul
Soldiers swear an oath...
to uphold and defend the Constitution. They violate that oath when they participate in unconstitutional wars. They also have both a moral and legal obligation to refuse to carry out illegal orders and to mutiny against tyranny.
'The Troops Don’t Support the Constitution'
Here's a great article on that exact subject by Jaccob G. Hornberger.
No training
As a former officer in the United States armed forces I look back on my career and realize that about the only time anyone ever spoke of the constitution was when someone spoke the words in the oath. It's pretty obvious now that it is deliberate.
You would think we would have had at least one class on the constitution and what it means. Of course it would be a lot harder to get us to go to war without the required constitutional requirements.
Send copies of the constitution to anyone you know in the U.S. military.
Several of my fellow soldiers
Reup'd (Re Enlisted) during this current deployment. Everyone has to get in formation as they say an oath. I've heard it several times but never really listened (mostly laughing on the inside that these soldiers want to continue being in this Army; I have no intentions of re enlisting) but the last time they did it I don't believe it's the same oath we took when we first joined. I don't believe it includes a mention of the Constitution. I'm going to have to ask my commander to repeat the oath to me so I can listen to it more carefully.
"...mankind are more disposed to suffer [...] than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. [...] It is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
"...mankind are more disposed to suffer [...] than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. [...] It is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
You got THAT right!
Pawnstorm
"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul
no utopias without liberty, no liberty without...soldiers
The problem with this line of thinking is that it fails to understand that, before this is all over, this movement will need soldiers of its own to win back our liberty Sadly evil people will perpetrate unspeakable things regardless of your hope for a utopia that needs no warriors. Yes, it’s true that had the “universal soldiers”, as you call them, refused to fight for Hitler then there would have been no holocaust or even a WWII. But you overlook the obvious that there will always be solders willing to fight for evil people for money or because they are duped or coerced. Sadly that is happening to our own federal soldiers today. But before you go stuffing any more daisy’s in the barrel of this patriots gun think about this: When they come to enforce this oppression on us if we don’t have universal soldiers of our own, educated in the constitution and the intent of our founders, then we will fall and all your hopes for utopia will be in vain as they take from you what you refuse to fight for.
RJ Harris
Universal Soldier (18 year veteran and still serving the Citizens of Oklahoma)
Ready to fight for our liberty when that time comes.
(If we win, utopians like you will have the opportunity to lament that my existence was needed at all to protect you, but at least you and those who don’t agree with you will have the freedom to do so. Sadly, I cannot say if we will win or not, or even if there will be enough of us to make a fight.)
Strength and Honor
RJ Harris
Constitutional Libertarian
www.harrisforoklahoma.com
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/RJ-Harris/128692249103
Right
and also don't forget the shake ups we have had with our military this year. They have saved us from nuclear attacks on Iran, etc. We probably owe a whole lot more to our soldiers than we know. There are the bad, the the duped, but there are the GOOD. Strong families who raise well adjusted, bonded, men are the strength of our military. Broken families raise psychopaths who are not bonded to humans and have no moral fiber.
I come from
a divided family. My mother and father divorced when I was 10. I haven't seen my mother in almost 10 years. Missed opportunities. And I resent my father most days. I am also an Agnostic. Though without religion, I have a very strong moral fiber. In fact, without religion, it allows me to keep an open mind in liberty. Because with LIBERTY, one must be willing to accept other peoples rights to their own selves without having a say in it based on your individual beliefs. I think that's why the GOP has strayed away so far from true conservatism.
Not everyone fits into cookie cutter philosophies.
"...mankind are more disposed to suffer [...] than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. [...] It is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
"...mankind are more disposed to suffer [...] than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. [...] It is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
Simplistic View
But what happens when that Universal Soldier does lay down his arm against an unjust war. We would open up ourselves to attack from our most bitter enemies Russia and China. If you disagree that they are our enemies, I would just ask you to wait 5-20 years and you will see how much they hate us when they are marching in on our soil after a weakened America can't fend off the attack.
A Universal Soldier fights to preserve not his country, but the people at home he cares about. If he lays down his arms, he will put them all at risk.
Do not blame to soldier. Blame the people at home that will not stand up to their government and hang these evil men up at the city square.
You are to blame, not the Universal Soldier, who just follows orders from the people.
Thank you.
Someone is finally pointing the finger where it belongs ... in our own faces.
If man has a certain dignity, and I believe he does, then it means he has certain principles. Civilizations (countries) come into belng when a large portion of the population shares basic principles. IF that civilization is good, it is worth protecting and definitely worth dying for. Good civilizations do not start wars, but they must often defend themselves against evil, aggressive "civilizations."
In the name of DIVERSITY, our civilization has almost been destroyed ... divorce, shacking up, condom dispensers, homosexual marriage, abortion, euthanasia, drugs, non-stop entertainment and sports-aholicism, schools that teach attitudes rather than reading, writing, history, math, radical teachers, slovenly lazy TV-poisoned students who glean to the radicals rather than knuckle down and become responsible students. As we have all been made keenly aware, politicians have easy pickins with this kind of citizen.
In the last 45 years, the US has become nothing more than a caricature of a "good" civilization. Truly, it is far more into the barbarian camp than into the civilized camp.
Can we turn it around, can our "civilization" be saved? Is it worth saving? These are the questions we need to think deeply about. If you answer yes, the turnaround starts with the face you see in the mirror. If we don't cultivate virtue, who will we send who is willing to die for our right to be immoral ignoramuses?
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I will never
put down my arms. But how can I protect my family and friends while I'm in Afghanistan? Everyday I hear of horrible predictions of our countries future, but what can I do about it? If something were to happen, I can do NOTHING to protect my family.
"...mankind are more disposed to suffer [...] than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. [...] It is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
"...mankind are more disposed to suffer [...] than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. [...] It is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
See
This is when the thinking has to come in. It isn't black or white. Fight or don't ever. We can't totally give up our thinking. Dr. Paul is not for a weak military. He is for a strong military. He does not say, "Don't ever fight." He says defend our borders and our people around the world, but come back home afterwards and don't nation build.
Nothing in the song or in Dr. Paul's agenda discredits what you have written. Of course, we have to be brave enough to face danger. And yes, you are right, the people have not faced the corruption. Partly because the corruption has only been revealed for a year or so and we are trying to figure out HOW. Go ahead, tell us HOW. It takes time to figure out how to strike something that is secret and hundreds of years old.
The Governments
The governments/elites of China, Russia, and the United States perceive each other as "enemies," but I honestly believe the people (excluding the psychos) of those regions would much prefer to live their daily lives in true freedom and peace.
I personally believe that violence is required for legitimate self-defense at times, but those occasions are actually quite rare. What we see today are wars of elite paranoia (and greed).
-LF
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"Let the good heart speak words of true peace, not inciting others to further war." -- B.I.S.
In studying
I have discovered that Russia/China are partners with us/England in the world take over. It is part of the game of the central societies behind the scenes to keep an enemy available in order to keep fear to use and keep wars to funnel money, and strip power. So they will seem like our worst enemy, but over them is the chess movers just enjoying the maneuvering.
Right, but also wrong
Yes, We are allied with China and Russia in a secret conspiracy called globalism. But what you don't know or don't perceive and what those in the conspiracy together don't know is that China and Russia are also allied in a secret conspiracy to take America by force after slowly weakening her. We are the jewel of the world and they want us, more than they want global government.
Fear
Is most definitely their favorite psychological tool, and a very effective one at that.
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"Let the good heart speak words of true peace, not inciting others to further war." -- B.I.S.
This song changed my whole outlook
I was fairly gung-ho back in 'Nam in '67.
This song got to me. I began to re-evaluate my PERSONAL role in that war and the immorality of war in general.
It's theme SEEMS outrageous. Those are OUR BOYS after all, defending OUR FREEDOMS!! (check out the snarky riff on this theme at the LRC blog).
But it's the "outside the acceptable box" nature of it that makes it so doggone effective.
Buffy was gifted with genius that night.
We all share responsibility when we go along with the death merchants.
Check out these other anti-war hits:
"Masters of War" - Dylan
"I ain't Marchin' Anymore" - Phil Ochs (classmate at Military school!!, along with Barry Goldwater Jr!)
Oh, and did ya ever notice that REAL vets, like me, NEVER get the day off, but those slimy parasites at Government, Inc. ALWAYS do.
Capn Mike
Abaco
Wow
Never thought about blaming it on the soldier really. Especially when they were drafted like Dr. Paul. It is the lies and deception that take our soldiers into unjust wars. If we would stay home where we belong and defend our borders, hit with precision if we are hit outside our borders and then come back home, then we would be honorable again. If a soldier leaves an unjust war, his life is ruined. Too many soldiers get by with criminal activities and it demoralizes the whole group, then things just continue to fall apart.