what I had to post at the mitt site, please cut the crap
This is what I had to post, please people show some civility, and some common decency, everyone is a potential RP convert until you antagonize them and galvanize them against you. Please start using your brains, and not being so damn childish. I didn't want to have to register at mitt's forum just to try to sweep up after your childish romps. Cut the crap...
>>For the love of god, to all Ron Paul trolls, please stop posting here, it's not cute, it's not funny. If you want to do something productive learn how to intelligently debate, do not spread your jackassery around the web with Ron's name attached to it. I am a massive Ron Paul supporter, how ever have respect for other people with other view points on politics, if you must post here, do so in a courteous manner, and use intelligent debate as your tool, not petulant childish slander/insults/skulduggery. Do not pretend to be a mitt supporter and write semi-sarcastic posts. All you are doing is tarnishing the name of Ron Paul, this does not help the situation.
To all mitt supporters, I deeply apologize for the actions of our mentally less well endowed members, they are easily excited, and not always the brightest. Some of their posting here is deeply disrespectful, I hope you can overlook the actions of a few, not every Ron Paul supporter is a tard, unfortunately the loudest out of us are. I would love to engage in intelligent debate with any of you on issues, but I respect that this is a forum for mitt supporters, and I will more then likely never post anywhere outside of this thread. If you wish to debate, feel free to send this profile a message. Otherwise I will leave you with this post. Thank you for your time, and again I am sorry you had to, and unfortunately will probably still have to put up with the actions of a few.
-George<<
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"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep (own) and bear (carry) arms is ,as a last resort ,to protect themselves against tyranny in government"
-Thomas Jefferson
Dear Anti-Dick Tuck
It might take them a while to read your apology. I can't believe the goofy comments and fake names are still up several days later.
Hmmmmm
No doubt, we could "self-invade" our own boards with Mitt supporters too and raise all kind of non-sense. However, we're not into that tactic, it's completely unproductive and not the American way :-)
America needs Ron Paul for President !
America needs Ron Paul for President !
...and I would purport
...that some of them are paid hacks to pretend they are RP supporters acting like fools to turn-off would-be supporters.
....you really think mitt or rudy are above that?
Nonintervention...
Our man is a noninterventionist, right?
Why don't we follow this path with regards to the other candidates?
Do we want to condone the invasion of the other candidates' websites, when we condemn the invasion of other countries? Perhaps it's a stretch, I know... but Ron Paul really does inspire us in this way, right?
We could, however, point out to the media, the efforts of the other candidates to emulate Ron Paul's successes... and perhaps we can enjoy the fact that it never will amount to what we are doing here!
All the best to each and every one of you...
John B.
John Bernard
Well internet Nazi it
Well internet Nazi it started out with one of their staffers posting
"I'm glad we gave ourselves a month to promote this and get everything ready for December 7th because I'm learning as I go here. Ron Paul's supporters have started another site at teaparty07.com and I would love to have someone go there and let me know how we can make our site more like that one as far as functionality goes. I also have no idea how to do the graphs or anything, so some help there along with ideas on how to tie Pearl Harbor into Mitt's campaign are all things I could use help with."
So some went there to help out,others went there for other reasons,dont assume you can appoligize for everyone,
And dont act like such a savior when you were one of the FIRST people to repley about their staffers statment ,posted in the middle of a bunch of posts of people talking about going their
I wonder if we got any converts from their website sending a bunch of people to our teaparty07.com website.
-geo
You were one of the Aholes egging it on till you wanted to be the good guy.
Search functions work,at least change names to hide your hipocarcy.
And dont forget that before word 1 was typed that site was full of posts calling ron paul a nut ,loon ,should be in the nut house.
Calling his supporters pot heads and drug addicts ,wellfare feinds,and uneducated.
Pick a negative statment and his staffers have posted it their about us and the Dr.
STAFFERS not grassroots.
Yeah we got the rigt to retort
If this is th WWW and any one could stumble across that garbage ,then bet your butt ,the next post will be me in defense of me ,because i am one of pauls supporters ,that they have labled with such negative terms.
You sir have no backbone
"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep (own) and bear (carry) arms is ,as a last resort ,to protect themselves against tyranny in government"
-Thomas Jefferson
I agree 100%
Nice reply Brent.
Unfortunately the DP has been overrun by people just like deamos, self appointed babysitters.
We don't need babysitters.
Telling people what to do is not going to garner you some sort of leadership position in this movement. Pretending to speak for us, will get you excommunicated. Antagonizing a confrontation, then posting an apology to the enemy should get you banned.
How people who claim to support Dr. Paul could still be confused about non-interventionism is a joke.
It works like this, attack no one preemptively, if attacked, respond in kind.
Simple really.
If some blog calls Dr. Paul or his supporters nuts or kooks, they get flamed.
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"Resistance need not be violent, but the civil disobedience that might be required involves confrontation with the state and invites possible imprisonment." - Ron Paul
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"Resistance need not be violent, but the civil disobedience that might be required involves confrontation with the state and invites possible imprisonment." - Ron Paul
Let Them Copy
Freedom breeds creativity, and creativity gives birth to greatness. Let them be the Monkeys to our Beatles. Let them be the Payless shoes to our Nike. We will continue to put out new revolutionary ideas, and by copying, these other campaigns are admitting that good things are coming from Ron Paul's Presidential bid. There is a spirit driving this campaign, and you can't copy that.
I agree with the author... we need to be civil
To get respect...be respectful...
This is only going to add to the determination of some of those who would do anything to see their candidate win. There's no need to antagonize Romney supporters on their own site. I agree the message we all care about is freedom...but freedom comes with responsibility...
"I hope our wisdom will grow with our power, and teach us that the less we use our power the greater it will be." - Thomas Jefferson (taken from "A ForeignPolicy of Freedom" by Ron Paul)
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I'm sorry if some of you who
I'm sorry if some of you who have been around for a while have seen me say this a few too many times but it seems to be appropriate pretty often these days:
WWRPD?
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Well internet Nazi it
Well internet Nazi it started out with one of their staffers posting
"I'm glad we gave ourselves a month to promote this and get everything ready for December 7th because I'm learning as I go here. Ron Paul's supporters have started another site at teaparty07.com and I would love to have someone go there and let me know how we can make our site more like that one as far as functionality goes. I also have no idea how to do the graphs or anything, so some help there along with ideas on how to tie Pearl Harbor into Mitt's campaign are all things I could use help with."
So some went there to help out,others went there for other reasons,dont assume you can appoligize for everyone,
And dont act like such a savior when you were one of the FIRST people to repley about their staffers statment ,posted in the middle of a bunch of posts of people talking about going their
I wonder if we got any converts from their website sending a bunch of people to our teaparty07.com website.
-geo
You were one of the Aholes egging it on till you wanted to be the good guy.
Search functions work,at least change names to hide your hipocarcy.
And dont forget that before word 1 was typed that site was full of posts calling ron paul a nut ,loon ,should be in the nut house.
Calling his supporters pot heads and drug addicts ,wellfare feinds,and uneducated.
Pick a negative statment and his staffers have posted it their about us and the Dr.
STAFFERS not grassroots.
Yeah we got the rigt to retort
If this is th WWW and any one could stumble across that garbage ,then bet your butt ,the next post will be me in defense of me ,because i am one of pauls supporters ,that they have labled with such negative terms.
You sir have no backbone
"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep (own) and bear (carry) arms is ,as a last resort ,to protect themselves against tyranny in government"
-Thomas Jefferson
don't fish in somebody elses pond
Hey guys! There are tons of people that don't even know who RP is---those are the prime people. Going after activists from other campaigns is not very effective. Odds aren't very high. Find people who haven't decided yet, That aren't very political because 'everybody is the same', and especially Seniors because they DO VOTE! Don't waste your time on other candidates' dedicated fans. After the first primaries, they might be looking for a VIABLE CANDIDATE! Lots of people only support the guy in the lead so let's get RP leading by ALL measures! Spend time where it matters---don't give the others more traffic!
I agree.
Does anyone know the main sites of the other candidates chat/support sites? Hillary, Rudy G, John M, etc. Just curious to see those sites too.
Name calling is not right, you are right, deamos.
good post; we need to not harass other candidates' folks
It's simple, really: WWRPD? He wins people over by engaging them on the merits (or lack thereof) of their ideas and actions, not by attacking them or trying to demean them personally. His optimism underlies everything he does; he doesn't attack people because he truly believes that what is right will eventually win out over what is wrong. Belief in that principle removes the desperation some folks seem to feel, which IMO is what drives them to post attacks against others.
Let's stay focused on positive developments and attack *problems*, not people.
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cmon guys ... stop posting
cmon guys ... stop posting crap with his name attached ... it does more harm than good
grow up
Come on guys, grow up. I know it's tempting to make fun, but like I tell my children, sometimes it's better to just think things in your head and not actually say them. Stop giving the Mitt site visitor traffic; stay on task! Use your energy for Ron.
If someone came here taunting us we would kick their a$$.
Actually, we do get other
Actually, we do get other people that come and post here and we set them straight with facts. What do these people have besides getting angry? We don't even get mad because we have facts...
Ron Paul is my hero :)
What do the rules say at the
What do the rules say at the forum?
Ron Paul is my hero :)
Huh?
Unlike you, I don't hang out at Romney forums. I've never been to one, in fact. Romney is what he is - a flip-flopping lib posing as a conservative.
I have no idea what some Ron Paul supporters have been posting on Mitt's forums. However, I do wonder just why you took it upon yourself to apologize on their behalf. I especially wonder why you "had" to apologize for them. Are you in some official capacity in the Ron Paul campaign that makes you the official apologizer for all trollish Paul supporters?
Even stranger is that you chose to come to this forum and attack all of us for whatever is going on in Mittland. Has this little sanctimonious temper tantrum of yours helped to assuage your guilt by association with people here who may or may not be trolling at Mitt's forums?
I'm not sure what magical fairy waved a wand and made you the conscience of all Ron Paul supporters, but that little moral high horse you're riding on doesn't come with my consent.
Back
He made a good point, that you attack him for it is sad. Everything we do has an effect, if people start showing up here just to post anti paul posts it would overload the server with garbage. We would spend more time asking the admins to be dumping post, making more work for him to keep this site positive, Thus the effect. Unless of course you care little for the this site or the people who have to spend countless hours to maintain it, so keep that in mind when you go to visit other sites. Semper-Fi
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote."
that is fine by me
It doesn't need to come with your consent, i went there because of posts here, when i read what some of us have written over there it saddened me that we would engage in jackassery, we are better then that, or atleast should be. my basic message is, juvinile antics do not help RP, and making people dislike us for our behavior rather then just a misunderstanding over our ideology solidifies their views of RP, these are people that could be converted. I have met very few people who when faced by intelligent debate over ron paul don't end up supporting him. I have converted many people from socialists to hard core right wing hawks to become ron paul supporters. To attack these people hardens them against us. We should do our best to make it exceptionally hard to hate us, leave them with only the feeling of envy, but not hate.
-george
give me a break, in fact, give all a break.
How about everyone involved in this foolish conversation, including me, get a life... There are more important things to do than flaming the message board of another candidate, and then some one else feeling as if they need to apologize for childish behavior. I think we have all spent a little too much time reading our own press. The first primaries will be a great indicator. We need to do as much as we possibly can to reach those that don't sit at home and watch the MSM religiously, YouTube, and these sites. Votes, in great numbers, are the only thing that matter. Making a Romney or a Rudy supporter jealous is fine and all, but how does that help us win?
"Make fun buddy..." - Ron Paul
Sorry, but they didnt exactly have kind words about Ron Paul...
Gee, its not like they were saying great kind words about Ron Paul over there... I saw him being called a nut, a fruitcake, crazy old man, etc...
and when we abuse their
and when we abuse their webpage and someone decides to cover it...everyone goes to the Mitt page, and sees all the comments by Ron Paul supporters and Mitt gets all the exposure
we have the freedom to do what we want, as long as we don't impose upon others
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Doesn't really matter what they say
does it? Do you think RP would say stuff like that?
again thats fine
respond with intelligence if you must respond, debate them, question why they think he is a nut, when they give a response, either find an appropriate video clip, or a good quote from ron paul, or if you possess the ability, argue it yourself with a candor that befits our exceptional candidate, ask your self, what would Ron do? and then behave like him. He handles attacks and hard questions with a grace we should all strive to attain.
-george
WWRD WHAT WOULD RON DO? If
WWRD
WHAT WOULD RON DO?
If everyone asks him/her self that question each and every time you even think about doing something ....(on Ron's behalf), most of the "childish trolls," will disappear.
Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice.
Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice.
WWRD
Freedom means freedom which should imply freedom to be irresponsible and childish. It also means the freedom to poke your nose into other peoples business, and the freedom to tell others to keep their opinions to themselves. It's all of these things and more that makes freedom a beautiful thing. But the price that you have to pay for this is that you can't put it in a box and tell it what it should be.
If you feel that you have to clean up the mess after other people, that is your choice. But remember that no one asked you to do it? In fact you should ask yourself why you are doing this? After all I'm sure that Dr Paul is quite capable of defending himself should the occasion arise where he could be accused that his followers are just a bunch of zealots.