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Move to the country-wait, that is where they want you-come back?

I thought we are basically resisting our government by moving to the country and getting off the grid by becoming independent and knocking human progress back 75 to 100 years. But after reading this:

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1694.cfm

about weather control and advanced weaponry that our sweet country now has with HAARP, ELF, GWEN, Tesla, I see that is what they are asking us to do. (An absolute must read if you haven't already-I figure I am the last one to read it here.)

I have always read that the Illuminati is driving us into the cities so they can keep us corralled and control us. Now this article says they are trying to drive us into the country away from the cities. But they also have just certain areas of the country that we can now buy because of the Wilding of America program.

So now as an urbanite, I think I am the one who is holding down the fort instead of the many who are fleeing to the country.

Can someone explain?



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I am an urbanite,

but moving to the country is a goal. I grew up in a small town and I am too the point now where I just can't stand being around a bunch of mindless drones. Call me callous, but it's hard to watch a nation destroy itself. I'd rather be out on my own and enjoy my freedom while I have it....

Human progress

We've become more predatory than sharks and more suicidal than lemmings over the past 75 - 100 years.
It's about time we came back to our senses.

"Tyrants fear nothing more than insubordination"

"It's just one big club... and WE ain't in it!"

You have any

articles that say they want us in the cities?

I couldn't care less

where "they" want me.
I think it's a matter of urgency that everyone liberates themselves by becoming as self-sufficient as possible.
What better place than a small farm in the country to do that?

What better place to learn how to cooperate and abide in nature rather than being at odds with it?
What better way to wean ourselves from the government and all of it's hypnotic devices and programs?

Progress is nothing more than an illusion which has caused more trouble than it's worth. We have fouled the air with automobile exhaust and factories, we've eliminated miles and miles of forest with concrete roadways and parking lots which is causing the planet to overheat, and we are constantly at odds with other nations over oil to make it all run.
In the long run, tradition is much more powerful than progress. We have lost our way by pursuing a tomorrow that never comes and a future that does not exist.
It's time to come back to our senses.

"Tyrants fear nothing more than insubordination"

"It's just one big club... and WE ain't in it!"

woooah...

"getting off the grid by becoming independent and knocking human progress back 75 to 100 years"....what?

Depends on what you consider "human progress" I suppose....I have had both lives and I most definitely prefer my "less human progress is more" approach. Remember that not all progress is positive.

I'd say that man in general has become a "progressive cancer"...not exactly a great thing.

Yeah,

I had this conversation with my West Pointer ('56)...McCain votin'...Fed Defending father who believes that there isn't enough Gold and Silver in the world to "fund" the "life-style" progress of the last 100 years.

Never mind the fact that productivity increases would have dropped prices and created ever decreasing increments of the existing pie of money to be spread around...to say nothing of the insurance against mal-investment and the resulting business cycles. His view is that fiat money and "acceptable" inflation is why we are innovative. He gives gives no seeming validity to human spirit and ingenuity.

I guess he thinks that anything "new" is better...dunno what to say about such thought. But then again, he really likes watching Fox news on his cable TV...

Funny, I used to revere his opinions...now I just sadly shake my head. Amazing what years and experience can do to the memes of childhood

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Human progress is overrated in many ways

I don't want to go stone age, but it seems these guys have it better in a lot of ways. start watching at 5:25 it always makes me smile to see how "good" we have it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66pTPWg_wUw

Thank you Dr. Paul for making me act on what I already knew was right.

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This is in no way speaking against country living!! :)

Seems I have struck a chord.

This is all about just what people in general SAY about why we should move to the country. I think people are going to be safer in the country.

In the interest of making things understandable, clear, honest, truthful, sorted out, etc., I am just trying to clear up a minor point. A very minor point. Has nothing to do with PHYSICALITY. No. It has everything to do with INFORMATION. I am just clearing up a misconception, unless someone can show some data about NWO pushing us into the cities. No one has, so I think it might not exist. They are pushing into the country a smaller population to get the industrialization back to what is healthier for the earth-their earth. They are socialists and socialists are allllll about environmentalism.

Proof....

If we agree that population movements are orchestrated by the NWO, then how far to we have to look to find "proof". If your asking for an article to illustrate that person X made a decision...good luck. If you want to look not that far back in the past you'll see that at one time 90% of Americans lived in rural areas....and now 90% live like rats in a cage. I'll take my chances in the country with my family, my wonderful fresh well water, my livestock, my gardens, my guns, and my freedom.

If it takes "proof" to see these things, your barking up a non existent tree.

Not a negative chord. I'm

Not a negative chord.

I'm just a big proponent of preparedness, which in my opinion includes country living as a sort of prerequisite.

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I agree with that

and it should be some comfort to you and others who are in the country that you have carved out a nitch that is in agreement with the powers that be. They agree with you and because you have been that smart, they will let you live! :) That is a good thing.

My title makes it look like I am saying "don't go to the country." But I had a normal title and no one would enter. So I had to controversy the title to get a response. But it seems that most people don't look past my title.

I'm saying I don't think

I'm saying I don't think they have an agenda on where to herd people. Aside from out of their protected land masses.

What you've heard survivalists say was pure conjecture. On the other hand, I am not sure your quoted reference is definitive, either.

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I too am not saying it is

I am asking for other quoted references. That's all. Just asking the multitudes of people here who have said NWO wants us in the cities to show where they got that opinion. That's it. That's all. Nothing more. Nothing less. So far, no one has done it.

Dr. Michael Coffman on News with Views

is an expert on the U.N. treaties and the re-wilding of America. He played a key role in stopping the ratification of the Convention on Biological Diversity (Biodiversity Treaty) in the U.S. Senate one hour before the ratification vote by anticipating and exposing the unbelievable agenda behind the treaty.
A link to one of his articles on U.N. Agenda 21, separating the people from their water. http://www.newswithviews.com/Coffman/mike6.htm

The rewilding does NOT mean that they want you in the cities

It means they are land grabbing. Only 1/3 of the population is desireable to them. But they want those people off of industrialization because they are environmentalists. So this information really is interesting, but has nothing to do with what I am talking about. I mentioned the rewilding in a post lower down. The rewilding is also explained in the original post article. Did you read it?

I do understand what the scenario is, and I disagree

with one thing you say. I know from experience that they are using the environment as an excuse to remove people and domestic animals from the land (and I do agree it is a land grab) but this doesn't mean they are environmentalists.
They are EVIL people, most concerned with controlling others. a land grab AND a power grab! They don't care who they hurt or what they hurt, if it is a means to accomplish what they want. They want to control the world, and manipulate us as if we were plastic toy figures.

No I agree with you

THEY consider themselves environmentalists aka Al Gore. Gore is one of them. They trump up this stuff to control us. In another of my posts I said that also. They are about power and if you think I was saying they are not evil, then I am really, really miscommunicating.

I am just trying to keep this simple and not go deep. I am just looking for articles, or books that say NWO wants us in the city because that is what has always been said. Then my source above states that they want the few people they will allow to live in the country. That's it. Just looking for articles, books, manifesto, whatever.

Honestly, I don't have the

Honestly, I don't have the slightest clue why "they" would want us in the countryside. The countryside is where all the life is--the food, the animals, the fresh eggs, the grass, the possibility of water that doesn't come from a municipal pump.

The city is where the dependency is, the claustrophobia, the gangs and violent crime, the policemen on every streetcorner, the tons of concrete where grass ought to growing. The neighborhood associations that control the civilized suburbs.

Even with huge percentages of land set aside as UN biospheres and "protected wilderness", there would be a lot of wide open spaces in the countryside.

Idaho and Alaska are examples of managed wilderness--each state is mostly government land. I'd rather be there than the city.

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The reason

is that they think civilization is hurting their earth. They think the earth is overpopulated and we they want to flatten the industrialization.

So actaully, they have a good point and what they want to do sounds pretty good as all bad has a strain of good running through it. It isn't freedom but yes, it will be more gentle on mother earth. Supposedly the plan is to hit the big cities, especially the ones on the coasts. They don't want us on the coasts.

I have no problem with people going to the country-I think it is fantastic. Great life there. But I do have a problem with people falsely saying the NWO wants you in the cities so they can do horrible things to you. They may do horrible things to you, but it is to run you into the country. They want us off the conveniences.

So going to the country before one is run into the country might be a very smart idea and certainly has its advantages.

I am addicted to the truth. This whole two year education has been full of dichotomies. Many things don't make sense and this was one of them.

I feel and understand your passion for the country. I enjoyed it when I lived it. But I could give you just as glowing a list for where I live now. To each his own. However, I may be in the country again someday. I hope not.

But still no one has brought forward any information contradicting the article in the original post. People have said, "They want you in the cities and are driving you off the land. Hurry, hurry find your country piece of land." Actually, they want you in the country. But it is to your advantage to be in the country anyway, so all is good. People can be in danger in big cities especially. Especially coastal cities. Because they want you in the country.

I don't think they have an

I don't think they have an agenda for relocation of people, except for off their "protected zones".

I would worry, though, about coastal cities (example: New Orleans) if I was suspicious of misuse of HAARP or other futuristic weapons that affect weather and natural elements. Most of the population of the earth is concentrated in coastal areas, and they are vulnerable to tidal waves and killer storms.

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Yep, I agree

But they do have an agenda. It is to naturalize civilization again and decrease our industrialization because they think it hurts the earth and we well know it does. But it does because corporations abuse the earth by dumping into our waters, polluting our air, etc, chemtrailing us, spraying pesticides. Actually they are doing it more than the population by far. They blame the problems on the population and it is actually the NWO that is causing the problems.

I don't care WHERE "they" want me

I'm so sick of living in Los Angeles,
I'm moving to the mountains of Tehachapi soon.
Going to be setting up wind generators,solar,
and grow all the veggies I can. FTW!
I'm so happy,I feel like a lil' boy on
Christmas eve...wish me luck.=-)

Been there, done that

I'm glad you are getting your chance. Everyone does benefit from the great outdoors. Hope your new home is not in a sweep area. Hopefully those are pretty well designated by now.

Yeah,I didn't take your post

as a negetive post to country "style" living.
Everyone has to make a choice...and maybe take a stand (somewhere) at some point.
Truth be told I will still be within a 3 hour drive to Los Angeles and 1 hr. to Bakersfield,but on top of a mountain above the town of Tehachapi.

Actually

The move to the country is simply to get out of high population centers if a breakdown in the food chain comes about.

Have you looked at the Baltic Dry Ships Index?

http://www.investmenttools.com/futures/bdi_baltic_dry_index.htm

This is a measure of the cost of overseas shipping. Please note the chart! This means that ships are now offering themselves at cost to anyone who can pay! Credit has completely seized up and no one can ship their goods. The ships need cash. The freakin' thing has ground to a halt!

Now if bananas can't be shipped because no one can get credit...or wheat...or corn...well...what then? have you read the labels on your food lately? Where does it originate?

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now take that to the farmers

now take that to the farmers who can't get credit to buy seeds, and fertilizer to plant in the spring! next fall for food should be interesting!

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Well ok

this is manipulation and it works to drive people out to grow their own food again. Which is a great thing as long as we can get seeds that are not adjusted and as long as we really want to go to the country. (Which I don't.) So this post indicates that this article is probably right.

But can someone please produce an article that states that the NWO agenda was to keep us in the cities as I have read here and other places for months now???

The people who are moving to the country are accommodating the NWO and I, by staying in the city, am not. I've been thinking I really should be thinking about moving out, even though I don't want to do so, because being in the city is not going to be a good thing soon. Not necessarily true.

If the NWO gets draconian...

it won't matter what you do or where you go as any sweeping activities will ultimately get to you as well. What will matter most is if our son's and daughters, the ones holding the NWO's weapons, will be able to overcome the military brainwashing and realize that it is their families that they are abusing, and their constitution they are destroying, thereby bringing about a shift in the aim of their muzzles back in the direction of those who sent them.

In the interim, rural living allows one to have a better chance to fend for themselves and escape the wrath and fearful machinations of a starving citizenry. Depending on where you are, it also allows for the ability to skedaddle into the wilds should roundups be taking place.

The problem you have is that you want to have THE right answer and unfortunately, asking those here isn't going to provide it for you. Look within. If your intuition is speaking to you, especially about the inadequacy of your present situation in light of what appears to be coming, you should probably listen...especially if what you are "hearing" from inside flies in the face of "what you'd rather do".

**“The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them.” ~ Mark Twain **

"...there is no doubt that it (socialism) could not possibly have affected us so widely and so deeply as it has, had it not been heavily financed". - B. Carroll Reece

Thanks for your thoughts and thanks for posting

My request and question was simply to the people who have always said that the NWO wants us corralled into the cities. I was asking for them to show me something that said that was the case because the site I posted above says that they want you in the country. It has been indicated that the NWO wants you "on the grid" so that they can control you. But the information in this original post says that the NWO agenda is to eliminate our industrialized society.

People think they are putting up the good fight against the NWO by moving to the country and becoming self sufficient. No, that is what they intend to make us all do, especially if we live on the coast. I personally love country living, but not now for me. I don't want to drive forever to get anywhere I am trying to go when gasoline prices will go out of sight. I don't want to plant and till a garden, I'm perfectly happy buying in a store. NWO may drive me into the country. But I am not going to dash out and accommodate them when it is not even what I want to do in the first place. Some people can, great, it is healthier for you. But don't say you are doing it because NWO is trying to keep us in the city. Not so.