Obama skips his grandmother's funeral. wtf?
Submitted by MickeyMouse on Sun, 11/16/2008 - 05:08
this alone speaks volumes about the character and morals of this ungrateful bastard
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081112/ap_on_el_pr/obama_grandm...
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Hawai'i court blocks release of Barack Obama's birth certificate
Friday, November 21, 2008
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I'm sure she didn't mind.
I'm sure she didn't mind.
Grandmother's Funeral
Out of proper respect, the grandson, his wife and their two daughters should have attended her funeral! Unfortunately for the American people, President-elect Obama and his wife likely gave a glance as to what America can expect from the adult Obamas during the next few years. By not attending the funeral, Mr. and Mrs. Obama spoke loudly to me their true lack of class. I only hope for the sake of our great country this couple will bring with them the proper demeanor and respect required of them having apparently been given the great honor for a few short years to call America's White House their home!
He's busy. Shopping for a
He's busy. Shopping for a white house dog takes time.
nah, hes probably tearing
nah, hes probably tearing out the bowling alley to put in the basketball court and dj booth.
"We must re-take the Republican Party"-Ron Paul. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlqXq8YxQFQ
There hasn't been a funeral.
It’s been 3 weeks since the Obama campaign announced that his grandmother passed away on Sunday, Nov 2nd. There has been no other news about this since then. A check of the Hawaiian newspapers comes up with articles about the report made by the Obama campaign, but nothing else. It is important to note that the information came from the Obama campaign and to date it has not been independently verified by anyone.
There is no obituary on Madelyn Dunham in any Hawaiian newspapers. Obituaries are standard practice in all major newspaper throughout the US . This is very unusual, especially noting the importance of Dunham in Obama’s life and his visit to Hawaii in late October because of her illness. You would think there would at least be an obituary in The Honolulu Adviser, or other Hawaiian newspaper.
The Honolulu Adviser wrote in their Nov 3rd article… “The Honolulu medical examiner's office said it did not handle the case, suggesting that Dunham's death was an "attended death" monitored by a physician” (http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081103/BREAKING0...). Normally when someone passes away there is a line that says…. (name) was pronounced dead at (time) on (date) by (physician). This is true even (or especially) if it is an “attended death”. There is no such statement by any physician in any report on Dunham’s death.
A search of the Hawaii Department of Health Vital Records – Hawaii Death Records (http://death-records.net/hawaii/death-records.htm) returns the result… “There are no matches for: Madelyn Dunham”. I ran this report today.
Maybe I’m being a bit too skeptical, but none of this adds up.
waupee you just woke the conspiracy theory in me.
I didnt want to say it because it sounded absurd. But me thinks Obama & his step sister conspired to kill their grandma.
She probably didnt agree to lie about his birth place. not proven but I wont be surprised if it turns out to be the case
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They
just sent her to a place where she can't be reached again by anyone.
Do you think she may be
Do you think she may be smoking a houka with osama bin laden in davy jones locker?
"We must re-take the Republican Party"-Ron Paul. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlqXq8YxQFQ
He went to see her before she died, when it made a difference
and got crap for it by the Obama haters. Now when she is dead and it doesn't matter, he gets crap for deciding he has important stuff to do. I'm sure hating people is fun and makes you feel revolutionary, but why don't you save it for those times when it is warranted. No doubt the government, and Obama, will give us plenty of reason for legitimate gripes.
Free and Brave
or Cradle to Grave
You can't have both
Free and Brave
or Cradle to Grave
You can't have both
Hate
It has nothing to do with hate to want to know the truth. YOU may hate someone holding you, or something you value, responsible. It is YOUR hate, not the other person's.
I don't hate the man, I just don't trust him
Nothing about Obama easy to find out. Anything you are able to find out about him is what was found before that particular record was lost, misplaced, or sealed by his legal team. Absolutely no information on his grandmother's death (no obituary in any Hawaiian newspaper, no death certificate in Hawaii vital record search, etc.) is just a little bit off. Not saying that she didn't pass away (my sympathy to the family), but there just doesn't seem to be any information available to very it.
There's a lot of debate whether Obama was wrong
not to attend the funeral of his last remaining "parent". I think it was despicable, and I'm entitled to that opinion. It's interesting how many people weigh in on this by criticizing those who don't approve of their great leader. I wonder if they'd see it differently if this were Bush or McCain. Defending the indefensible is being raised to an art form by Obamaniacs.
Americans go to granma's funeral, period.
If for no other reason than to seem like a normal American family, the Obamas should be at grandma's funeral. There is something very wrong with them.
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Yes
I completely agree. What a jerk. But most of us already knew that. It doesn't surprise me.
He's insulting his grandmother to send a message
to his Obama Youth Brigade. The message is that old-fashioned values are irrelevant and old people with their old morals should be treated with contempt. Hitler did the same thing. His Jungen Volk were trained to show disdain for older people, who did not properly appreciate the new world leader.
I have studied many philosophers and many cats. The wisdom of cats is infinitely superior.--Hippolyte Taine
Ya
she threw him under the bus
What do you mean?
She didn't say he was Kenyan?? Did she? It is the other grandma that said she was at his birth.
A Funeral is for the Grieving..
I doubt the spirit of Granny really cares who attends the planting of her shell.
Isn't it better to Honor while they are with us. I believe Obama did that.
And will continue to honor them to future generations by passing down the stories and legacy.
Eitherway.. It is a Red Herring as are all things Obama. How does that advance the Campaign for Liberty?
We have a "Window of Opportunity"...
Focused Disciplined Continual Rational Action is what is needed.
What is the Goal?
**Spread the Flame of Liberty and light the hearts of the sleepwalking, with backup organization (Campaign for Liberty) to get people who agree with the Ron Paul Liberty Message elected and appointed in every nook and cranny of the government.
What Infrastructure and Tools do we have at our disposal.
** Ron Paul ~ Obviously the pure message of liberty, personal responsibility, and the personal authority over ones body, property, and life decisions.
*** Republican Party estabishment. Many of you are delegates and on the rolls of the Republican party. Now is the time to get in and be active.. or early next year. In this way only can the Rino's be rendered as politically impotent and the many good decieved people in the Republican party will wake up. Or at lest some of them will.
It could be a big media event if planned and at the right time.
There are a lot of people who would like to go to a tar and feathering party who voted for Obama and who voted for McCain.
"so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in the message (2 Corinthians 11:3 )
The Simple Pure Message of Our Founders.
We all agree people are floridated mindless sheeple drones.
This is why a very simple message , repeated over and over again really works. 9/11 , Obama citizenship , ect are red herrings.
Lets organize a Tar and Feather Party for Real. Like the boston tea party, their will be tarred and feathered dummies of all the bailout traitors and have some bands and brew, spread the awarness we aren't far from waking up the 100th monkey. Then the blinders come off. We can still win this thing and put America back on track.
One Voice, One Vision, One Love ~ Liberty.
Good Thoughts, Good Words , Good Deeds.
That is the Ron Paul rEVOLution Creed.
One Louv. ;-)..
I't a matter of respect
PERIOD.
He's just another narcissist. His like-minded friends don't care either.
She may have been one more person
who knew where he was *really* born.
New Hampshire and Ecuador
This is so easily explained.
He has been named renegade. According to an old reader's digest Thesaurus: renegade (n) "He was a renegade when he switched political parties: traitor, deserter, slacker, betrayer, turncoat; recreant, apostate, heretic, forsaker; rebel, insurgent, quisling, treasonist, mutineer; backslider, run-away, fugitive, outlaw." Word origin: "A renegade is a traitor who has denied his country, faith, etc; and to renege is to deny or renounce a promise."........Okay folks, here is the question: Who named him renegade?
The Secret Service
is who gave him the name is what I have read. Another definition of "renegade" to add to yours "a Knight without allegiance". Ummm interesting name they picked out for him.
Thank you ! Capt. Dave ,you made my day, ..
Now I'm waiting with baited breath for the answer!
Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips
But that man should play the tyrant over God, and find Him a better man than himself, is astonishing drama indeed!~~D. Sayers
There is no difference between an authoritarian government from the right or the left...F. A.Schaeffer
He is scheduled to go back next month...
to honor his grandmother according to the article, but I agree, you would think he could take a few days and fly out there to "honor" her at the funeral.
I don't know what could possibly be so urgent that he couldn't do this for his public image at least. Anyone know what he did Friday that was so important? I know he did his first weekly speech on youtube recently.
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I visited my grandmother in
I visited my grandmother in December 2006. Two weeks after my visit she died. Now here's the back story. I in fact went to see her because I had a feeling that she wouldn't make it through the year (don't ask it was rather freaky how it hit me one night). Anywho, while I was there I had a great visit with her and more or less said my goodbyes without saying goodbye. Being on a limited budget, I chose not to fly back for I had already done what I had needed to do. Somehow, I figure that both she and I were at peace.
Puppets come and puppets go but the world's stage is getting cluttered.
I don't think Obama
was on a limited budget...
did your grandmother raise you?.
were you in the public eye? and your grandmother of a different "race"?
Maybe not the best comparison
Well it's obvious that his
Well it's obvious that his resources weren't lacking so money wasn't an issue.
And yes my grandmother had a hand in my upbringing. I think race is not even an issue.
Maybe you missed my point. No one should be second guessing his reasons for not going to the funeral. Some people simply don't like funerals. Maybe he, as I had already made his peace with her.
I think this thread is being hypercritical by raising the questions.
Puppets come and puppets go but the world's stage is getting cluttered.
Your claimed reasoning
for not attending your grandmother's funeral was a lack of funds for travel...that's understandable. However, and I repeat, "Obama did not have a financial factor." So there is no comparison with your situation - period. (Unless there were "other reasons" you did not attend your grandmother's funeral which you chose not to share.)
He attended his pastor's funeral so I doubt that he has some adversity to "funerals".
Funerals are not for "making peace"...(nor an enjoyed social occasion)They are for respect to the dead and to support the remaining family members. You can't make peace with a dead person.
You can make peace with yourself...but not them.
And if you think that "race" is not an issue...you need to get your head out of the sand. Whether it is "right or wrong" or biased, etc. may be a valid point.....but denying it exists or has impact is naive.
Hey bud calm down a tad.
Hey bud calm down a tad. It's a little disconcerting that you have to say, "however and I repeat", as if this is really world shattering shit here. It's not.
Perhaps you should read what people write and maybe quit trying to be so witty with your answers. I did state the other reasons. As stated, I had made my peace with her before hand and therefore I didn't need to attend.
As well, your point about funerals being only for "respect for the dead" and not for "making peace", is just an opinion. Respect for someone can be shown in many ways. These are personal decisions that truly don't require other people's validation.
Puppets come and puppets go but the world's stage is getting cluttered.